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in that regard i understand more clearly what your saying. in my opinion a policy to force the sick into those facilities made no sense then, and none now which is why certain people were declaring they wanted investigations early last year and were ignored by those in the media, until now. there is a picture of a sheet on a overpass "cuomo killed my mother" as early as may. again this was incentivised! the nursing homes were used as quarantine facilities you speak of, which is the worst possible selection that anyone at any time regardless of situation could choose. if there was some proof that there was no other facility that would not accept 5000 dollars to house these people together then i guess he had no other choice, but i don't think that is true and his coverup may mean we may never know. to chalk this up to desperate times desperate measures or ignorance is a mistake. i have no professional understanding of viruses and without hindsight i could say that i questioned that decision, as did many others. i can't prove it but there is a basic level of understanding that was as dangerous as it gets when dealing with a pandemic that was obviously killing the elderly at high rates. when it comes to asymptomatic people allowed to go home this is different from the topic of forcing them into nursing homes. this is still the practice of today so advising them to stay away from vulnerable or offering a alternative, like the ship or center as temporary quarantine places for people with "one bathroom" ect ect SHOULD be the practice, regarless if they knew if it spreads. 5000 dollars pays for alot of options other then nursing homes regardless. you choose to expose a vulnerable family member thats on your conscience. no forcing, no "mah freedoms" and no hindsight required to keep people from spreading. but they FORCED people from OUTSIDE nursing homes to go there as well and the homes were happy to take the money sentancing those people to death. if you feel the decision was just another blunder in the large assortment during this pandemic your well articulated and we simply disagree. if you include his coverup in this argument, the media ignoring and the blocking of investigations then that's where we severely disagree.

i understand what your saying and get tough decisions have to be made but from the very beginning objective number 1 above all else should have been protect the vulnerable. even a common flu could be deadly to elderly so no new or extra info was needed to understand that introducing this to the elderly let alone FORCING by mandate was a not questionable mistake. it was a demented enforcement. not only that, they incentivized it by offering nursing homes $5000 dollars per person so young people were pushed in as well. id love to understand what lunatic science backed this decision.

but my scumbag is better then your scumbag! where i find a problem is republican scumbags are ousted by mainstream media routinley and the other scumbags have been ignored which is why this "new" story is so infuriating. this story was not a secret. it was well known and is only now being investigated. I'm actually shocked that the media is in unison condemning this. even cnn with the cuomo brothers comedy hour is reporting!? maybe this will be a turning point where both sides get the same scrutiny. im actually catching some good hard questions in the wh press room lately. hopefully this trend continues as there are loads of corruption and lies to expose on both sides.

so hes guilty? your judge jury and executioner on the matter of impeachment and anyone who doesn't see it your way does not have a conscience? we had a long discussion about democrats call to violence and the murder victims that resulted? have you reached a conscience on who you want to be held accountable yet? maybe i didnt make a good enough case in that thread. if you think trump is not going to pay a heavy price for what he's done then you haven't paid attention to the banks that no longer will do buisness with him. the contracts he's lost and everyone around him INCLUDING his legal team for the very impeachment you speak of abandoning (trying to) him. also lets not foget about democrats calling for "lists" to cancel, degrade and destroy anyone he has touched.. including simple supporters that had no part of insorrection. not good enough? this impeachment.. is the ultimate icing on the cake? maybe. but even if he was impeached i think he would still be used to deflect from any misdoings by the democratic party. i mean a police officer was killed..as were many this summer. a unarmed qanon woman was shot..same as a 8 year old little girl and HUNDREDS of innocent people living in abolish police zones. it can go back and forth but this thread is about cuomo. speaking of which, i think its odd you didnt touch any point about cuomo and the boat that sat empty. why. call him a evil POS that intentionally tryed to cover up his deplorable decision. its not hard. see when trump lied about covid the media was on him like locusts. how long did his lies last? im pretty sure his lies cost him the election as they were brought to light. but here we are a full year out of cuomos lies and they are just at the beginning phase of being revealed after recieving book deals, Emmy and accolades from his peers and those not paying attention. i remember those "quacks" at fox being the only media covering the story even as cuomo routinley blocked investigations. i also remember a lone banner hanging from a interstate say "cuomo killed my mother" last year in may. people in NY know. victims families knew it was a horrendous decision immediately. yet i guess that wasnt interesting to anyone in journalism to have a conscience, until of coarse, the objective was reached. theres a difference and if you dont start acknowledging it then your going to be lost in partisanship like those who defend trumps every decision. your no better..just different. why? because there is alot more to be revealed if journalist are willing to cover the other side with the same scrutiny as they covered trump. i promise this won't be the only evil that is uncovered and people defending those decisions.

its very rare to have someone simply agree that their side has done horrific things. most would rather divert the conversation and play a game of "whatabout" so i give him credit for going against what he formally believed and calling it what it is. that deserves respect. in this polarized world,if we all can do that society will be on the right track again.

