transplantbillsfan

Yep. It is Yep. I did. And the WRs that most let the team down in that KC game are no longer on the team.

First of all, Kansas City had the ball last, not Buffalo. On Buffalo's last drive Diggs dropped a bomb from Allen that would have been a GW TD or at least the go-ahead score. Despite that, the offense was still productive enough to move all the way into the red zone, and if not for Dawkins getting mauled by Chris Jones, Allen throws the go-ahead TD to Shakir. But he still got us into game tying territory if not for Bass having the Yips last year. As for all the other stuff you said, this was a thread about the offense, not the defense or how far the team advances in the playoffs. That's for other threads. I just said that our offense this year will be better if Shakir and Kincaid progress, which I think they will.

I agree with the Center downgrade, though we'll know when the season starts. Reports are that the snapping issues have gone away so maybe they just needed to feel eachother out. Edwards very well might actually be an upgrade over McGovern. Remember he started the position with a Super Bowl winning team and played for Kromer. Dude, if Shakir tops 1000 yards and Samuel has the best year of his career, this offense will be FIYAH!!!! I really think you're overvaluing Gabe. Even Diggs pulled a disappearing act after Brady took over.

The Bills offense isn't what's prevented Buffalo from advancing in the playoffs. Actually, the offense had one of its best games in the divisional round against KC when Gabe was out and Diggs was MIA.

Allen is the only QB in the NFL comparable to Mahomes. It's not misguided Joe Marino. I know Dane Brugler said it but I couldn't pull up the Beast from that year. Here's a quote from Daniel Jeremiah on him: Enough good can equal great. While Shakir does not stand out in any one area, the Boise State receiver meets every baseline when it comes to his size, athleticism and college production. That's 5. I'm sorry. With all due respect, those guys have more scouting credibility than you.

And we replaced Gabe with 2 guys who have those same strengths and better hands.

I started to type something, but realized there's only one appropriate response: Touche... And he might at that. But the 2 of them almost certainly will in their production All those other teams don't have Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021509-khalil-shakir-nfl-draft-2022-scouting-report-for-boise-state-wr POSITIVES — Good route-runner who can operate from the slot and outside. Consistently gets his depth and understands how to use leverage to win. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Khalil-Shakir-WR-BoiseState Scouting Report: Strengths -Knows how to beet press corners with leverage and excellent foot speed -Provides a good element of versatility - played both in the slot and outside -Often used on deep routes, getting separation down the sideline or over the middle on crossing routes by extending his arms rather than pure speed These are just a couple, but plenty of film buffs who watch the film agree Shakir can be an effective outside WR. Ironically enough, much of his scouting report resembles Diggs's scouting report coming out of college, when most felt he could play either inside or outside, but would be most effective on the inside in the NFL.

RBs 2023 Cook, aging Murray, Ty Johnson picked up as season starts RBs 2024 Cook, Davis, Ty Johnson with a year in the system 2024>>>2023 OL 2023 Dion, McGovern, Morse, Cybo (rookie), Brown OL 2024 Dion, Edwards, McGovern, Cybo, Brown 2024<<<<2023 I'm putting this all on the question mark that McGovern is at Center and Edwards is at Guard. Cybo at RG should be pretty awesome this year. Dawkins should be his usual reliable self. Brown is playing for a contract. There's a pretty good chance this group this year is better, but it's just unknown right now. TEs 2023 Kincaid (rookie), Knox (injured), Morris TEs 2024 Kincaid (year 2 & a focal point), Knox (healthy... hopefully), Morris &/or Davidson 2024>>>>>2023 WRs 2023 Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Sherfield, Harty WRs 2024 Shakir, Samuel, Coleman, Holins, ????????? 2024=====2023 I would argue 2024 is better, but benefit of the doubt they're equal until we see it. I mean... I get that Diggs was Elite & Davis was productive, but Samuel has been a more productive player (when healthy) over the course of his career. And if Shakir was the #3 last year and it's Coleman/Hollins we're considering as replaced production... I don't know who really things the 2 of them can't outproduce what Shakir did together. Who knows about WR #5, but seems inconsequential. Diggs >> Shakir Davis <<< Samuel Shakir << Hollins/Coleman Far, far less talent? You're being hyperbolic.

Did I say that? I absolutely don't believe that and didn't say it.

Shakir can play on the outside, too.

