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Said it during the game - the laces were to the left on the 2nd miss and it missed left and Mason looked straight down at Cory glaring at him. The kicker gets blamed, but sometimes the hold causes issues and Cory has had that problem more than a few times. Last year at least 3 of the misses Bass had - he kicked the laces - they were facing him not laces out - so it was an obvious issue. It is one of the things Haack is significantly better at than Cory and will potentially win or lose more games than punting for the Bills.

It really depends upon what you are using them for. It has been repeatedly shown QBR is for the most part can be useless. There are numerous cases (at least one in this thread) where a guy with obvious worse statistics has just about as good of a QBR. Therefore - no that doesn’t work. Passer rating has its own faults - such as a guy that throws a ball away under pressure is penalized versus a QB that takes a sack because you get an incompletion if you throw it away. It also doesn’t factor in things like drops and in Josh’s case this year weather. Yes - overall I would say Josh has not been quite as good as last year, but he has played 2 games in nasty/rainy conditions leading to at least 1 turn over. He also has played in a game with some whipping wind circling around. So really out of 5 games - he has had maybe 2 games where the weather was even good. Even with all of that - Josh has been the better QB on the field in all 5 games and has greatly outperformed the guys on the other team and that is the most important thing. Wins are a team stat and Josh is a team player - so I think he is more concerned with that 1 stat than QBR or Rating or anything.

It has been stated in other defensive threads and discussions - QB pressures and pressure rate are a DL/OL monitor - meaning that is dependent more upon how the 2 lines play and is usually consistent. Sacks and Sack rate are a QB monitor much as you say in your post and are much less dependent on the OL or DL. Josh has been seeing a lot of pressure in some games, but his athleticism and pocket awareness allows him to help keep sacks low. The OL has also done some nice work at times (as pointed out by Baldy) with a nice wide and deep pocket - giving Josh options. I would expect his sack rate to stay low because he is a hard man to bring down and even when teams have him - he is good at getting rid of the ball a lot. It is a nice weapon to have.

But didn’t they use it later in the game with Kumerow and Sanders and pass from it?

Really need the confused emoji for this post - not sure they did much to confuse the Bills. They had 315 yards passing, over 120 yards rushing, no sacks - Josh had 3 passing TDs and a rushing TD. The Chiefs also got away with several questionable calls where the DBs got to the receivers early and the officials let it go. They had no turnovers. I am pretty sure the only time KC really stopped the Bills are when the officials made some questionable holding calls on the o-line and then when they started to stack the line as the Bills went more conservative with the weather and the score.

Maybe, but I think they want revenge in that game. I don’t see a let down because that is another loss from last year they want to eliminate.

We all know that certain players are just inherently likable- Josh Allen is great and this team just seems to have fun with each other, but overall there are special moments - things we don’t always see, but somehow the majority of the time - this team is doing the right thing in the best way possible. Take this moment with Diggs and a young KC fan - it just seems right that in enemy territory- you ignore that and give a young kid a special moment that the family will remember. He didn’t need to do it and did it without thought of what he was going to get. I LOVE THIS TEAM! Everyone will have their own reasons, but seeing things like this and Josh with kids - just drives home the likability of this team.

How about I enjoy the win and save the worrying for another day.

We muted and just watched . Didn’t miss a thing without him. What an absolutely terrible crew calling a marquee game. I wish the NFL would step in and get them off the air, but it is NBCs embarrassment.

Wish I could give you 5 thumbs up - so here 👍👍👍👍👍. I know Mahomes is great and all, but I can’t stand the guy and love both Allen and White. Give me the trade 100 out of 100 times.

I think we see why BoJo is no longer a Bill. Couple bad punts and Crosby looked like he was glaring at him on that missed FG. Looked like the laces were off to left and the Ball went left. Plus a missed XP. I think they are getting the full BoJo experience. Glad he is gone - just for the increased Bass consistency.

Actually - Losing Lawson allowed Franklin to develop and get paid - I don’t think Lawson is any better and they both only play the same side. Becton was terrible in pre-season - out of shape and a turnstile. I think losing both made 0 difference for this team.

Totally disagree - I think keeping it in OP benefits the Bills the least. The absolute worst thing for the Bills stadium is pre-game tailgating. People eat their own food and drink their own drinks - giving no money to the team and having them spend less in the stadium. People park in private lots taking money from the parking funds. The best thing would be to build something downtown and have many local breweries and pubs partnering up and having better and more food and drink choices associated with the stadium both inside and out. Some people have said the Bills fans are smart - others said cheap - the truth is they have had the tailgating and private lots since the stadium opened and that cuts a significant portion of revenue that other teams generate. I expect that even if the stadium is finally built in OP - there will be changes created that limit people parking in private lots by including parking in ticket packages. I would also expect them to change hours to limit tailgating and drinking in the lots before and after - to drive more internal sales. I think the entire game day experience changes with a new stadium - no matter where it is built.

