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Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
imagine the 15 year old kids on that 4chan thread knowing that their prank caught on like wildfire. they are probably pissing their pants cracking up between bong tokes daily. the source of where that started has been known for YEARS! yes, some supremists groups have picked it up do simply to its absurdity but there are so many people who have nothing to do with supremacy of any kind basically "lets go brandoning" the gesture simply because they are mocking the the left cluelessness on it and love watching them lose their s#it over something that wasn't even a thing until 4chan and thier media decided, hey lets run with that. obamas is ok. bidens is ok. hey is that someone we disagree with doing it? um yeah, that ones HATE! if there was a singular topic to show how blissfully unaware and how easy it is to program a people in our society ..this ranks pretty high. the fact its now being declared a hate symbol by the federal gov..WOW. but they are looking to fire people for lets go brandon too so i guess its not suprising. 🤷♂️ -
Combating imaginary racism with actual racism??
Buffarukus replied to Unforgiven's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
when are these dolts going to declare ENGLISH as some form of supremist bs so no one has to listen or read about this nonsense anymore. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
he can still sue you for slander/lies/ and voter intimidation. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Buffarukus replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
you have to wait for the corporate media cycle to declare it in unison. otherwise its misinformation. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Buffarukus replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
so is any of this adjacent to natural immunity? any of this included with monoclonal antibodies, vitamins, excercise, age, horse paste or a s#it ton of other therapeutics or determining factors of severity. interesting that it takes so long to get proper studies in the same time that a vax, sorry THREE vaxes . have been created, tested, distributed *cough* i mean mandated and pronounced 100% safe. now we also have a pill, by the same company. amazing how big pharma and phizer in particular has such remarkable..marketability. incredably precise definitive answers along with top notch state approved testing procedures that none of the other things i mentioned do. " maybe there will be more ways to address this. It's a pandemic--not like we have a lot of data points to accurately predict the end points." ever think we do have alot of data points seeing as there are millions test subjects to base it on and 2 year time frame to make them and they are simply suppressed to the public? if you dig deep you will find some answers from independent scientists but just never seems to make its way to the top of the science chain to give any overwhelming approval or exemptions? so just keep on jabbin it up until that day comes because what else could there possibly be on this planet? "its the best thing to do!" 🤔 -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
i never called you a bad citizen. i said staying safe is a good option. there were many others out that day that had weopons trying to do what kyle intended. did they protect anyones life or property? not making headline news as they did not run into a rosenbaum who chased them down. i guess the question is where did kyle get isolated? that was the biggest determining factor in the situation as they must have seen him as weak. you can use better judgment looking at the exact situation in reverse and you would actually be advocating for peace and non violence. if a guy with a gun is stopping you from destroying things and committing violent acts should you threaten them? continue to destroy? chase them and try and take the weopon? should ROSENBAUM have left? crazy how all the duty to retreat was on the person who was NOT committing criminal acts. again never said he was a "bigger hero then you" simply someone who did something other then shelter in place and hope the destruction did not effect his community or family. he was stupid and so were the rioters. i think there is equal blame and it all falls on elected officials for creating a situation in which that happened. but lets not act that sheltering in place and (not provoking) would save you from the exact same scrutiny and jail time that kyle is facing and demonized for. not ironic the states key witness was a felon carring a firearm with a pending dui charge and not being prosecuted for the same dumb decision, into the same situation you are stating. here is one of many stories from the summer. a man committed suicide after defending his life and buisness! this after pleading and firing a warning shot as the attack was happening. rioter still tryed choking him out. given the exact same treatment kyle got in the media until the venom and despair of possible longterm jailtime became to much. https://www.courthousenews.com/family-of-omaha-bar-owner-charged-in-protesters-death-claim-he-was-denied-due-process/ i can pull many more sad stories and many more videos of citizens who were mercilessly attacked or killed with no way to defend themselves. DO NOT PROTECT YOURSELF BECOME A VICTIM OR YOU WILL BE PROSECUTED. i hit on these points above. i agree with this, reasonable questions. i am glad you are against the violence. there are more hypocrites then you realize, even if we don't fall in that category. i think people that are against violence need to stop being partisan and uniformly state as such. they are advocating for it again if the trial goes a certain direction which will only lead to more situations like this we can disagree on. maybe we come together to unifyingly denounce any violence. which ever side reacts to the verdict. only by being as loud as the extremist and demand it stop before it starts we can stop the chicken before any eggs are hatched. 😏 -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
