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I think this is mostly right - he would care where it was built to better support his other investments like Downtown Hotels and Restaurants and help bring infrastructure to help improve the area around the hockey stadium to bring more and better tournaments in. Money he could make outside of the sport itself. The more important piece though - I believe - is to get the most public funding possible and the lowest cost and have it owned by the county - so they pay upkeep and renovation costs that will come every year because it is open air. I think if this had been done 5 years ago - they would push downtown big time, but PSE has been getting rid of the poorly managed restaurants downtown and therefore there is less for them. We will see with the ECC campus - if the Pegula’s are gifted some land to develop around the stadium or if they eventually push to have a new rink built out in OP in the next decade. This decision has the potential for additional impact down the road.

There you go - position numbers it makes sense - I think they must have been trying to give Hollister a shot at an active roster - or maybe his request. Not surprised - makes sense positionally. Probably a guy they have been watching. Very developmental, but has nice traits - just to injured so far.

It could be - I totally agree with the logic, but if there was a veteran OLineman out there that was any good - it seems like he would be heading to an active roster. OL - especially tackles are at such a premium that the Bills didn’t feel they could cut Doyle and get him to the PS. They did cut Hart and I don’t anticipate him coming back and he is one of the better veteran tackles available - so I am just not sure who this mystery Tackle is. I could totally see a young rookie or UDFA if they can find one - I just don’t see the valuable veteran OT that is better than Bates and Brown. To me Doyle is just on the 53 to protect him and he will be inactive every week, but will get valuable experience for next year. Ideally - I am right there with you - they would love a veteran tackle that could be a call-up and protection, but I don’t see those guys available. The only position that I see veteran depth that has a talent pool left is DB - you have several CBs and even a guy like Marlowe at safety and a few of these guys might be able to play either Safety or Corner in a pinch. This is the part of the game that I love - it is like math mixed with a puzzle.

Or Kraft found a way to give Hoyer money under the table. Anyone want some BH#5 juice or bars - 100% all natural - we accidentally bought 10,000 cases at $1000 a case and found out they were horrible. Oh well I guess Hoyer will get the 10 million - AW shucks it was an honest investment opportunity. 😂

It is interesting. Going through the numbers both on the roster and on the PS - I am leaning away from DB. They already have 3 on the PS - which complements the active roster being short. Safety is the same except they kept an extra safety on the active roster and are 1 short on the PS. LB with 6 and 1 seems fine and DL has 2 PS guys so they seem covered. QB with 2 and 2 and WR with 7 and 2 seem set. OL - they kept extra tackles on the 53 and have 2 guys on the PS - so there is not a glaring need. That leaves me with RB and TE. TE has the biggest need with 2 active and 1 PS - when traditionally they keep 4 on the active roster. I know Gilliam can fit that role, but that still leaves them 1 short of our usual numbers. My only concern here is that we had a guy in Hollister - that would be your obvious bring back guy and they didn’t. RB - we have 3 (+ Jones - really a ST guy) and 1 PS - not exactly short, but not fully fleshed out. If they had their eyes on a speedy pass catching guy - I could see that. I guess position wise - I lean a TE is coming in, but I just don’t see the value or the player. Available players that seem obvious - I lean CB as there are 3-4 veteran guys that could be nice fits - so my guess is a veteran DB will be visiting to be around for a last shot at a ring.

Completely disagree with this take. We saw once again that for bottom tiered young guys 45-60 - pre season is vital to making a roster. That was really lacking for rookies and UDFA’s last year and there were almost no waiver wire pick-ups because of the lack of preseason. Stevenson makes this roster because of preseason work. Hamlin makes this roster in the preseason. McCloud gets picked up and is on a roster because of preseason. For 27 waiver wire pick-up - preseason meant the world. Now we will see how it goes once the season starts. Do defenses look better early because they got (even if limited) some playing time? Are there fewer soft tissue injuries early in the season because these players were able to open it up and go all out and actually tackle? I could see a reduction and/or a change from 3 preseason games down to 2 or 1 and more controlled scrimmages to allow coaches to see these players actually play, but there are just as many injuries in the scrimmages as games. I personally loved how McD handled the preseason. Almost no starters - he let bubble guys play and it showed out for some young guys that made this roster and some Veterans that got cut. He also chose one game and got his guys a little time together just to get them all on the same rhythm and timing.

