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Man... this thread reminds me so much of the thread when we drafted Allen. I say that being one of the posters adamantly against drafting Allen. I think Coleman proves everyone wrong. Does this look like a guy who lacks in-game athleticism?

It's okay Hap. I'm with you... and unlike Josh Allen, I can legitimately say I liked Coleman and didn't understand the hate before the draft. That said, I am also nervous.

Probably posted already, but if not...

@HappyDays seemed to really have a premonition with all his Coleman talk today. Going back to my first view of him, I really liked him. He was kind of an odd faller. Seems like he would have been a mid 1st round pick if not for his 40 time. All this talk of him being like Kelvin Benjamin is ridiculous. Watch him return punts for the Seminoles. Plus there's the gauntlet drill. Buffalo clearly coveted this guy and knew he'd fall a bit. Perfect fit in the sense that we don't have anyone like him.

I'm low key on the Coleman train myself. I really feel like his 40 time was just a horrible grenade that exploded his offseason. He just doesn't look that slow. And I was super impressed with his YAC ability. I feel the same way about Franklin in terms of how unwarranted their precipitous fall after the Combine was. I wonder if the Bills trade back a fee again just because they view 4 or 5 WRs with the same grade. I would be really surprised if we didn't pick WR with our next pick, though. As high as the draft world is on guys like Newton and DeJean, we just passed on them twice.

Oooohhhh thanks for this. Forgot about Coleman. I think he absolutely might be our pick

I know Mitchell is the obvious projection, but I think we'll draft McConkey.

And you are aware that those sites are incredibly inaccurate, right? Please see tonight for reference

2 rookie classes? What are you talking about? There's only one rookie class every year. Where on earth are you getting your numbers. Right now the Bills are about $3m under and then get $10m more on June 1st. I don't know if you're counting our cap money this year towards next year, but if you are you're even off with those numbers.

I posted the roster because I think it just shows that our only truly GAPING hole is at WR.

Fill out the WR corps with a 1st round pick and a guy like Javon Baker in the later rounds and get us a short yardage back like Estime and it's a 12+ win team.

And our 1st this year, obviously.

So... let's see how our roster improves starting tonight. I said I think the Bills will be better this upcoming season... I still think they will. As of this moment, just hours before the draft, this is how I view the Buffalo Bills roster at the moment. And yes, we can field a 53 man team that consists of zero guys I'd strictly put in the "Practice Squad" category. LOCKS (1st-5th round rookies included) Close to locks Baseline rosterable depth Players the team seems somehow invested in Rookie 6th or 7th round pick STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH QB Josh Allen Mitchell Trubisky Shane Buechele RB James Cook Ty Johnson Ray Davis Darrynton Evans- WR Khalil Shakir Justin Shorter Tyrell Shavers WR Curtis Samuel Andy Isabella Bryan Thompson WR Keon Coleman Mack Hollins KJ Hamler TE Dalton Kincaid Dawson Knox Quintin Morris Tre' McKitty FB Reggie Gilliam LT Dion Dawkins Ryan Van Demark Travis Clayton Richard Gouraige LG David Edwards Alec Anderson C Connor McGovern Will Clapp RG O'Cyrus Torrence Sedrick Van Pran-Granger Kevin Jarvis RT Spencer Brown La'el Collins. Tylan Grable Tommy Doyle STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH LDE Greg Rousseau Javon Soloman Kameron Cline LDT DaQuan Jones Austin Johnson Eli Ankou RDT Ed Oliver DeWayne Carter. DeShawn Williams RDE Von Miller AJ Epenesa Casey Toohill Kingsley Jonathan WLB Matt Milano Edefuan Ulufoshio MLB Terrel Bernard Baylon Spector SLB Nicholas Morrow Dorian Williams LCB Rasul Douglas Kaiir Elam Kyron Brown SS Cole Bishop Taylor Rapp Kendall Williamson FS Mike Edwards Cam Lewis Damar Hamlin RCB Christian Benford Taron Johnson Daequan Hardy Ja'Marcus Ingram STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH PK Tyler Bass P Sam Martin Matt Haack H Sam Martin Matt Haack PR Khalil Shakir KR Khalil Shakir Andy Isabella LS Reid Ferguson 53 man roster 34 LOCKS 10 close to locks 4 baseline rosterable depth 5 Players the team seems somehow invested in *EDITED POST DRAFT... UDFAs not included*

