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https://www.nfl.com/schedules/sunday-night-football/ https://www.nfl.com/schedules/monday-night-football/ I just looked at both... kinda surprised how bad SNF is compared to MNF for once.

I scrolled through and was expecting someone else to post about this, but no one did... guess I will... I understand the skepticism and criticism of Cine flaming out after having a healthy year last year, but Joe Marino on Locked on Bills covered the Cine signing on his podcast this morning. He said tthat it was primarily a "fit" thing for Cine with the Vikings. Guess who the Vikings Flores as of February 2023?????? Brian Flores Now... first of all, there's the issue that Cine was drafted in 2022 with whatever D the Vikings at the time had in mind. He had a lost year due to his injury. In comes Flores in 2023 for Cine's de facto rookie year. Apparently (I'm going by what Joe Marino said in his podcast), Flores runs a hyper aggressively unique defense to the NFL that's really blitz heavy and Cine isn't the best Safety fit in that system. Also--and I think this is Marino making an educated guess, but it would make sense based off recent history--it sounds like there may have just been some general friction between Cine and Flores. Would that surprise anyone with the way he handled Tua? So I think people looking at this signing with anything other than optimism really confuses me. This is especially considering McDermott's success working with secondary players, especially Safeties... You guys already mentioned Poyer and Hyde. He's had success working with Safeties going all the way back to Philadelphia, though. Quinten Mikell (Philadelphia) and Kurt Coleman (Carolina) became Pro Bowl Safeties under McDermott at a time when the Pro Bowl meant a little something. Mike Mitchell (Carolina) went to Carolina in 2013 from Oakland on a 1 year contract worth 1 million dollars and had his best year in the NFL by far under McDermott as DC, helping him to get a 5 year, $25 million deal with the Steelers, where he never matched that success or even came close to it. Those 3 guys are Safeties. There's also, of course, Josh Norman and his development into being an All-Pro and Defensive Player of the Year candidate in 2015. I understand questioning McDermott on a lot of things. He's done pretty darn well earning the benefit of the doubt as far as secondary development. It's fine to be excited about seeing what Cine can turn into under our HC. I am.

When and how did Hardy get hurt? Did McDermott say anything about that after the game? This must be a real injury and not the IR stash we did last year with Shorter because Hardy balled out this offseason.

Burrow is way overrated by the general media and public. It's like the fact that he's injury prone is just dismissed. Best ability and all...

This is real: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5715301/2024/08/21/buffalo-bills-practice-cole-bishop-mike-edwards-tyler-bass?source=user-shared-article The Tyler Bass struggles continue The Bills might have a brewing problem with kicker Tyler Bass. Against the Steelers, Bass nailed all three of his attempts, which was a much-needed confidence boost, even if the attempts were only from 27, 26 and 31. The internal hope had to be that it was the start of Bass turning it around as they near the regular season. Things have not gone according to plan. Over the last two practices, Bass has made 8 of his 14 attempts in team drills, which is not ideal but doesn’t sound as bad as when you dig deeper into those numbers. Bass went a perfect 3-for-3 from under 35 yards, with hits from 33, 28 and 33 yards out. But when Bass tried from 40 yards or longer, he was only 5-of-11. He went 3-of-6 on those kicks on Tuesday and 2-of-5 on Wednesday. The makes were from 43, 47, 44, 40 and 48 yards. The misses were from 47, 47, 44, 42, 42 and 40 yards. Bass did not attempt a single field goal that was at least 50 yards long. On both days, general manager Brandon Beane went on the field around 30-40 yards directly behind Bass to get a good view of each kick. The struggles have not been new, having persisted most of training camp. And now only two weeks out of the regular season, the Bills have the dilemma of what to do with a struggling kicker who has a dead cap hit of $4.32 million this year if they cut him, with an extra $3 plus million in dead cap added to 2025 if that’s the route they take. The Bills will likely have to keep Bass because of his contract. But with all these struggles, unless things change, don’t be surprised if they prioritize signing a kicker to the practice squad in a week.

Yep. It is Yep. I did. And the WRs that most let the team down in that KC game are no longer on the team.

First of all, Kansas City had the ball last, not Buffalo. On Buffalo's last drive Diggs dropped a bomb from Allen that would have been a GW TD or at least the go-ahead score. Despite that, the offense was still productive enough to move all the way into the red zone, and if not for Dawkins getting mauled by Chris Jones, Allen throws the go-ahead TD to Shakir. But he still got us into game tying territory if not for Bass having the Yips last year. As for all the other stuff you said, this was a thread about the offense, not the defense or how far the team advances in the playoffs. That's for other threads. I just said that our offense this year will be better if Shakir and Kincaid progress, which I think they will.

I agree with the Center downgrade, though we'll know when the season starts. Reports are that the snapping issues have gone away so maybe they just needed to feel eachother out. Edwards very well might actually be an upgrade over McGovern. Remember he started the position with a Super Bowl winning team and played for Kromer. Dude, if Shakir tops 1000 yards and Samuel has the best year of his career, this offense will be FIYAH!!!! I really think you're overvaluing Gabe. Even Diggs pulled a disappearing act after Brady took over.

The Bills offense isn't what's prevented Buffalo from advancing in the playoffs. Actually, the offense had one of its best games in the divisional round against KC when Gabe was out and Diggs was MIA.

Allen is the only QB in the NFL comparable to Mahomes. It's not misguided Joe Marino. I know Dane Brugler said it but I couldn't pull up the Beast from that year. Here's a quote from Daniel Jeremiah on him: Enough good can equal great. While Shakir does not stand out in any one area, the Boise State receiver meets every baseline when it comes to his size, athleticism and college production. That's 5. I'm sorry. With all due respect, those guys have more scouting credibility than you.