i dont know. like i said he performed very well the year before with a aging frank gore. i think his elusiveness is a quality thats hard to replicate. speed is great but i didnt see him getting any openings that would have helped and if thats a factor i dont think moss is applying any afterburners Singletary lacks. i really dont know which direction the coaching staff would go but having a stud force that decision isnt the worst idea. i just think it can be had in other rounds or FA.

yeah i agree. im fighting it on this very message board. its hard to not come off as crazy with all the lies being told in unison but like you said their are still states fighting for freedom. noone even cares that riots are still happening nightly in portland but guess what. people are fleeing those places to the places you describe. people are tuning out the superbowl as they include more social justice then entertainment...low ratings. people are watching the cdc flipflop on thier rulings and news organizations describe everything as racist sexist ect ect. courts are now beginning to step in to defend the constitution..very slowly. newsomes recall is almost 1.5 million. the medias announcement of wall street bets being "radicals" or "russians" was laughed out of the room. it takes time to wake up..ironically from the wokeness but its happening. i wish it did not take some of the blatant atrocities but how long can the murder rates rack up innocent people before you say...abolishing police was pretty stupid. how long can you advocate censorship until it eliminates a voice you think is important? how long can you listen to lies before you seek truth. how long can you watch your children and community deteriorate and think your safer for it. unfortunatly the answer is a year and counting but each one of these things a few more are snapping out of it every day. when they do and their is a understanding who the real enemies are there will be a new understanding that we are not each others....i hope

i think you underestimate the pendulum. this country has routinley swung to the right and left. to much time in one direction sends it back in the other direction..case in point 8 years obama..then trump. if trump was more diplomatic and did not lean so far into the radicals side and republicans were less cowards to take on the true evident threats. ex section 230, fighting voting changes..which many of them passed.gutless. he def would have won. i think most people who aren't on twitter are tired of the constant wokeness. they also are growing pretty tired of the safety over rights that is taking place. biden is new and people see the vacine as a light at the end of the tunnel. if it goes to long where vacines are distributed but they are still locked down. biden shows himself for who he is a corrupt lifelong politician. the masses will not be compliable much longer. there will be a fast swingback and hopfully its for a populist that doesnt have the same shortcomings as trump. the new york times wrote that even france declared that the over reaching american social justice is damaging to society...and france is pretty left. that's my belief. the question you bring up is how many will not swing with it and continue to ignore the blatant censorship, lies and division to keep what is needed to amass enough power to succeed in a complete takeover. im worried to. just look at how many on here cheer it all on. but message boards are drops in the bucket to real life...thats what i hold hope for.

so who do you give up on? obviously that would be a upgrade but singletary seems good in spots and moss is just a rookie. both had thier spots and im not sure which one you push down so soon.

we also did well last year singletary had huge ypa, but we also seemed to use him very sparingly. maybe it is him but even moss was running into brick walls alot..only he could do alittle better to drag them for a few yards. i wouldnt hate the pick but i want the D to get playmakers again. we get the D back and our O is more then fine regardless of a nothing run scheme.

this seems like a lazy take. bills couldnt run. has to be the back! couldnt be the line or scheme. cover one did a good anaylisis and do to the constant shift in o line theres somthing our coaches just didn't like. it would be great to get a upgrade at any position but i dont see rb as a top need unless it bpa

what do you know of racism? im seriously asking. have you seen or felt it first hand? i grew up on the east side. i have alot of stories to tell on the matter. i also went to inner city schools on the metro straight into downtown. no nice yellow bus for me at my corner to take me directly to my schools front door. so just curious where your drawing your reference from on the topic seeing how it upsets you so much. what upsets me is its used so flippantly by these "journalists" and others that see it in harmless things. it should be mocked and discounted in these contexts EVERY SINGLE TIME and by EVERYONE yet, some are more then willing to allow others to water down the term (racism) until its unrecognizable. EVERYTHING is considered it now and you seem more then happy to allow it.

keep going alot more topics. those who are not zealots need voices to unplug from the mainstream narratives of hate. it wasnt to long ago where disagreement did not make you a enemy and simply saying i think this side represents me but i also agree with you that they are not doing the right thing here.

yeah ive seen that and was a big fan of Stewart. i miss him. im a big supporter of his fight for 911 workers. i didnt watch crossfire much. rising is different as its two moderate hosts together and they just present some stories from their takes. no major debates. no sensationalism and mostly agree on the foundation of the topic presented but at least you can hear some objections without the I'm absolutely right your wrong or demeaning attacks towards each other, besides towards the crazy op eds and media and corrupt government general rediculousness. here's just a random one. lots of daily topics. check it out and share if you think its ok. more views is the only thing that will change direction.

i like rising on youtube setup. a democrat, a republican both telling their side and GASP! calling out their own as well without bickering or name calling. its a pretty balanced show that emphasizes the people vs the corruption instead of trying to have us at each others throats constantly.