You disagree that Ty Johnson in year 2 and Ray Davis are an upgrade over Ty Johnson we acquired as the season started and 33 year old Latavius Murray who fell apart throughout the season? I think I said Samuel who would be our #2 WR would be the upgrade over Gabe who was our #2. But as for Hollins, look who was throwing him the ball over the span of his career. He's also potentially our #4 WR. WRs 1-4 this year >>>> WRs 1-4 last year.

Shakir is a 4.4 WR. He has the speed and skill to play on the outside. He's not just a slot WR. Multiple scouts and film buffs have pointed this out.

Josh Allen needs to take a step forward from what has already been pretty much a HOF career? Really? I just don't care about MVS. I was actually a bit terrified of him being a relatively significant part of our offense. If Hamler makes the team he can accomplish the speed threat portion that MVS was brought in for along with being an actual Special Teams contributor Seriously? Are you just being difficult? It's implicit that when I say "in 2024" I mean "than 2023." Better in 2024 than it was in 2023.

Khalil Shakir & Dalton Kincaid I can't believe the attitude around here. This is unreal. OL is same minus Morse plus McGovern at Center and Edwards at Guard. Possibly a downgrade at Center but I actually think Edwards is a better Guard. RB upgrade by a lot. Ty Johnson for the full year at RB3. Ray Davis upgrade over Murray. Cook... let's just hope he fixed his hands. WRs... well... what do we say? Diggs was All Pro 1st half last season but Houdini in the 2nd half. Gabe was just not very good... in fact I think he was largely responsible for our passing woes and multiple turnovers. Sherfield & Harty... really??? It might not even be Coleman who upgrades over Davis. It might be Hollins. But then one of those 2 has to upgrade on Sherf... oh yeah... there's still Curtis Samuel. Turf toe sounds like it's just been there for him and he's already played with it. Sounds like Shakir is ready to explode. Anyone like me planning on grabbing him in fantasy? Last we have Kincaid. It's weirdly the most talked about yet most underrated aspect of the 2024 Bills. Everyone believes he's about to get 100+ targets at least, right? Well... if we think Chiefs formula, how do you prefer MVS, JuJu, Pacheco, CEH, & Kelce over Shakir, Samuel, Cook, Davis & Kincaid? That's without Coleman & Hollins, obviously. That was the crew Mahomes won league MVP with while putting up gaudy numbers after losing Tyreek Hill. I'm sorry. Lots of questions this year. But I'm more excited about this season with the "good vibes" than is apparently reasonable. Injuries suck, but they're happening early. And every team gets them

That's weird. This is the most interesting Bills team in years.

Just for reference, Milano ran a 4.67 to Andreeson's 4.65 40 yard dash. Milano had a 35 inch vertical to Andreeson's 38 inch vertical. Milano had a 10.6 inch broad jump to Andreeson's 10.2 inch jump. Milano benched 24 reps to Andreeson's 32. Milano weighed 223 lbs to Andreeson's 240 lbs.

Not reading all replies, but the concensus is that Andreeson is pretty darn impressive, right?

Is anyone else outside the WNY area tuned into NFL Network expecting the scheduled Bills game but seeing a Barry Sanders documentary?

-The Buffalo Bills have the #1 offense in the NFL -Von Miller gets double digit sacks -Khalil Shakir puts himself into "Elite WR" discussion -Josh Allen wins league & Super Bowl MVP

We have Josh Allen. The answer is yes

Shavers also dropped a pass on Saturday

Nope, but that means he's not taking steps back, unlike... Hamler dropped a pass and muffed a kickoff. The latter is his ticket on this team and you know how McDermott loves his Special Teams. MVS furthered his reputation as he dropped an absolute gimme of a pass yesterday (can we just call him Clifford Franklin???)... plus he doesn't play Special Teams, unlike Claypool.

Did anyone mention the 2 most obvious winners from yesterday? I'm guessing yes... but I don't want to look through 10 pages, so just in case: 1) McDermott hiring John Perry to take care of challenges. Won both and neither looked from the broadcast like they should have been challenged. 2) Chase Claypool. If he can get healthy is there a single fan who prefers MVS over him??? Plus Hamler and Shavers didn't do themselves any favors yesterday with drops. I hope he can get on the field this week. I'm starting to prefer Isabella over MVS and maybe Hamler if it came down to it.