And we replaced Gabe with 2 guys who have those same strengths and better hands.

I started to type something, but realized there's only one appropriate response: Touche... And he might at that. But the 2 of them almost certainly will in their production All those other teams don't have Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021509-khalil-shakir-nfl-draft-2022-scouting-report-for-boise-state-wr POSITIVES — Good route-runner who can operate from the slot and outside. Consistently gets his depth and understands how to use leverage to win. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Khalil-Shakir-WR-BoiseState Scouting Report: Strengths -Knows how to beet press corners with leverage and excellent foot speed -Provides a good element of versatility - played both in the slot and outside -Often used on deep routes, getting separation down the sideline or over the middle on crossing routes by extending his arms rather than pure speed These are just a couple, but plenty of film buffs who watch the film agree Shakir can be an effective outside WR. Ironically enough, much of his scouting report resembles Diggs's scouting report coming out of college, when most felt he could play either inside or outside, but would be most effective on the inside in the NFL.

RBs 2023 Cook, aging Murray, Ty Johnson picked up as season starts RBs 2024 Cook, Davis, Ty Johnson with a year in the system 2024>>>2023 OL 2023 Dion, McGovern, Morse, Cybo (rookie), Brown OL 2024 Dion, Edwards, McGovern, Cybo, Brown 2024<<<<2023 I'm putting this all on the question mark that McGovern is at Center and Edwards is at Guard. Cybo at RG should be pretty awesome this year. Dawkins should be his usual reliable self. Brown is playing for a contract. There's a pretty good chance this group this year is better, but it's just unknown right now. TEs 2023 Kincaid (rookie), Knox (injured), Morris TEs 2024 Kincaid (year 2 & a focal point), Knox (healthy... hopefully), Morris &/or Davidson 2024>>>>>2023 WRs 2023 Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Sherfield, Harty WRs 2024 Shakir, Samuel, Coleman, Holins, ????????? 2024=====2023 I would argue 2024 is better, but benefit of the doubt they're equal until we see it. I mean... I get that Diggs was Elite & Davis was productive, but Samuel has been a more productive player (when healthy) over the course of his career. And if Shakir was the #3 last year and it's Coleman/Hollins we're considering as replaced production... I don't know who really things the 2 of them can't outproduce what Shakir did together. Who knows about WR #5, but seems inconsequential. Diggs >> Shakir Davis <<< Samuel Shakir << Hollins/Coleman Far, far less talent? You're being hyperbolic.

Did I say that? I absolutely don't believe that and didn't say it.

Shakir can play on the outside, too.

You disagree that Ty Johnson in year 2 and Ray Davis are an upgrade over Ty Johnson we acquired as the season started and 33 year old Latavius Murray who fell apart throughout the season? I think I said Samuel who would be our #2 WR would be the upgrade over Gabe who was our #2. But as for Hollins, look who was throwing him the ball over the span of his career. He's also potentially our #4 WR. WRs 1-4 this year >>>> WRs 1-4 last year.

Shakir is a 4.4 WR. He has the speed and skill to play on the outside. He's not just a slot WR. Multiple scouts and film buffs have pointed this out.

Josh Allen needs to take a step forward from what has already been pretty much a HOF career? Really? I just don't care about MVS. I was actually a bit terrified of him being a relatively significant part of our offense. If Hamler makes the team he can accomplish the speed threat portion that MVS was brought in for along with being an actual Special Teams contributor Seriously? Are you just being difficult? It's implicit that when I say "in 2024" I mean "than 2023." Better in 2024 than it was in 2023.

Khalil Shakir & Dalton Kincaid I can't believe the attitude around here. This is unreal. OL is same minus Morse plus McGovern at Center and Edwards at Guard. Possibly a downgrade at Center but I actually think Edwards is a better Guard. RB upgrade by a lot. Ty Johnson for the full year at RB3. Ray Davis upgrade over Murray. Cook... let's just hope he fixed his hands. WRs... well... what do we say? Diggs was All Pro 1st half last season but Houdini in the 2nd half. Gabe was just not very good... in fact I think he was largely responsible for our passing woes and multiple turnovers. Sherfield & Harty... really??? It might not even be Coleman who upgrades over Davis. It might be Hollins. But then one of those 2 has to upgrade on Sherf... oh yeah... there's still Curtis Samuel. Turf toe sounds like it's just been there for him and he's already played with it. Sounds like Shakir is ready to explode. Anyone like me planning on grabbing him in fantasy? Last we have Kincaid. It's weirdly the most talked about yet most underrated aspect of the 2024 Bills. Everyone believes he's about to get 100+ targets at least, right? Well... if we think Chiefs formula, how do you prefer MVS, JuJu, Pacheco, CEH, & Kelce over Shakir, Samuel, Cook, Davis & Kincaid? That's without Coleman & Hollins, obviously. That was the crew Mahomes won league MVP with while putting up gaudy numbers after losing Tyreek Hill. I'm sorry. Lots of questions this year. But I'm more excited about this season with the "good vibes" than is apparently reasonable. Injuries suck, but they're happening early. And every team gets them

That's weird. This is the most interesting Bills team in years.

Just for reference, Milano ran a 4.67 to Andreeson's 4.65 40 yard dash. Milano had a 35 inch vertical to Andreeson's 38 inch vertical. Milano had a 10.6 inch broad jump to Andreeson's 10.2 inch jump. Milano benched 24 reps to Andreeson's 32. Milano weighed 223 lbs to Andreeson's 240 lbs.

Not reading all replies, but the concensus is that Andreeson is pretty darn impressive, right?

Is anyone else outside the WNY area tuned into NFL Network expecting the scheduled Bills game but seeing a Barry Sanders documentary?