Two things - 1) I am not sure the owners really want OP over downtown - I believe based upon the proposed costs that they felt Downtown was going to be more expensive than they were willing to deal with. 2.) NYS and the county are going to foot the majority of the bill either way. If the state can use infrastructure funds to help with the cost of infrastructure around the stadium - then it becomes an input of federal, state, and local money - mixing with private funds from the NFL and the Pegula’s. We will see, but I think they would be ecstatic if the county and state came through to fund a downtown stadium.

It will never pay for itself, but you get a lot more potentially out of it downtown than in OP. OP bring you zero income outside of the game. Downtown brings significantly more places and people to spend money on what is already present.

I liked this better as you only tweet on the Russell Wilson thread originally. It better suits a finger injury.

It happens several times a year - usually in training camp. A team will announce they are cutting a player and then someone decides we want that guy and are not getting him another way and offer up a late round pick and they make a trade. They may have been talking, but not getting a commitment and this gives a deadline and commitment to force the deal. The transaction does not occur until 4pm - so they can put him on the cut list and pull him off several times right up until the official times. Sometimes they have pulled guys after announcing a cut and put them back on the active roster while they work on deals - it might be days or even a week. The media guys report out the upcoming transaction- ie. The looming cut as that is what is the news and then the GM gives a final push to either sign/trade for the guy or wait and see. It also still gives the team a last ditch chance to control the situation.

There is your next TB Corner back. 🤦‍♂️

I definitely think this is true 10+ years ago when they were a winning program, but I am not sure it rings true with the societal changes and the string of bad coaches that have rolled through USC since Carrol snuck out the back door before the NCAA hit them. I think at this point they are looking for a clean guy that can win and not a guy that has been run out of 3 college programs for potential violations and then “fired” from the NFL for this conduct. I could be wrong - I know USC wants to win badly as that entire conference has been run out of college football in recent years, but I just can’t see him as even a potential option with how he has handled his recent departures and then this issue.

Honestly - I think this issue kills any shot at USC for him. It is a really bad look for anyone - let alone what would become a college coach to be doing that with a young girl. It would open up questions of his influence on other college aged girls and I do not see a college anywhere that takes him until this settles down. I also think based upon his decisions to bring in a slime ball athletic trainer and trying to slip that in and the way he handled the team so far - mixed with this and his other fines - I think the owner should suspend and then fire WITH CAUSE Urban and get out of paying him any more money. You have a potential franchise QB there - don’t ruin him with this slime ball HC.

See I totally am the other way- to me Beth’s voice is just terrible and I can’t listen at all. It physically bothers me listening to that voice. Maddy’s voice is different and doesn’t bother me at all. It is not a smooth voice, but it does not bother me. I also find that she knows sports in general and to me asks better questions than Chris Brown. She really just needs to get her confidence up. I totally can understand how one person can go one way and someone hears something different - that is fine - we just need to be accepting that we each bring our own feelings and background into this. What we all should agree on as Bills fans though is that Chris Collinsworth is a friggin Patriots Ball Washer - whether you like his voice or not - he is 100% biased in his reporting.

The number #1 thing for a play by play person on either TV or Radio is voice. They are going to be talking throughout most of the game and if that person has a terrible voice or their “voice is grating” - they will sound bad. After the voice comes content - can they cover what is happening and do they process the plays and provide appropriate feedback. Reading through the thread - the vast majority of people seem to agree - she knows her stuff, but her voice is like listening to fingernails on a chalk board - therefore the majority do not like her. I have heard very few say that she can’t do the “job” - there are a lot of people saying she shouldn’t do the job because she basically ruins a broadcast. There are many other announcers that have a smoother voice and sound good, but don’t provide the content or are hard to listen to because they make mistakes everywhere. Beth does not fall into this group of bad announcers at all as far as I am concerned. I think there is something about her voice that just really bothers some people and therefore for those people she is a terrible listen. My son was sitting there and this is his first time hearing her and without prompting was like “Dad - you need to mute this that voice is horrible”. He didn’t know anything about her - he didn’t even know it was a women until a bit into the game, but the voice was so bad we had to mute it so he could watch it. It is no different than Maddy Glab and Chris Brown on One Bills Live. I personally don’t like to listen to Chris Brown at all - there is something about the inflection of voice and the way he goes from normal tone to practically screaming that makes him a hard listen, but Maddy doesn’t bother me much at all. For others Maddy’s voice is just terrible and they can’t listen to her at all. So I guess for me - I hope this is the last time we ever have Beth Mowers call a game - her voice to me is a total disaster and as that is the primary means of her job - to me she is an absolute failure at it. I would 100% prefer to listen to a smooth voiced person that doesn’t know anything - because I do not rely on them to provide content - I can see what is happening- they are just part of the background noise. We actually enjoy making fun of those announcers that are bad and it makes the experience funnier - as opposed to this weekend where we had to mute the majority of the broadcast because her voice was annoying and therefore lose the background ambiance.

He tried that a bunch this game also. 😂

Really - I have 5 within 5 minutes of my house in Rochester and 2 more at Gas stations. We also have 2 Tim Hortons, but they hardly ever have anyone there. The Dunkins are almost always busy.

Nope - her horrid voice broke the stadium.