Rome Odunze

First of all, Buffalo didn't restructure Allen's entire contract this offseason because they're pushing it into next offseason. I think that's about an additional $8m. Then there's the fact that we have Von Miller's contract still on the books next season, but once we cut him (like most project we will), we save a bunch of CAP space.

I'll be excited but nervous about him. He excites me as a player. He doesn't sound like the same type of "process" Buffalo Bills guy the other 2 guys are. With Diggs gone, I want the most team first Elite WR we can get.

I'm really tired of this narrative. What I'll say about a WR corps is that I don't believe it's just that it's a sum of all its parts. Buffalo has had so much success in the passing game since 2020 because of Stefon Diggs. Davis, McKenzie, Beasely, & Shakir have all benefitted over the years in their production largely because of his presence. Cincy has had so much success over the last few years because of Jamarr Chase. Higgins & Boyd benefitted from his presence. KC was so successful for years because of 2 HOF pass catching monsters and maybe one of the most talented and unique WRs (even though he's a head case) in NFL history in Hill. Sure... KC won the Super Bowl the last couple years, but their offense very obviously took a massive step backwards. This team runs through Josh Allen, period. Give him the best weapons possible. That might not be an Odunze in a massive trade up. It might be BTJr or Legette or Worthy... but honestly... if this team isn't looking for whoever they believe "their guy" is at WR in round 1, tonight is a massive letdown. Buffalo has 10 picks in this draft and is forecasted to have 9 picks next year. Our roster this year is honestly already at the point where there's absolutely no way 10 or even 9 or 8 draft picks make this team. Trade up! Trade up! Trade up!!!!!

True Shocker: Marvin Harrison Jr. Realistic Shocker: Rome Odunze

I would be both excited and nervous if we traded up for BTJ. Honestly though... I'd be both excited and nervous for almost any WR we draft in any round simply because of the inevitable pressure on them to immediately step in and produce. However, I would be just excited if we traded up for Odunze. For some reason he's the only one where it's just excitement. Some nerves would creep back in even if we traded up for Nabers, even though I know he might have the highest ceiling in the draft. I'm not even thinking about MHJ. Absolutely not true with Joe Marino.

No we aren't... our salary cap situation is at its lowest this offseason and will get significantly better from here on out. He played QB as a Senior

You're using the Senior Bowl as a measuring stick? He played in the SEC and destroyed his competition at South Carolina in 2023. The one-year-wonder conversation is more nuanced. There were a lot of circumstances involved with that, including a late shift to the position and a motorcycle accident, among other things. I'm not advocating a trade up. But I'd be happy with him at 28.

Can I ask you guys why you think Xavier Leggette is so clearly not a 1st rounder?

Yeah, I listened this morning thinking he'd go through the players, but he didn't. Still, it was good to listen to it first and then look at the document to view all the players themselves. @GunnerBill also has Leggette as his 4th WR, from what I can remember. Plus, there's been a lot of talk among the media that Leggette could slip into round 1. What that likely means is that while the national media has one perspective on him, NFL teams have another.

You can watch the episode with his explanation of it here, but right below the video I posted the link to his Google Doc that shows both his horizontal and vertical draft boards. As he says in the video, the horizontal one may be most interesting and relevant because it breaks players down into tiers.: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6y5YK7S5pN8WgqF5t6qJSvpyQsA44hDkts8hPHDDSs/htmlview# He only did 170 players this year because he only had 5 months to do it, unlike previous years where he does it year round. Might be a good tool to look at on draft night.