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I would slow down a bit here and use some perspective. The Bills did allow 300 yards against Cincy which inflates their stats but 77 yards of it was an AJ Green TD which he got a rookie (White) to bite on a route and had him by a step them. Tampa Bay has one of the most explosive rosters in terms of offensive talent and Buffalo forced 3 TO's and held them to 27 pts with Gaines out for half the game. I think your a bit jaded because its been 17 years of rough times and we look for trouble anywhere we can as Bills fans because we have become conditioned to. I personally thought they were toast down 27-20 because that was the type of game we always lose despite having numerous chances to win. The secondary will have better weeks coming up and it probably will have a few downers just because its hard to be that good a lot and its still a new defense finding its way. As long as White, Gaines, Poyer, & Hyde are starting I feel pretty confident in what we have and can handle the lumps along the way.

The one shot for Metallica was SB 50 because it was in the Bay Area where they are from and it would've been kick a$$. Andddddd instead they wimped out by going with Coldplay and friends which was godawful.

If I was JT I would show my left nipple at the end as a joke about what happened.

Assuming PIT/NE/KC win their divisions these 4 are our main competition at this point IMO: HOU/TEN- Very possible with IND cratering they each get to 10 wins OAK- This game is massive in our fate, W goes a long way. MIA- Their defense is solid and if they just keep Moore in I no longer see this as a sweep and instead really tough games These 2 I could are close to being a major issue and a few unexpected W's by either make a problem: JAX- Their QB is still a major ? but their D and RB is legit. Given their ease in schedule I can easily see them at 9 maybe 10 wins CINCY- Tougher schedule but they can win their fair share of games and they own us on tiebreaker so if we are at 9 W's each uh oh These two are darkhorses who I wouldn't put money on or against despite each having flaws: BAL- Their defense is pretty decent and if Flacco ever figures himself back out into a bit of the QB he has been they can win some games. Plus they have won games in the past on the road in tough places like PIT. I am not underselling them yet. LAC- They have gotten back into the picture, have a potentially good-great offense at points, and D can make plays. Their stadium has issues and they have no homefield advantage, but they play anyone tough.

Yea Ballard came in well respected and thought in the NFL. He has had a few months and 7 games to make an impact with Luck out thanks to Grigsons awful O line construction. I never understood why Pagano wasn't given the pink slip either. Just seems like delaying the inevitable plus the fans unrest only grows with each loss by the current coach.

Depends on how close the lot is and if they are open to having patrols. If I am not mistaken the one piece of legislature that was up saying if you have a private lot you have to allow police inspections failed to pass in the town of OP and county.

Legally how are you going to shut down a private lot. No snark here, truly asking? The Bills, town of OP, Police, & County tried to get legislation through that would've allowed officers to go through private lots to do that and it was knocked down. While the people in private lots do a lot of stupid things, its very hard to say were shutting down the lot because someone jumped through a table thats on fire. You can shut it down if their is underage drinking although that in itself is hard to prove at points. Basically while a lot of this stuff is dumb and at points dangerous there is nothing illegal happening. Like I said its hard for the parties above because legally they don't have a lot of room here when its not public property. Even something like public intoxication won't fly because its private.

That to me is biggest irony of all of this.

I believe this tenfold especially after the barstool video documentary and the way things have been this season. However I will say this, the Bills lots themselves I have never seen a person jump through a table, get lit on fire, list of other crazy stuff etc... It is all a 100% private lots. This unfortunately one of those really tough middle grounds because Bills fans are doing these actions so the team and their lots get associated despite it not happening there. I know the Bills, the town of OP, and county are really frustrated because what is happening occurs on private property and it is incredibly hard for cops to go there and shut it down without cause. And given the fact cops would need a warrant and the constitution has laws against unreasonable search and seizure it really it tricky for them to limit this behavior. I would also add that despite the videos I have thought fan behavior has improved greatly over the last 5-6 years in the stadium and I haven't seen nearly the issues compared to pre 2012. I would also add that perhaps the tipping point of this may have been the fan who was so drunk and died in the creek during the night game. I honestly thought after that you would've seen stronger attempts at curbing fan behavior even though it occurred in a private lot.. Instead it almost seems like open season instead for fan behavior and mix social media into it you have a perfect storm.