Maybe, but he made the original 53 and was cut after the Lions claimed 2 players. So the timing really doesn’t add up. For example Ferguson was cut yesterday so Stevenson could make he 53 and then when Stevenson moved to IR Reid came back. Marlowe was on the Lions ester day when they would of IR’d players and was cut today with their Waiver pick-ups that hav to go on the active roster. Doesn’t mean he won’t be back, but I don’t think it was the cut and IR piece.

Could be. It ruled out Hollister for me and Becker. I thought maybe Marlowe, but he wouldn’t need a tour. Trufant sounded like he was dealing with some family issues, but if that is cleared up then I am all for it. I was trying to see if there was some younger OLine prospects, but didn’t see anything earth shattering. Can’t wait to find out.

McKenzie was fielding kicks today - so my guess would be McKenzie.

Brandon Beane said at 5:00 on the radio - the last spot is filled - they were flying the guy in to tour and to sign. Not sure who or what position - BB would not say.

I heard Beane say that also - wondering who they have coming in. Sounded like a tour and signing - so I thought it was someone totally new. @Reks Ryan - why is it strange they haven’t signed someone from another team. We have a deep and talented roster with lots of guys they like. It should be no surprise that they wanted to keep as many of their own guys as possible. The surprise to me was that we only had 1 guy claimed and some lesser teams had multiple guys picked up. It shows me the Bills really have a pretty good handle on this.

What can you repeat that in writing on the board? 😂

Urban has always felt he was above the law or was the law everyplace he has been. Jacksonville has been no different except each time he has tried to do things his way - sneaky hires, over practicing, and now vaccinated comments - he keeps getting his hand slapped. He is not long for this position and that is going to set their QB back because Urban seems vindictive and I could see him doing similar things that Bill O’Brien did and destroying the team from the inside before he is gone.

Not sure I would consider CB a position of need and I am really not sure an upgrade comes from the Jets cut pile. If he struggled bad enough to be one of their worse defenders - he isn’t beating out our top guys on the 53. He just isn’t.

With one last spot - I would expect it to go to Becker, but I am wondering if they are waiting on Hollister. Maybe if Hollister doesn’t find another team - he will fill the last spot. Overall - very happy with the breakdown. Would of loved McCloud based upon what I saw, but Cam Lewis showed just a bit less in just a bit more time. I am all good.

Depends, but based upon much of what has been proposed - ECC south gets demolished and suddenly you have 4-5 extra lots - more than enough to support the fan base. They already have more spaces available if needed as they allow doubling up in lots as people leave space to tailgate. In a 60,000 seat stadium you are looking at 15,000 fewer patrons already - so I think they could easily get more than enough spots if they want. There are other ways they could go about eliminating private lots if they want, but the most effective is to bake it into the cost of the ticket/PSL and then they get the money even if you decide to park elsewhere.

Yes people absolutely love going to Bills games and we are known for having some of the best tailgating in the NFL. Of course people love being in the lot drinking THEIR BEER and eating THEIR FOOD. And this is the crux of the issue. The fans love that, but if you eat a ton before going into the game with food you brought and you drink your alcohol before entering - how much money does the team make? The teams are running the league to make money and if tickets, parking, and concessions are all ways to make money and in Orchard Park you have private lots and huge tailgating parties - you are eliminating 2 out of the 3 ways to make a profit. So whatever happens with the stadium - current 60,000 open air in OP - the team has to he looking at ways to shift that money you spend outside to into the stadium concessions and parking to claw money back. My guess would be to see parking passes as part of the tickets/PSLs - therefore they are getting paid for parking whether you want to park in their lots or not. I would also expect them to adjust parking hours - keeping people out of the lots a bit longer to limit the amount of time people have to cook or drink and closing the lots earlier for the same reason. I would also expect better control on parking spaces to again limit the tailgating ability. I would then increase the concession area intake by having a “party zone” on the way in with local private vendors paying a fee and you have food and drink set-up along the walk in, with merchandise, and fun “kids” things to do. Those become the areas to grab the extra dollars that are right now going to private lots and people eating and drinking their own food. This will tick some people off - along with new price points and PSLs - so you reduce the number of tickets to keep demand high.