so instead of putting yourself in the position to answer the questions directly you decide to change everything so you dont have to. lets start with provokes. your disapointing me. you HAVE watched the videos to know what he did to provoke..right? he put out a burning dumpster that was being pushed towards a gas station. if that gas station exploded and hurt or killed..oh well stupid games right. aka who cares. second stay away. i mean dont do anything when your town is in flames. i mean its not like your father lives there. regardless its well known he was there to help.. THE PROTESTERS as well. he was trying to mitigate destruction and offered med support to ANYONE who needed it. its good for you that you would elect to be safe and cozy as everything you care for where you live is destroyed. thats a very good option. its a shame our gov leaders felt the same to the point where citizens had to be the ones to try and stop it. it was a dumb decision, i agree but more because kyle failed to realize that he, not the rioters, would be considered the enemy of the state and ALOT people that simply refuse to distinguish the difference between peaceful unrest and violent criminals..hypocracy as you put it. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
i kind of figured it get to the chicken egg portion. no one dies that day if people in the town werent destroying it as well. unfortunatly for your narrative plenty of people died well before a 17 year old doing somthing stupid that day showing pretty clear evidence that rioting is pretty deadly on its own merits. i can guarentee every one of the murder victims or there families that were with them wishes they were as stupid as this kid so they at least had a chance to defend themselves over the coarse of the year leading up to kinosha and beyond. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
he would have laid his weopon down because he wasnt surrounded by threats. people were shooting all around before and after he shot rosenbaum. make it personal. your sister is in a dark parking lot and a group that are committing crimes at the store she is ar. she says please stop doing that in which one of them says shutup ill kill you. he then directs attention directly towards her and chases her. do you hope she has a gun? at what point should she use it? if she uses it at a appropriate time should she now drop it? is she a active shooter and should be chased by the mob that was with the person she shot. they are threatening her as she flees towards police, punching her in the head, trying to stomp her and swinging weopons at her. now what should she do? shes not wearing a uniform and hopefully has not taken your advice to drop her weopon or been determined to be a threat to be terminated by any with their own firearms as being your definition of active direct threat. im 100% sure you would hope she did everything kyle did to save her life. you just wont say it because the outcome of a 17 year old you dont know doesnt effect you like it would a family member. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
it may be my fault as i have a bad habit of reading my post and adding context in a edit -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
no your completely overlooking my direct threat and running TOWARDS THE POLICE. if you think you should chase down a gunman knowing nothing about the situation whatever the intentions while hes not pointing a weopon at you or acting hostile in any form while trying to run away from you towards the cops then you will not be in this world long my friend. your discounting a ton of important details to slide in your perspective as if this was some active shooter posing threats to everyone around with no options. every single person kyle shot was posing a direct threat on his life. simply defending his life does not make him a "active shooter" as noone would have been shot had they not attacked HIM. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
id honestly say no. he was not posing a direct threat to them and they had no clue on the situation that lead to the shooting. the police were right down the street and he was running away towards the police not even looking at them. they were against the police and simply wanted to deal street justice in which case they tryed, honestly to do without directly killing him. again poor decisions to try to unarmed a person with skateboards. what would have happened if he was disarmed? held him until the cops....he was running towards got there? i dont know but people were saying cranium him and guns were being shot not by kyle as the chased him. thats a fed up scene all the way around. take cover and call the cops. sorry i may have answered the wrong question. can people shoot somone who shot those that chased him down and attacked him? after? no same response. no direct threat in any way as was shown when they left him alone he went peacfully to the cops..the exact same thing would have happened imo if they didnt attack him when he first started down the street the cops were ON. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
