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Bills sign Kenny Stills to PS
Rochesterfan replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Except he was getting paid. Stills had a 100% guaranteed contract with Houston - so his pay did not change once he was cut. Additionally - unless he signed for a bigger contract - his pay would not change because of offsets. The only thing that would change was which team was paying him - so there was almost no incentive for Stills to sign. Now take it one step further - the only additional money Stills gets is from the playoffs (winning versus losing bonus) as players are not paid in the playoffs. Therefore - Stills had the most incentive to talk with teams, but hold out signing until he could sign with a team that had a chance to go far and may need his specific services. He had no incentives to sign weeks ago because he would not get paid any more money and if something happened to him or a key player on what ever team he signed with - he could lose out. The Bills and Stills talked weeks ago - per McD comments about Beane looking at Stills for weeks - they knew the situation and knew the plan for a while. This is not a surprise. He is insurance for Brown and Beasley in case of additional injuries. They are not signing him to be some kind of starter. He provides Veteran depth and playoff experience that McD loves along with some position flexibility. Everything about this signing and the timing makes sense - you just need to understand things rather than just complaining. -
The numbers between SF and Indy (esp DVOA wise) are similar, but I don’t feel like the 2 defenses are really very comparable. SF defense to me was a much more physical defense lead by some stellar DLine play across the board especially at DE and a very good Middle LB. Indy is almost the opposite- they have Buckner in the middle as their strength and OLBs to help on the outside. I think Indy has much less you need to control to beat them. If you handle Buckner - their defense has a lot of gaps. Indy has some talent at CB at CB1 and 2, but I don’t think they have the depth SF has and I believe their safeties can be attacked. Really the only significant passing offense they faced was the Packers and Rodgers put over 300 yards and 4 first half TDs before they did one of their disappearing acts. I think the Bills have the ability to really attack this defense and force them into some very uncomfortable decisions. I want to see a lead to force Indy out of their comfort zone and away from Taylor running the ball. I do like the WRs Indy has, but I don’t love Rivers trying to throw to them - He just makes to many mistakes. I think this game will play close for parts, but I think the Bills are by far the better team and should be able to pull away as soon as Indy goes into one of their funks.
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I don’t think the top 3 picks are QBs and I am not convinced we even know which team will be making the picks. Lawerence goes #1, but I am not sure what the Jets do at 2. I think they would like move down for a nice haul of picks, but I don’t see a team sitting 3-6 with the need and capital to make a worthwhile trade. Therefore; I expect the Jets to be almost forced to take a QB at 2. It might not be ideal, but seems the likely course of action. Miami at 3 is not moving on from Tua yet - just no way a team rebuilding showing all kinds of patience - shoots themselves in the foot by moving on that quickly. I expect the also would like to move down and get more picks and maybe a player or 2. I expect OLine here, maybe a WR, but would not be shocked if this is a trade to someone like Cincinnati- where Cincinnati gets o-line and the Dolphins get a pick and a player.
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Did blowout make Sean McDermott favorite for COY?
Rochesterfan replied to mjt328's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think this is a great question. Media people giving COY to Flores talked about his handling of Tua/Fitz, but I think it really showed that it wasn’t feel, but the fact that Fitz was significantly better than Tua - therefore the switch and continued pulling of the starter actually hurt the team. I also think that preseason - most pundits had the Dolphins around 6-7 wins and they got 10 (+3 to expectations). They also had the Bills with around 10 wins and they got 13 (+3 to expectations). I think Flores did a good job with the talent, but the fact that they missed the playoff by getting smoked in the last game should knock some luster off Flores and should highlight the job done by McD. I also think the winning streak to close out the season and the SOS and SOV should push McD to the top, but I also think some voters already have their minds made up - it is how Mahomes will get a lot of his MVP vote - when he just isn’t the MVP. -
Report: SF to move on from Jimmy G
Rochesterfan replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I just don’t know - seems like you would want a definite answer at the position before this happens. I could see it - if somehow they can get Ryan or Stafford in place first, but even though Jimmy G is not a great QB - they win with him. I am not sure they are a better team with Ryan at QB. I definitely think this makes for a very interesting off-season for some of these teams - QB trades and cuts, lots of potential movement. This could get fun if the salary cap allows it. -
Bills vs. Dophins Postgame Thread
Rochesterfan replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
This is it exactly- right now you can see he is just a Torso/arm thrower - much like Josh his rookie year. His mechanics are totally buggered up and that might be injury related, but he has little shot unless he fixes that. Right now he was just like Big Ben against us - there was little threat downfield and even the throw along the sidelines were covered and forced great plays by Parker and led him out of bounds. He needs to improve a lot, but it is also obvious what he needs to work on - the question becomes will he do it - or will he follow Bakers footsteps and miss out on the first offseason and chance at growth. -
I totally agree and you could see times in the 3rd and 4th quarter where it looked like Tua was just waiting for Fitz (or someone) to come bail him out. He did not have the confidence to throw to the middle of the field and really the only throw >10 yards he made all day was 2 deep sideline throws to the left (his strong side) that he got bailed out by great catches by the WR. Neither were great throws and the DBs were there, but the WR made some great adjustments. I will be interested to see what the off-season has in store for Tua - as I will not knock him yet, but he really needs to work hard on his footwork and mechanics - he is right now similar to Josh early in his career - a torso/arm thrower. He gets little drive - which may be from the injury or could be his natural throw, but he cannot drive the ball into tight spaces - his throws are more touch based at the present time. He sees open guys and makes some throws with anticipation, but lacks the elite arm to make every play and unless he really works to make certain changes - that could be his downfall.
