SoCal Deek

Ha! Hell must’ve frozen over. I cannot recall ONE SINGLE TIME where I’ve been accused of backing the Beane regime. Not once. 😉 (So this might just be our year after all. I don’t think stranger things have ever happened.)

With all due respect, I think you’re looking at this in a one metric vacuum. They have WR/TEs under contract. Beane obviously believes he’s building a receiving corps. All of guys I’ve listed were drafted AFTER Josh became the starter. Do other teams have more talent?…obviously! But it seems like the nit picking here is simply over drafting a guy this past spring. Beane chose to go get Palmer instead. I guess we’re all gonna find out together.

It isn’t. But you have to admit that the Bills have definitely NOT ignored offensive weapons in the Draft. Sure. We’d love to have more. Every team would. But it’s not been ignored.

The Bills are no longer in a drought. They’ve been the AFC Championship twice! They must be doing something right. It’s just unfortunate that they ended up in the same conference with a team that’s been to the championship game SEVEN years in a row. Nobody is a bigger critic of the McD era than me. But I don’t see anything having changed if they had another WR on the team. It still just comes down to players and coaches making the critical decisions/plays at crunch time.

Creating a story? No…I’m simply stating the fact that the Bills starting offensive weapons roster is in reality made up of players they drafted in high rounds, and many they’ve chosen to already or about to extend this coming year. Coleman was essentially a First. Kincaid was a First. Cook was yet another high pick. So was Knox…a Third if I recall. Shakir is/was the lone pleasant surprise. So I guess the squabble is over whether they should’ve taken a WR in the First this year? Okay…I guess. But Who’s going to play cornerback and guard the superstars on the OTHER teams?

All of that is true (and I’m generally a HUGE critic) but you really want to keep recycling these guys at the expense of other starting positions? And using your examples Beane has to wait until the crucial drop in the playoff game to find out every year. The Bills extended Shakir and Knox obviously thinking they’re good enough to keep. And there’s a gazillion page thread on extending Cook, on the premise that he’s also good enough to extend. Neither Coleman nor Kincaid are even out of their rookie deals! The Bills roster is chock full of drafted offensive weapons.

I agree. I’ve been to many of the current indoor NFL stadiums but there’s something about attending games there never seems quite ‘real’ to me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah….but can you still sing the fight song? 😉

He signed a football for me mid-year of his famous 1973 record setting season. The signature is pretty faded now, over 50 years later, but it’s still there if you look close.

I don’t know why this is so complicated for people. The current starting roster of offensive firepower includes Kincaid, Knox, Shakir, Coleman, Cook and Allen. That means they’ve acquired ALL but one WR via the draft! Only the WR2 position is via free agency. Of those listed above ALL of them were drafted AFTER they got Allen. You cannot compare it to other teams. Those teams have different rosters and different needs. I’m not sure what you’all want them to do? They just drafted Coleman last year for heaven’s sake! It doesn’t seem all that big of an egregious oversight to have ONE of the WR/TE/RB starting weapons come from free agency.

He's drafted two starting Tight Ends and a starting WR. I’m not sure I’d call that ignoring it.

We agree there….but the GM has to keep an eye on the entire starting 22. I’d put it to you that the two biggest mistakes in the Josh Allen era were on the defensive side: Von Miller, and Elam. Beane is still trying to fix both of them. It happens.

It doesn’t work that way. You have to look at the players they have on the roster. Not everyone is acquired via the draft.

Gunner, there are only so many first round draft picks you can take over the span of Josh’s still relatively short career. Believe me, I’m often the first one to be critical of McBeane’s strategy but just looking at the 22 starting positions (21 if you remove QB) on BOTH sides of the ball they simply have to spread it around. IMHO, the bigger problem was the total miss on Elam, not the lack of another WR. Now…they really have to hope that Coleman pans out.

I know what you’re trying to get at here, but when I see the list at the bottom of your post that means they’ve drafted a starting RB, 2 starting TEs, a starting OT, a starting OG, and a starting WR. Since QB is off the board, that list is pretty much their entire starting offense. No?

I actually think this is a great topic. If they do go WR it’ll mean they’ll have taken 2 WRs and a TE in three of the last four drafts. That’s probably not a good thing. So, I’m hoping it doesn’t come down to that.

Comfortable? The on field challenges with wind at the existing stadium are about game strategy and playability. They’re not about players comfort.

I know virtually nothing about what’s been happening in Camp. Is there something that’s made you ‘still’ skeptical?

I actually think the wind thing is more about the quality of play than it is about fan comfort. I remember so many games in the current stadium where wind had a significant impact on game strategy and it didn’t always help the Bills. The fact that the new stadium is completely encircled with a consistent height grandstand and cantilevered roof (coupled with a more favorable orientation) should greatly cut down on those type of games. Far more than any metal panels they erect on the exterior.

I’m guessing they did. My point was that these aren’t some magic panels or new technology…at least now that I’ve seen them being installed, they don’t appear to be. As I often say during construction: “wait until it’s finished as there may be more to it”.

Actually, we regularly use perforated panels to control /diffuse sunlight and heat gain. I’ve not seen them used to diffuse wind, but then again, why not?

Great photo. They’re making major progress on the surrounding sitework (pavement, curbs, gutters, and planters) while the weather is good. As regards the ‘wind confusion’ panels, from what I’ve seen these are nothing more than perforated metal panels; which have been a popular architectural product material/aesthetic for a few years now. At the Bills new stadium I think they’re just referring to them as a wind confusion treatment because it sounds ‘cool’. They primarily line the outside of the concourse areas beneath the stands. But again…it sure sounds cool.

Virgil, isn’t that the price spread over 20 years? So that’s $50 per year, or $5 per home game. By 2045 that’ll equate to more like $2 per game. How much lower would you expect them to be?

Best video I’ve seen is a new in depth tour done by local television WIVB. It’s a full 30 minutes long and goes over the entire stadium construction progress, amenities, etc from top to bottom. It answers everyone’s questions. It was interesting to learn that they’ll be laying sod in about 90 days. Very well done! I’m sure someone can post a link.

Ralph is cheap!