if thats what went down then i have to believe you as i have not looked into it myself. the fact this is a high profile case that is VERY important when it comes to self defense i say all around its been treated as some sat afternoon jay walking charge. id like to switch the subject. was this self defense in simple yes no terms? if no at what point did it become something else because it seems kyle is condemned from the get go based on simply bringing a gun but the ENTIRE day he was trying to help people on BOTH sides, yet has been portrayed as a BLM obstruction. he was a violence obstruction. which everyone should be behind. unfortunately that is what brought about more violence on him and he had no choice but have a unforeseen outcome of violence on him or give it back when there were no alternatives. its extremely clear. i think there are too many people that look at outcomes and say this or that should have been done having the godly power of hindsight to guide them but ONLY at the point where they see contention, never before. if kyle allows his gun to be taken away hes just another dead kid from last year and no one would know his story or care like so many others that died. that doesnt include the countless beaten to a pulp that had no gun, 17 or older. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
ok so i read your full response. ill have to look into the exact law as its was dictated. it should just be done this trial is a clown car riding off the cliff. not sequestering the jury when you KNOW there will be issues with intimidation alone is grounds -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
i added to mine to. the judge read the law word for word and then it came down to barrel length. judges make poor calls sure i can name numerous i feel in this case in the other direction..which is why mistrial against the prosecution is a real possibility as he is letting alot of stuff go. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
the last question was barrel length. im guessing because you dont want anything concealable in the context of the law. im not saying its a good idea to have 17 yr olds allowed to carry loaded rifles but its not my town. i also dont think allowing 900 dollars in theft should not be prosecuted like in san fran ect ect ect. regardless its on the books as legal. it their town. but what is illegal is destroying buisnesses attacking police. ect ect ect. but noone seems concerned on that part so again you seem to cherry pick what you think should be illegal, prosecuted we should start there...no? -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
im not sure on the Wisconsin law. what i or you feel about it they read it and it was obvious to drop it. from what i understand it had to do with barrel length not hunting. if you live in Wisconsin then you can work within the framework to change the law but regardless what you and i say its what's on the books. you also cannot start fires and there were plenty of more weopons there then kyles including a pistol fired in the air first just a kyle was being chased and later pulled to stop him so lets not cherry pick to hard on weopontry that shouldn't be in the streets. he went directly towards the police with his hands up without confronting or talking directly to anyone else. they attacked him, he kept running, they got him on the ground where the next incidents happen. when he cleared threats he continued to police with his hands raised. police told him to get out of the way because of the chaos. he turned himself in the next morning. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
people seem to forget that as kyle was being chased by a guy who threatened him a gunmen shot into the air right behind him. so your running from a guy who threatened you. your screaming friendly!, friendly!, friendly!and then a gunshot rings out. no idea who or where. you turn and the guy is going for your only protection at what point can you, in fact, protect yourself? at any point is rosenbaum or any of the others under the same duty to retreat and not escalate? -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
after the first encounter he told the camera person and everyone who would listen he was going to the police to turn himself in. they were engaged in a ideological "protest" that prevented them from doing the proper thing. trying to "cranium" a person instead of allowing him to get to police directly down the street as he ran AWAY from them not subjecting anyone to any threats or intimidation on the way. have you watched the full videos that have been out for months because texting the whole incident is repetitive especially when multi videos angles eye witness accounts are all on record. lastly the gun charge was dropped by the prosecution. hunting exemption, barrel size. it was dismissed in court. -
im paying close to 4 dollars in gas. have friends devising ways to home school so they dont have to pump vax in there kids and am reading about a anime meme and the possable trauma it may have caused millionaires that aint doing sh/÷ about any of it. please get this off the first page so real discussions can be had.