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I will be very interested to see once he is signed is it to the active roster or as a veteran on the PS. Based upon his limited knowledge of the system - I would assume the initial signing will be to the PS as I do not think we have any openings on the active roster with injuries. We will see - I am glad to have Beane thinking these things through.
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No kidding - Davis is a fine player, but that does not change the fact that as a rookie there has been several instances where because he is a rookie he has allowed DBs to undercut routes that a more veteran player like Diggs and Brown have prevented. The pass from Allen did him no favors, but that does not mean that it is not noted by the coaching staff where these type of plays occur. It is not a knock on Davis’s talent or a thought he is not playing well - I mean the 2 catches he had were phenomenal, but it is notable that the All-Pro play by a DB was against him and Davis stopped on the sideline (standing there) and he did not come back to help out and it opened a lane underneath him that allowed the DB to make the phenomenal play. Very similar to earlier in the season where he had an out breaking route that he flattened out and stayed level that allowed the Arizona DB to cut under. It has happened several times to him - mostly because he is a rookie without elite speed and therefore must be very precise and it is critical to fight through those DBs. The question becomes from a coaching perspective does McD prefer a faster, veteran player that has playoff experience to be available in the event a call up is needed. I think he would be more confident calling up a guy like Stills if something happens than either guy on the practice squad and he gives a bit more position flexibility as he can fill both slot and outside receiver routes. I don’t think the Stills signing (if and when it happens) changes or replaces Davis in the starting line-up. I believe it is solely a depth signing in the event Beasley or Brown misses additional time and it provides a Veteran with speed to fill the line-up with less drop off.
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After watching the 2nd half against Pittsburgh and the Jacksonville game - you see huge blocks were the team just stops playing - The offense gets out of rhythm and the defense couldn’t stop Glennon or the ghost of Big Ben. They don’t really scare me, but they are a very talented team that plays about 30 minutes of great football a week.
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Round 1 Playoff: Colts at Bills - Sat. 1/9 1:05pm
Rochesterfan replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
With unlimited PS call-ups - I would happily keep Yeldon off the roster and let Williams get some play. -
@transplantbillsfan and I had a bunch of back and forth on the old Buffalo Bills message board about Tyrod being or not being a franchise QB, but we both were all on board Allen from day 1. I thought years ago the Transplant was a bit to much of a homer, but I am happy that we got the guy we needed to trigger a true NFL offense at this level. I applaud him for keeping this up - my favorite thread of the year.
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Round 1 Playoff: Colts at Bills - Sat. 1/9 1:05pm
Rochesterfan replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Not true - If Cleveland beats Pittsburgh thy go to KC as highest seed. -
It depends on Stills and what he wanted. If you follow the timeline - to sign him last week would mean about 2-3 weeks ago getting him to agree and then start the protocol. What incentive does Stills have to sign a couple of weeks ago? It isn’t pay as he was paid for doing nothing and being home to work out. From a timing stand point waiting was better for Stills because who knows what team/player gets hurt - he might have had his choice of MVP level QBs to play with. My guess would be since McD said this is something Beane has been looking at for weeks - The agent for Stills and Beane have talked through and maybe Stills wanted to wait - it is a two way street and I am sure deciding on timing was part of the process. I agree it might have been nice to get him in to have some extra practices, but if the player wants to wait - you can’t force him in.
