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Kelvin seems like a run the route and thats it kinda guy. But what happens when Allen is scrambling around looking to make a throw? I was just thinking how good of a fit Deonte Thompson would have been to help Allen. Shame hes not with us.

I didnt believe in EJ Manuel at all. His tape was pretty bad and he didnt improve at all. Josh Allens video breakdowns are much more impressive and Allen is a better runner. I laughed when people said EJ could make all the throws. Allen can really make all of the throws. I think the kid has a shot to make it....but thats up to him and his adjustment to the NFL.

What I dont understand is why havent people already seen these videos pre draft.

Woods was prolly the best one. He never got a chance to shine with the lack of QB presence around here.

Thats fair to say when these guys are gone Goff has a shot to get into tier 1. Goff is still young. Id like to see him take that leap. I thought he was a better passer coming out of college than Wentz. Hes not there yet. He was not the focal point of his offense last year. It was Todd Gurley. Goff was ok in the playoff loss. Youd like to see more from him, but it was his first time and you obviously give him a pass for it. Now there are expectations. This will be an important year for Goff.

Qbs I will take this season over Goff Brady Rodgers Big Ben Brees Wentz Wilson Ryan Stafford Luck Rivers Manning These without a doubt. The rest below I think are where Goff could make a case for Newton Mariota Winston Watson A Smith Carr Cousins Goff So at bessst....he could be 12. Id take Mariota, Cousins and Newton over him. So that puts him pretty much at 15-16. Thats middle of the pack to me. Im not saying hes bad. I think he had a decent season and he could have a better one this year. Lets not act like hes some of elite QB. Thats what im saying.

Good point. Glad to see you saw some football this year. Brees didnt have to be the QB hes been the last 10 years. Hes very fortunate to have a rushing attack and alvin kamara. Like I said there is nothing wrong with throwing to the RB. But thats not what makes you a top tier QB. Goff is not a Tier 1 or 2 QB. Number 1 in attempts. Tom Brady. Number 18 in attempts. Jared Goff.

Well there ya have it.

You havent. Ill be more positive and say just a tad over middle of the pack. According to your stats. Goff threw for what 3800 hundred yards and 28 TDs? Do you happen to know how many receiving yards, receptions and TDs Todd Gurley had? almost 65 receptions, almost 800 yards and 6 touchdowns. Now look, ill never take away making the right throw. Sometimes you gotta toss is to the back, screen pass, check whatever....and I do remember a couple of very nice throws to Gurley. So some of those yards you can chalk up to good QB play. Thats a huge chunk of Goffs statistics. Now throwing to an RB isnt something only top tier QBs can do. Stats give you a general idea...but they dont show you the whole story. He wasnt as good as you picture.

I do. And it was. I suggest you go back and watch the games and compare it with the rest of the QBs this year. Youll see middle of the pack. I promise.

I never said Wentz wasnt good. Hes the one guy I think is going to be a top QB. Did you actually watch Goff play? As a betting man im going to say you didnt. I had him and Gurley in one of my fantasy leagues. So I watched a good chunk of his games. You can toss whatever stats you want out....but I can tell you Goff was middle of the pack at best this year.

So let me ask you this? Them being the best two QBs this draft....puts them where in the league? 20-32? This is kinda the point im making. Most likely these guys will be middle of the pack. Maybe one stands out if they are lucky. Not only do you have to be a good QB, but you have to be in the perfect situation. The odds are stacked against anyone getting a great franchise QB. Lots of luck involved.

Im trying to understand what people expect from Josh Allen. Im looking at past years QBs. Do you see any of this years QB draft class better than previous years? These guys are the hits...and I use that term loosely. So we draft one QB in the 1st round and we expect him to be a top 5 QB? Lets be realistic. Youre not gonna get Brady or Rodgers. Itd be a freakin miracle if any of these guys even got to the level of an Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers. It really is a crap shoot guys. Lets just hope a QB can start for us and be good enough to contend in the playoffs. Notable 2016 QBs: - Carson Wentz - Jared Goff - Dak Prescott I dont think much of Dak and I think Jared had a decent year last year. Nothing grand. Wentz and Goff were twice the prospects of this years class. So logically you wont see a QB better than Goff from this class. Notable 2015 QBs: - Jameis Winston - Marcus Mariotta Same thing here. If you drafted a QB in 2018. Youre praying they could at least get somewhere near their level. Notable 2014 QBs: - Blake Bortles - Derek Carr - Jimmy G

hmmmmm.....maybe 100k a game. 125 for his talent? not a chance.

An awful contract to take on. No thanks.

Cause he looks like a twig. My god ive never seen smaller shoulders.

Lol...people were so mixed...they had no idea how to react....looking around wondering if the pick is good.

Have you watched Allens film? Hes got way more anticipation than Tyrod. Tyrod was scared to throw in traffic. Allen is not.

I think that would hold water if he didnt impress in the Senior bowl. He played with better talent and performed much better.

Good thing he will be. Nothing to worry about.

I guess youre right. Throwaway might not be the best word. But I dont see a division winning roster yet.

I think it was pretty obvious we arent going to go anywhere this year...but lets hope we stay competitive and see player improvement. Well it took a looooot of luck to get in last year. So yeah....this year is no different.

Im a ranch guy...my gf is a blue cheese gal. I think blue cheese is classier lol.

Rosens Nose was longer than his shoulder length. Man...he looked scrawny as hell. He certainly would have died with this Oline. lol

I disagree. The Cardinals jumped the Dolphins. The fins would have taken either QB. Two 2s is actually not a bad price for the guy you want there.