youz aint welcome in this here establishment. these is for us. we likes our segreegations. go somwhere else and be with yer own kind if youz wants that content of character not color of skin malarkey. sounds more symbiotic if you give a historical deep southern drawl to it.

nothing like promoting segregation to try and preserve those preconceived notions and stereotypes. they must stay intact otherwise how can you fight against them later. wouldn't want to force others to be uncomfortable when they discover everything they may have been told by people that look like them was a lie. lets protect that! its funny that people talk about being on the right side of history look the other way as institutions try to regress to the worst parts of it openly.

you know thats a excellent question. ill have to circle back on that one and answer that at a later time.

so i brought up numerous topics and examples in regards to censorship that should concern anyone, regardless of politics. the best you can do is to cut and paste a tweet that again, has nothing to do with the OP or censorship or anything i said. hand the phone back to dad. this discussion is obviously over your head and you have nothing of value to say.

"You know why they're still allowed - they haven't violated the terms and conditions agreed to." so this is why i brought up the tim pool discussion. they discuss these topics and how the TOS itself is biased towards a set view points where real debates and ideas are discriminatory towards one set. not by JUST there rules, but by thier implentation as well. the issues were discussed a year ago with them acknowledging as such. unfortunatly the same issues exist so they cannot even use the ignorance excuse. its on purpose. but as long as the biggest names are there. a condensed snipbit is here if the 3 hours is to much. so i gave a real world list of censorship that does not pertain to twitter but the examples are the very tip. you barley touched apon them. a book on negative implications of transgenderism in teenagers was called to be banned by the ACLU! as far as i know its a well researched book but admit i did not read it. ill repeat the CIVIL LIBERTY UNION wanted to silence someone's research on a topic. i guess parents should not be privy to the whole issue that might effect their children because there are no negatives to taking hormones and needing irriversable surguries. https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/16/aclu-chase-strangio-abigail-shrier-transgenderism-book-target-amazon/ ill skip ahead. calling for the firing of opinion editor for allowing a conservative to have a opinion is different, but unlike others ill explain why, firing a REPORTER that is exhibiting bias is a necessity we sorely lack today. i took a semester in media literacy in college. what was pounded in my head was a professionalism that is long gone. journalistic ethics and standards. its like a terms of service if you wish to be a good journalist. the new york time claims to be fair and unbiased unlike many other outlets that have specific slants. so out of these two people who were fired who violated these ethics? why are supposedly unbiased news organizations rallying to fire people simply for platforming specific viewpoints? why did they fire him? what was his mistake? disrupting the echo chamber? seems so. bari weiss made it pretty clear what was happening and IS happening in many other industries as well. groupthink that is intolerant of any opposition. read for yourself https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter the real world doesn't follow twitter TOS guidelines but it certainly seems to applaud censorship and cancelling just the same.

well thats debatable. i dont tweet but there have been plenty of people accusing that has happened. a good point brought up by tim pool talking with dorsey on joe rogan..another ALT RIGHT person who has continuously been attacked and averted attempts of censorship (i suggest you watch to get another point of view). so the most influencial voices arent being silenced? books have been banned from selling for pointing out some of the negatives of transgenderism in teenagers.ben shapiro..a pretty moderate conservative is being mobbed to remove a write up from politico. POLITICO! a publication made to discuss poitics. the new york times staff was appalled to have a OPINION piece by a sitting senator due to him advocating using federal troops to maintain order in portland.. then we have 20000 used to maintain order for the inauguration. yaay! the opinion editor was FIRED! bet they won't make that agregious mistake again. its been far beyond twitter for awhile. like i said calls for violence should be stopped but this isnt that and its swinging left as well. this is road NOONE should be advicating. used to? no...i do now and always. but yeah that was our jist.

thats easy to say when you dont pay attention. the one sided banning was going on long before trump. the fact they deleted trump but allow many other dictators to spew hatred to stay just brought the hypocracy to the front page so you can read the headlines. which is all i think you read.

um ok. good to know. did they switch it to the patriot party lol? not sure what your saying? this topic is about censorship and companies removing a political party that simply have a different view point by using the insurrection. im a old school democrat. we used to believe in human rights and that includes freedom of speech. we weren't afraid of debate. we fought for workers rights and were against multinational corporations working in tandem with our government ( see occupy wallstreet ). so when i see giant technology companies systematically eliminating conservative voices WORKING IN TADEM WITH THE GOVERNMENT for no other reason then they disagree..its dangerous and a complete 180 from what i stand for. break the law or call for violence fine. censor just cause they are conservative...yeah, not cheering that $#/+ on. maybe im passed my time but freedom of speach is not a fad.

k. good talk.

i don't like to generalize and am interested in clarity which is why im asking questions. if a terms of service was broken id like to read about it, or if the organization was committing criminal activity, I'd also like to hear it. no i think it was pretty dumb not to bake a cake based only on somones sexual prefrances. money is money and a cake is a cake. are you using this to deflect from the questions i asked? not sure what the two have to do with each other? a tos is offered for one that i haven't heard was broken