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https://jaydpauley.medium.com/analysis-of-the-offensive-and-defensive-ranks-for-super-bowl-champions-2dbb354ebb60 The written article in which this chart was pulled from reached the same conclusion as me (see below). "2017-present, an era of offense We are currently in an era where offense wins championships. All six of the last six Super Bowl champions had an offense ranked higher than defense, and that gap between rankings has increased in each of the last three years with the 2020 Buccaneers (offense +5 over defense), 2021 Rams (+8) and culminating with the 2022 Chiefs who were ranked #1 on offense and # 16 on defense. The average offense is ranked almost 6 spots higher than the average defense for a Super Bowl winner since 2017 (Offense 3.8, Defense 9.5). Five of the six last winners had a top 5 offense (2017 Eagles 3rd, 2018 Patriots 4th, 2019 Chiefs 5th, 2020 Bucs 3rd, and the 2022 Chiefs 1st). The only team not in the top five were the 2021 Rams, but their offense (7th) was still ranked 8 spots ahead of their defense." Offense wins championships. Period. 😝

You said the the tops 3 scoring defenses. Just pulling the stats you mentioned, I didn't want to put words in your mouth. Also, 5 years is more than Zero last I checked, and we could look beyond that and more. Typically it's the offense that scores the winning points in Superbowls of recent memory. KC doesn't win without Mahomes or Kelce, they have won with sub par defense though. Clearly you're getting upset, so I'll bid you adieu on that note. Point stands. O > D. Offense is the way of the modern NFL, no matter how upset or how many WR1, WR2 scenarios you make up in your head.

https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/defense/scoring/2023/reg/all Still Looks like Dolphins, Raiders, Cowboys. While you don't want a bad team or defense obviously, Offense wins championships. The last umpteen Lombardi winners prove that.

Im not sure this is correct, looks like Cowboys Dolphins and Raiders D led the league in scoring last year. Also, no one is making the case of a bad D, and balance is good as well, but to deny that we have over invested in underperforming defensive picks and signee's and left JA woefully under armed is not an argument I'd be making. We can agree to disagree though, I prefer an offensive juggernaut that can score when they need to, as opposed to relying on my D to make stop after stop. It's the McDermott approach vs the Reid approach really. O > D

Outside of this year, the Chiefs have not been known as a Defense 1st team. They also have a well established league leading and Championship O, I'm not really sure that's been their weakness during their SB runs. If we were in that situation sure, sadly we are not. We have glaring holes @ WR and have had them for years. Even Diggs @ this point in his career is better served in WR2 role. Do we even have a #2? Honestly, it's almost criminal that we haven't provided JA more talent.

1 first round pick since drafting JA17 is not a significant investment, we can agree to disagree on that. Calling 1 1st round pick a significant investment is ... well.... use your own word. Thats exactly what Im telling you. And yes 49ers have all the right skill positions and is why they made it to the dance, you made my point for me. Only 1 team can win though, and so see my above post.

KC's defense is NOT the reason they beat us, nor is it the reason for their dynasty. Mahomes and Kelce (and Ried) are (offense), if people don't understand this by now, there's no amount of words that can turn that light on. The NFL wants scoring highlights, not defensive lowlights, the entire game is skewed in favor offenses. You win championships by being an offensive juggernaut, not by wasting 1st and 2nd round picks reaching for underperforming DL's. This is NOT the way, it's been clear as day in the modern NFL, there's really nothing more that can be said about that. Offense > Defense in modern NFL period.

Honestly, this would be very Billsy to overpay for a talented guy nearing the end of the line. As much as he would fit the bill for the Bills the real questions are for how long and at what cost. The answers are obvious... pay too much for a guy for 1 or 2 of his last years. It just doesn't make sense sadly.

He's a WR4 in the slot. We'll use him and need him to be a WR3 though. McBeane needs to come to terms that defense is not the way in the Modern NFL.

Just think we could have drafted him and still had another 1st round pick. o\ F!@%ing Whaley. That trade/pick set us back years...

It's kind of mind blowing seeing people make the case for Gabe. He's simply not good enough, all his film and stats and play back this assessment. It's almost as if people have forgot about his limited route tree, his league leading drops, his disappearing acts, all while playing with the leagues best QB while he's putting up astronomical stats. That alone, being unable to get on the same page as Josh says everything. Why would people want to hold Josh back with a guy that just can't seem to get in sync with him? The more I think about it, I just can't seem to come up with any viable argument to pay Gabe to stay on this roster.

Good for him, I like Baker and I think he's good for football. He's real football guy imho.

IDK, as a guy that hated TB12 as a Patriot and nemesis, it's pretty wild to see how quickly people forget about him. For my money, Mahomes still has miles to go to be in that company. I'd be shocked if Pat has even close to the longevity that TB12 had. To do it that long, with soo much different personel and coaches is pretty incredible. Not hating on him, just noticing how quickly everyone's ready to move TB12 down a peg.

And now all the other streaming services like Netflix and Prime are introducing commercials. They're trying to make streaming essentially cable, without all the copper infrastructure. They also want you to have your own ISP to access their service you pay for Right at a time when my sports fandom has severely waned. If not for JA17 and my deep love of the Bills and all the Sunday rituals, I may not be watching sports at all anymore. I find soo many of the athletes dislikeable and the messaging coming out of these products disagreeable... I digress.

Right you are sir.

Used to have nightmares about this drop. Should have been 5 Superbowls!

I'll start watching more video as we move forward, but I agree we need guys with hands 1st. I like the kid out of Texas too Mitchell. I think we need a bigger bodied guy that can get downfield ...AND catch (sorry Gabe)

Admittedly I don't watch as much College football as I used to, but Troy Franklin has my eye. I'd like to see us be aggressive and grab him (move a couple spots if need be). I also think we should make a move or sign someone (like a D.Hop) or other comparable top WR. We need to draft a solid WR, but I don't think we should bank the season on him either.

We need someone that can stretch the field and make room underneath for Diggs, Kincaid and Shakir. If cook could spend some time with the Juggs machine, that wouldn't hurt either.

I remember he signed that mega deal and they were just waiting for him to say he's ready. Olsen is top notch though.

I can believe this. He's no dummy, he knows it would have helped stretch the field and had a positive impact on his own game. In fact, it's no secret to anyone that's been keeping even a casual eye on the Bills. Sadly, Gabe ain't that guy either.

He made some glaring mistakes, I'm sure they're looking him back in the mirror today. Despite his mistakes, he did not want to lose, and to own that loss in that manner has to be devastating for him. I feel for him, I can't imagine he'd ever do the same thing again. I wouldn't pull the plug on him if I were the Lions

Well Sabres Coach Ted Nolan did say the elders actually got together and put a curse on the Sabres. Anything's possible. https://www.sabrespace.com/community/topic/36299-it-all-makes-sense-now/

I don't think anyone is taking this loss any harder than Motor City Dan. I feel for him and the team. He's a good coach and hopefully will learn from this moving forward.

IDK cover1 had a pretty good break down of how Diggs stuggled the 2nd half of the season the last 3 or 4 years, under Daboll, Dorsey and Brady. Basically his best season here was complimented Beasely and Brown, a real field stretcher and a legit slot wideout. He's not a field stretcher, he's not great in man, he struggles when D's focus on him down the stretch etc. Obviously, this isn't madden football, but we need to make a significant upgrade as soon as it is possible and makes sense.