Sweeny’s availability has not been worse than Kroft - who missed significant time each year due to injury. I would also watch the PS as it sounds like Morris (nice potential receiving TE) and perhaps Becker (Blocking role) will be re-signed - meaning if Knox or Sweeney are injured they can call up a replacement for either role. I also would not rule out a trade at a later time if something shakes free, but I think they are happy with the grouping of guys they have.

Not surprising really - I think this gives them some COVID protection just in case and neither Webb nor Fromm shined. It might be a position they can flex out of if they decide they want someone else later on.

Does that really make them worse. Sweeney has shown himself to be as good as Kroft and nearly everyone complained about Lee Smith even being on the roster. I wouldn’t argue they are better, but I am not sure they are worse.

As far as FF goes - it depends upon the point structure and league, but I tend to stay far away from Bills RBs right now - maybe as a last second grab. The Bills run so few times and like to split up carries that even with Devin being a clear #1 he is not getting many carries a game. Then you top that with Moss and Gilliam getting more goal line carries - even those are limited by Josh and McKenzie getting carries in the deep red zone. I think for football Devin will be a clear #1 back - for fantasy - I think both are going to be very average to below average backs. It would be one thing if they caught a bunch of passes to counterbalance the pass heavy offense, but even then Josh tends to throw to WR #4 or #5 more than the backs. Maybe that will change in the updated offense, but I tend to look at the Bills RBs (at least for fantasy) more like other teams #2 or even #3 guys.

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It makes sense as per previous discussions - the price tag was quoted at around 1.8 billion open air in OP with about 70,000. It sounds like after discussion the leaked info cut 400,000 off the price, but to do that cut about 10,000 seats. There is a sweet spot - the question becomes who is paying to get to the sweet spot and adding the seats.

This sounds like a bunch of whining excuse making because the vast majority don’t like the concept you are presenting. It doesn’t sound to me that most people don’t like change - it sounds to me like most people think that the hideous Blue helmet with white Buffalo and red stripe just looks ugly. It really could have just been left in the other thread, but then you LAMP’d it and now seem to be finding excuses why most people do not like it. The color mix is bad and it does not pop - it looks incomplete- like someone forgot to finish up the coloring job and just never got to the Buffalo. The white causes the Buffalo to lose all dimension. The Red stripe draws the eye away from the shape behind it and therefore it loses any sizzle. Overall - I am all for change and as I have said before - most Bills fans have been excited about uniform changes - including little things like the face mask color. You are confusing peoples dislike of this concept helmet with a dislike of change and that should not be the case. A blue helmet might work, but it will require a much better logo design than what is on here. The issue is the Logo works best as a blue Buffalo and although that looked nice on the original concept helmet - they blended together a bit. The Blue on that still looked 50x better than the white logo. Heck even the black helmet presented with the blue logo looks 100x better. It is not the change it is the design. Start there and work forward.

This is absolutely 100% wrong on multiple levels. 1st and top of list - if he was “not coming back” the Bills would of either IRd him prior to cuts or waived injured him like Duke. They wouldn’t be wasting a 53 man roster spot on him. They wouldn’t cut extra bodies they want and keep him on the active roster so they could injury settle him in 2 weeks. 2nd - most media and coaching staff that you hear from practice and when you watch games have been talking about how good he has been doing. The talk was how strong he has been at the point of attack. He and Zimmer were not competing because they play different roles. Phillips was competing for playing time with Star and how the team wants to use Butler. Phillips will be here for the season and although depending on the injury - he may start on the IR list - I would expect him to be back and be a big part of the D-line rotation on early downs. I also expect they will work to re-sign and keep him to allow Star to move on after this season.