Sorry but this is a really poor take. I don't disagree that the D wasn't at its best today, but it shouldnt have been a game given the two turnovers they forced if the offense scored. Second they are the reason we beat Atlanta and in Cincy again gave the offense multiple chances to take the game. If your honestly gonna blast the D for Cincy when they gave the offense multiple chances and White had a learning game against a Top NFL WR idk what to tell you other then stop watching

It's why I am honestly stunned Aaron Rodgers doesn't have at least another Super Bowl and why the 2014 NFC Championship looks/feels like such a failed opportunity for GB in retrospect. He is the best pure QB in the game other then Brady and the NFC only had offered basically Matt Ryan/Romo against him as an equal. Eli and Russell Wilson are a notch below Matt Ryan/Romo to me. He still has time to get another ring or two, but there are a lot of QB's who also had their shot and never got back to a SB again or even got to a SB. And with how open the NFC looks again this year that injury completely sucks for him because I think most had GB as the favorite or one of the Top 3 teams.

Agreed although it is cyclical. The Bills, Chiefs, Dolphins, and Broncos dominated from the mid 80s until 99. The difference to me is the rules allowed QB's to get hit less so guys like Brady, Manning, Big Ben, & Rivers all in the AFC have gotten a life cycle far longer then the previous generations of QB's who melted down around 10-12 years not 13-16 years like we are seeing. Since the 2000 AFC parity really has been a joke. Here is the list of teams from the NFC that have made the SB: PHI, 3x NYG, 2x CAR, ATL, NO, TB, GB, CHI, STL/LA, 3x SEA, SF, & ARZ. 12 of the 16 NFC Teams have made it which is pretty awesome that 75% of your conference has hit that point of success. In regards to the NFC title game only DAL, WSH, & DET have failed to make that in the last 17 years. Now compared to the AFC in SB: NE, PIT, BAL, IND, DEN. A paltry 6 of 16 teams in the AFC only 37%. That really doesn't give much hope or enthusiasm to AFC fan bases and over time only drowns down the energy for teams. It would be nice to see over the next two decades if the AFC could get some more representation for different teams once these guys retire. I myself was honestly not that into the last two SB's given how often Brady and Manning have been around. I think the media likes the story lines of those guys for ratings, but KC or HOU at this point would be a welcome change.

Agreed that in terms of padding and helmets etc.. a lot more should be done, especially for the head. I just don't want additional rules.

I am going to the Raiders game and I am terrified because they have been so off on offense. I think win or loss against KC it is a tough matchup despite our defense being really good. The only saving grace if your superstitious is the Raiders poor record traveling across the country especially to Buffalo not that I really buy that argument anyway.

If you honestly think that it was intentional thank god you didn't watch football pre 2000 where QB's got lit up routinely Completely disagree. It is hard enough to tackle a QB without a flag as is. At some point you and fans need to accept regardless of what we do to protect players bad hits happen and players will be in vulnerable positions. It's unavoidable. Frankly football fans today are lucky and spoiled with how QB's are not hit and how the stars are playing longer then ever thanks to rule changes so you can see their excellence. Just about every top QB pre-2000 minus maybe Elway got hit in ways that ended seasons frequently or at minimum would take them out for weeks at a time. The 1990 Bills division clinching game was led by Frank Reich against Dan Marino because Kelly got his knee drilled. I'm sure the networks and fans would've preferred Jim vs Dan but it was what it was. Montana was hit so bad in the 1990 NFC championship it messed him up for the following season and a half. Terry Bradshaw's injury in 1980 ended the Steelers dynasty more or less on spot because he was never the same. The last decade and a half has basically been a golden era of QB play and see stars out their without much injury at that position. That was not routine and people are too conditioned that it should be now. I honestly don't care to see football neutered in a way that a QB becomes untouchable which some are basically pushing for now. As is the rule changes in 04 and 07 on QB/WR's made it even harder to win without a top QB because if the limits on hitting players. The last thing I care to see is even more regulation in a game is impossible to fully regulate anyway.

The Raiders remind me of GB the first half of last year. Everyone on their roster was misfiring from Rodgers to Nelson to Adams. They just needed time to realign themselves. The problem for Oakland is GB played a softer schedule and had the ability to lay an egg. Going 0-2 with Carr out and playing in the AFC West has exasperated the situation for the offense and how bad they looked. They frankly have to win the next two no questions asked to stay in the playoff race. A loss to either KC/BUF puts them really far down in tie breakers and record.