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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Buffarukus replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
you seem like you have a good grasp of the science and not a ideologue. good news we need people to seperate the bullsh*+. i been watching this guy on and off. its who way back last year produced documented studies natural immunity showed great results showing protection was looking robust for at the very least 5 years. here is another based on "horse paste" being VERY effective for what it is used for. at $.06 a pill it makes alot of sense why it is demonized. the same sense on why natural immunity is quickly discounted. any opinions on what he is saying or the studies he is presenting..before it vanishes that is. -
Domestic terrorist attack in Wisconsin
Buffarukus replied to Penfield45's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
wasnt to long ago that this country was in agreement that a pedophile was one of the absolute worst creatures on this planet now that fact is absolutely glossed over and forgiven in the narrative. wasnt to long ago that this country was in agreement that a pedophile that was released from a mental institution should under NO circumstances be allowed to obtain a firearm yet now we have people that think that one should have been simply handed over to that same person that was already engaging in violence. if it was handed over and people were shot or the gas station exploded those same people would completely ignore the victims as they did with the countless others made all year long. wasn't long ago that people demanding justice also would not overlook the countless laws broken that night including the exact same charge of illegally carrying a firearm for starters, they are demanding. the irony that the 2 other shootings could have been avoided if the police were not dealing with a city on fire. if the rioters did not try to take justice into their own hands nothing more would have happened. the hypocracy is thick with the point that THIS IS WHY POLICE ARE NEEDED! -
Bi-Partisan Infrastructure Deal!
Buffarukus replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
your mitigating the major issues we are facing and that "eventually" someone, the other side, will draw the proper attention to lies and corruption. i use attention because that seems to be mostly the level of punishment that corruption gets. jail time? yeah possable for the lower useful idiots more then likley idiot (singular) that can be thrown under the bus if/when perception of the media sways. the problem that most arent paying attention to is that the media mainly protects the left. like afganistan the left has to do things so obvious that it is impossible to ignore. that's when it gets general attention. i guess pouring over the border doesn't count? 🤷♂️ the right on the other hand is under constant scrutiny and faces a slant even in just the way the stories are framed. florida is impementing anti-vax, not personal freedom laws. thats still the framing even as it touts the lowest outbreaks in the nation. georgia is implementing voter suppression laws, not voter security. the list goes on and on. its why lets go brandon has caught on because people see the slant and obvious media coverups and are tired of it. i guess thats off topic but pertains to the one day everyone will see but why it is never seen NOW before damage is done. at least when dems are implementing it. look at the narratives dropped. black lives no longer matter? no more showing of food lines with eviction lifted and inflation rampant? asian hate dropped as soon as the supremist story fell apart..list goes on. these people never cared at all about these issues that consumed the news nightly. so im sorry but looking at the bill as "its going to build new roads" is how its sold, as most bills the good always covers up the waste. people willing to scrutinize how a trillion of dollars will be spent even if they are wrong are much more important then those that look at the bill at face value and say hey if they are steeling our money eventually someone will figure it out in my humble opinion.regardless which side is pushing it through. maybe i have my own bias but try to look at both angles best i can. my standard for being bipartisan is to hold power accountable and demand equal scrutiny regardless which side that may be. since the media "far outside the joy reids" only seems to frame one side as the enemy. obama passed a infrastructure bill that was suppose to create tons of jobs..never happened. hear anything about that? while anything else not endorsed by major media is immediately determined as alt right misinformation, missing context that is under threat of censorship, we are in a very bad spot when it comes to unification. theres always a convienent narrative to divide that. -
Bi-Partisan Infrastructure Deal!
Buffarukus replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
just curious to why you would think this when up until this point every other piece of evidence that has involved the bidens corruption has been censored and covered up on a massive scale? the buisnesses meetings, the firing of prosecutor for funds, the laptop, shared bank account, buisness partner whistle blower. now i say its hyperbolic to auto assume that funds will def end up this way but its also insane to hold out a shred of hope that any corruption will be investigated let alone prosecuted in the current atmosphere. if recent history has taught us anything. -
the whole wr group seems to be having some issue. beasley explodes last game. the excuse for davis touches was knox emergence. sanders is the only one who has had consistant all season at least when in comes to targets. our O as a whole when it comes to distribution has been pretty head scratching. we are either playing very elite lockdown cbs that are stopping what worked last year or there is a scheme issue we cant fig out.