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Yeah? A guy who refused to play with the team that drafted him? That guy would be a hot commodity? Especially when a guy's stock is dropping because he is smart?

If the exact same prospect and personality of Jim were in the draft now, a majority of you would trash on him. Just some perspective...

Not a big fan of the ones with 500 trade backs but that is how you score well on this site. Not really realistic. I wish it actually penalized you for losing valuable selection spots. 3 seconds is not always better than 2 firsts.

This does not apply to all of them. Ask Rosen how he REALLY feels about Jim Mora. All of that sounded real nice though.

There will be 40 million cameras at his house showing his face after each QB needy team passes. You want them to make enemy with Goodell, the guy that runs the league where they get paid, but embrace the millionaires who stay hush as to how the NCAA profits off of their likeness and creates obstacles for earning any extra money at all for your own brand. We pretend to be on David's side but Goliath laughs at us.

Wow!!?! Why doesn't anyone believe in Joe Webb??? He had that one good throw, he never even got a real shot! This coaching staff definitely believed in him!!! Big loss!

Yes so 66% of the time it works. That is a good statistic. Nothing in this world is 100%.

Bruce was in a world of his own. I firmly believe he is the greatest defensive lineman of all time.

Trenches win nothing in this league. Ask the cowboys. The key to winning 15+ games in the NFL is having a guy who in his 4 year career has played average in 4 games. Smart!

Only one of those examples is from this decade to show how old this argument is. Those guys sliding in the draft is exactly why QBs are taken earlier and earlier. Finding late round guys is not that common. People need to fall back on decades ago to have substantial examples beyond a few outliers. Now I'll name the franchise QBs taken early during this eon. Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston, Luck, Newton, Stafford, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and the jury is out on Mitch, Mahomes, then there's Watson, but man did he look great this year. The 80s and 90s were fun though right. Give me a break.

Not sure what you are trying to say here but I'll just add: Nathan Peterman is pure garbage.

AJ McCarron is a backup NFL QB.

Guys do not slip these days precisely because of the guys you named. Let's talk about this decade please. Rodgers was the 2nd QB taken btw, just to show how much the league has changed. There are statistically, the last ten years, less QBs that amount to anything outside of 1 or 2 guys if we want some late round scrub. Threads like these keep popping up and posters like myself keep repeating the same point. If this were 2005 or even 2011 I would agree with you. Unfortunately, it is 2018. Once again, the roulette ball will fall on 00 once in a while, but it's smarter to put all your money on black or red.

Didn't they say that about the Rams???

He was drafted in 05. That's over a decade ago. It hasn't happened successfully forever. The only guy recently who is yet to be determined is Mahomes, who I think will be good fwiw.

Please tell me about Josh Allen's injury history because for some reason his doesn't exist...

Mahomes is good? Still don't know yet. He would be the first to buck the trend.

These days, you draft a guy in the first, you don't let him sit. Maybe a couple games, maybe a half, but there have not been successful guys in the last 8-10 years who sat.

I remember when the NFL started tilting to passing more than rushing, and people thought that was just part of the ebs and flow of the game. Not a fad. Shotgun allows for younger QBs to enter the league and produce immediately. They spend their entire careers playing spread or shotgun, then have to learn something different for the NFL. It isn't logical. It's like training a doctor to do a surgery a certain way for 8 years, they get their license, and now they have to perform it differently. Also, in shotgun you have more playmakers on the field typically, you have a better vantage point to read the field presnap, and can run the ball just as effectively. The only advantage I see to under the center snaps is the ability to run play action. For the case of the Bills, we have Shady McCoy who is historically better running out of shotgun. Us being one of the few teams that ran under center a majority of the time shows how truly horrific the Dennison hiring, coaching, and offense as a whole was. Totally unfit for personnel, totally unfit for today's game. I hope Daboll brings something new to the table or we will be watching more of the same unless we strike absolute gold with our young QB. I'm worried the conservative, calculated nature of our FO will leave us with a spread QB like Mason Rudolph, since a guy we liked better didn't fall, and we try to fit a square peg into a round hole with a throwback under center offense.

There were only 3 great offenses that played under center 50/50. Saints, pats, falcons. The rest of the great offenses in the league are almost 70/30 out of shotgun. It's time for the bills to enter the 21st century already.

The Superbowl champions played from shotgun 70% of the time last year. Our elite RB does significantly better out of shotgun. Hey guys! It's a drop back league though, let's obsess over under center!

You need Jesus

Mason Rudolph is this year's Nathan Peterman because we are deathly afraid of getting a highly touted QB prospect.

Trust the process was stolen from the 76ers, who have been using it for like 4 years. A lot of us seem to have forgotten that the original saying from McDerm was "Respect the process".

What he meant to say was there aren't as many good black QBs because the NBA is stealing the black talent. Now there's a hot take.