Tuck Rule: Growing up as a kid while the Bills were my favorite team, Gannon was my favorite player and Oakland always has been a cool team to me in general. I remember jumping in front of the TV when the fumble happened thinking OAK sealed up the win, only to see it reversed on the most BS call I've seen to date. I went to bed just utterly stunned and pretty sure I laid there for 30 minutes trying to recant how it was possible. (No real fan pain if it was the Bills dear god that wouldve killed) In regards to yesterday my issue stems to the fact the reffing is not equitable across the board. The Jets absolutely got hosed on that call as would've BUF, CLE, or name another down club over the last bunch of years. I believe when lesser teams like the Jets or Bills score refs have almost a shock that the TD happened against a team like NE so they go the extra mile in their eyes that its the correct call. Things aren't equitable because if that's the Patriots, Steelers, Broncos, Chiefs, insert big name team thats successful its a TD without even a thought. Second I thought to overturn a call from the ruling on the field you have to have clear evidence that the ball was being fumble. I watched the replays and no one can say it there was any form of that. These kind of calls drive me nuts because it really hurts the balance of the game and justifiably implies that the Patriots are being favored. Add in the fact the Pats actually maybe kinda could lose to the Jets if its 24-21 and they would be 3-3 and its a perfect storm of crap.

It took an L to Rex Ryan's Bills in 2016 who were coming off their first offseason title.

Haha ok so they don't play anyone so predict their record to end the season. I have the Bills going 9-7 and just missing out on the playoffs to break everyones heart.

The thing with 2018 is you are hinging that improvement is automatic regardless of anything else. The defense for as good as it had been may very possibly be with Kyle Williams and Dareus next season. The defense has gotten some breaks on turnovers which if they go a different way we could be 2-3 or even 1-4. My point is you just really don't know one year to the next because of how much can change and every other team/fanbase thinks the same thing. A lot of 1BD from what I've read and believed saw the 2017 schedule and figured 5-11/6-10. If you looked at the 17 schedule vs 18 I would've thought 18 was more favorable for a playoff year, but now they have a shot. They got through the worst portion 3-2 (until KC/NE) with a schedule now that looks plausible to hit 10 wins which you need for playoffs. But they have to get some help or at least take a chance to get help even if it is in FA.

In regards to "too good to pass" the Bills got a quality CB and 2nd rnd pick from Watkins a player who may not have been even resigned had he stayed here. At the time they had Boldin and Matthews was acquired thanks to Gaines addition and Darby being disposable at that point. So yea at the time it actually was a pretty solid deal when the WR corp was Matthews, Boldin, & Zay Jones which wasn't bad. I do think if Beane had known that Matthews would get injured, Clay injured, and Boldin retired he may not make the deal, but hindsight is 20/20 and you couldn't have predicted all three of those things occurring. And I agree I would be stunned for them to make a move for a bigger name guy. I think they are hinging that Matthews comes back by the Jets/Saints game and if they go 2-1 all is well etc...

Exactly. Before this season no one had them beating both ATL/DEN and everyone was pretty pessimistic on their chances. Next years schedule technically looks better compared to this one before the season started but we could go 1-4 and thats pretty much it. Take your chances when you can without mortgaging the future. They have 3 home games and a winnable Jets game coming up. If you go 3-1 and are sitting at 6-3 the idea of the playoffs isn't far fetched with games at home against IND/MIA and away at LAC/MIA. That's a pretty nice reasonable shot there and it would really suck if they refuse to do anything in the interest of the "future" which still is unknown.

They made a move because they found one that was too good to pass up on. Beane said so himself and I wouldn't expect he wouldn't do the same to bring a guy in if the value matched. The Bills have zero proven WR's at this point with Matthews/Clay out. You will not win enough games even with Matthews back to make the playoffs as currently constructed. I said you do not need to sell the farm to bring in help or at minimum try.

My focus was not on a specific player those were examples. The key would be trying to improve the roster in a major area of weakness so we stay competitive.

The Bills have a pretty crucial period coming up with this bye week and then 3 games at home and playing the Jets. The opportunity is their for them to potentially go 3-1 and really give themselves a shot at a playoff berth.They also could lay an egg like they did this weekend and waste a good defense that did well enough despite some injuries. Whether or not the Bills make any moves in the next two weeks will show how much they care short term about the playoffs or solely focused on the future. I say this because regardless of my opinion on Tyrod he is going to be throwing at this starting passing group: Z Jones, B Tate, & N Oleary. I don't care who the QB is or if you want Peterman that group is not remotely good enough. If Matthews and Clay were both healthy then yea there is enough in terms of options to be OK passing the ball. But they are not going to be playing and Clay is probably done for the year at this point. To me you have to make a move or two; take a flier on Vincent Jackson and Gary Barnidge. They could flame out but at least it would show some urgency to not waste this years great defense. See if for a 3rd rnd pick you could get Travis Benjamin from LAC. If they sit their and do nothing I would find that incredibly disappointing in how they view the season. I and most fans are not asking for the Bills to sell the farm at this point and the process they have seems to be doing decent so far. At the same point even the most novice fan could look and say the Bills WR/TE corp is a mess and could use some chance of improvement. If the Bills do nothing it will be a start indication of how they view this season.