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Of course there is a chance because it is not done yet, but why do you think the timeline is strange? There is nothing strange happening here at all. Stills can’t officially sign until he clears 6 days of negative COVID testing (essentially 1 full week) and the earliest they can meet and practice is next Wednesday because of COVID protocol. So the timing makes sense - he came in and is getting tested (probably staying in a hotel near the stadium). He is talking with guys like Diggs and Bills Mafia via social media so it seems he is ready to join (not looking elsewhere). The announcement should come Monday or Tuesday as soon as he clears protocol and the timeline fits to everything Beane has talked about all year and similar to what you saw with other “name” veterans that had to clear protocol - it takes between a week and 10 days from visit to signing depending upon when guys arrive to start the protocol testing. The second part is people keep saying the timing is weird - why not do this weeks ago when Brown was hurt? My answer to that is simple - Stills was under a guaranteed contract from Houston at Brown level money. If he signed before the end of the year (unless someone offered huge money) - his pay was not changing just where the money was coming from. After this week, the players are no longer paid salary- just bonuses for wins/loses - so it behooves Stills to sign with a team he thinks can win the most games, get a small signing bonus (salary doesn’t matter - league minimum as he is not getting paid anyway) and join up with a team right after week 17 - the exact timeline seen here. Since McD talked about Beane having an eye on this for weeks - that tells me that Stills was discussed as a potential Brown replacement in the event Brown re-aggravates his leg injury and that Beane and Stills agent understood the exact timeline they were following. It also has the least impact on the Bills salary cap and allows them to roll over money next year that might have been spent on Stills if he signed in the regular season.
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Good Lord - once again prior to signing he must clear 6 days of negative COVID Tests to sign and have entry to the facility. He will not clear until Mon or Tuesday of next week. Stills was waiting until after the season as he was on a guaranteed contract that Houston had to pay. The tweets say it all - a deal is in place once cleared he can sign. The Bills would not have wanted him to sign prior to Miami - they have PS call ups they can use to help supplement the WRs. They will bring him in strictly as insurance for both Beasley and Brown in the playoffs and I am sure he can learn enough routes to be useful if needed.
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Aight....who's got tickets?
Rochesterfan replied to The Firebaugh Kid's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
From past experience - I thought mouth stuff only got you a Kiko Jersey also. Hold out for more. 😂 -
What to do with Dawson Knox
Rochesterfan replied to bobobonators's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think his biggest issue is how fairly early in his career he got that angry run for his play in Cincinnati and he wants to replicate that. He knows physically he can dominate the smaller guys and therefore he takes his eyes off the ball before the catch looking to move upfield. You are 100% correct in that having a Jugs machine (as he did all summer) helps minimally as his hands themselves are not bad as can be seen by the tough catches. Right now he lacks concentration to secure the catch and is more focused on what to do after the catch. This is also the reason I don’t move on yet. He is young with little experience catching balls in a game. He is essentially learning a new position as TE in college versus the NFL is very different - especially in his current role where he can be split out wide, stacked at the end of the line, an inline blocker, an H-back, a full back, and a pitch guy out of the up back spot. He is blocking a variety of players from DL/DE on pulls, to LBs and DBs on blitzes and he sometimes struggles with some assignments because of that, but he has gotten better and learned and there is no reason to assume he can not figure out the concentration issue and become a better receiver. -
Please see my string of response to you from earlier on this. The fact that McD mentioned that Beane has been looking at him for several weeks tells you the Bills would of liked him in weeks ago, but financially it makes no sense for Stills to sign any earlier than the end of the regular season. It was not going to have an impact on his pay because of his guaranteed contract with Houston. Now he can get a small bonus and take vet minimum and it does not matter as the players are no longer paid per game. Anything he makes now is extra money - so it was smart for him to wait and find a team that can go far in the playoffs - rather than sign weeks ago and get on a dud team. Most likely any contract they sign right now would just be for the playoffs and they view him as insurance for an injury at any WR position. I just don’t see them giving another year at this point and then they let him walk as a potential Comp pick player as a FA.
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It makes absolute sense from the players side - understand his contract! He was on a guaranteed contract about the same money as Brown from Houston - so getting cut meant he kept getting the same paycheck - for doing nothing. His contract had offsets - so if he signed and played someplace unless it was for more money than his Houston contract - his pay would not change the difference is how much Houston had to pay. He was able to double dip and get paid from multiple teams or he might have signed earlier. The players are also only paid for the regular seasons- so it makes total sense that the player would want to wait as long as possible to sign with a team because in the playoffs it is about bonus money (winners share versus losers share) - allowing him to maximize his pay and still get on a talented team with a SuperBowl run. Based on what McD said - I would assume Beane has been in contact and they were on the same page waiting until the season was over to sign up. It would have impacted his pay though.