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Montgomery squandered any chance of the Packers winning that game Sunday. He was told before the kick-off to take the knee whether the kick was half a yard in the end zone or 9 yards in the end zone. However, on the previous offensive series, Montgomery was pulled and threw a tantrum. Some are saying the reason he decided to return that kick was his own personal "FU" to the coaching staff. Now he can go fumble kick-offs for the Ravens.

He came super close to catching that ball but even if he did, I think he would've landed out of bounds.

I guess he must've had some sort of epiphany while zipping around in his little starship.

Definitely a nice surprise, a guy I'd like to see them retain.

Oh man, I didn't catch that. Those jerks. I was kinda baffled as to why it was Bush they decided to ask to do a song. I assume they were in the area for their own show or something.

That whole crew has really bad chemistry. Whatever the Bills did, they'd call it out and say they have to do the opposite.

I'd hire him before Jackson.

Gotcha. We'd all like to see more from Lawson and it'd be nice if Murphy could consistently stay healthy. Not saying the dude is All-Pro but he is pretty consistent in getting pressures. This next draft is loaded with DL talent so if they think they need to add some pass rushers, they should be able to find a good one. On the flip-side, it's not a great draft for offense.

The other three also had the benefit of playing with 2, 3, and 4 star recruits where as Allen didn't. The kid has never been surrounded by solid talent at the skill positions. Hopefully the Bills will be able to add some in the off-season and that will make a difference in Allen's playing.

Well, they did show Bush playing "Comedown" in front of the Falls before the game.

Game is moving pretty fast for all the rookie QBs at this point. Also, all of them are under 60% for completion percentage.

Hughes is still performing at a high level, and they like the intensity he brings. They're also big on how he practices and like having him around to set an example for those inexperienced players on how to be a pro and how to maintain your health so you can play into your 30's.

Age-wise, yeah... but experience-wise, they have a lot of inexperienced players at the moment. There's also Lorenzo and Kyle, but those dudes are valuable leaders and both have been playing exceptionally well.

LOL, what?! Dude... I stated a simple fact. There's no deeper meaning behind it. 40% of the current Bills roster is made up of 1st or 2nd year players. The end.

Clearly they saw something in Kerley in practice that they didn't like, or they figured there was a cheaper option that was able to do what he does and they could save money. If Kerley was *that* good, he'd be on a team right now but he isn't. Coleman was a longshot from the start. The Pats cut him as well. He's currently on the Giants practice squad. Best UDFA is Foster? He flashed in pre-season a couple of times but didn't do anything once the season began. I like Cam Phillips a bit more.

The defense is a combination of things from both McDermott and Frazier... and it was only when McDermott took over play-calling did the defense turn it around, so... Yeah, and?

I guess I'm just not sure what people were expecting this season. I think the playoff run last year set the bar real high for 2018 when in fact, 2018 was always going to be a tough one as they worked through the rebuild. McDermott's answers don't bother me. It's coachspeak. Most coaches do it. He doesn't owe us or the media anything. And what would you like him to say? Do you want him to start calling out players? Start throwing some position groups under the bus? They've said it from the get-go, they handle everything internally and keep a tight lid on it. So his answers are always going to be bland because he's not going to make any comments in public that could disrupt things behind the scenes. And really, what can he say? It's football, all they can do is regroup and try again. Do you want him to place blame on people? He knows it starts with him, but he also knows that this season was all about growth for the youth movement. I believe their plan was the same as last season, lean on a strong defense to create turnovers and short fields, rely on a decent running game, take your shots where you can and keep it close. Unfortunately, they've had some bad breaks with injuries and unexpected departures (E. Wood) and things just haven't panned out how we all would've liked but what can you do? At the end of the day, I try to see the big picture. They're trying to build something that can sustain success. They had to tear it all down and start fresh. There were always going to be growing pains. I mean, how soon people forget that this dude took a team devoid of stars (aside from McCoy) to the playoffs last season. They finished 31st in passing last season. McDermott was able to get quite a lot with very little last year. Even now, he's getting mostly solid performances out of the defense. If that's a sign of things to come then, I'm psyched. In three out of four games against New England, that defense allowed exactly ZERO Tom Brady TD passes. We obviously saw how he can bring a team together as those guys really love playing for each other. You hear Thurman last night say one of the main reasons those 90s Bills teams were so successful was because they were a family. Sounds corny, but McDermott is trying to instill that family atmosphere. This organization has had talented rosters in the past but couldn't come together as a team. That's not to say "the process" is free from criticism. I think they overestimated what they had on offense but they did try to add some free agents in the off-season and got turned down. That's business, it happens. So many people act like it's a super easy process to sign a free agent. The player has to wanna be here as well. I think they tinkered with the OL for too long over the summer. I've said that before. OL's need time to gel so they can play fast and not have to think too much. Obviously losing Eric Wood has been a big detriment to them. He was a team leader and one of the smartest dudes out there and likely would've been super helpful with Allen in terms of calling out the right protections and identifying defensive alignments. Incognito, eh, he started to decline as the season went on last year and if he was as awesome as a lot of this board thinks, he'd be playing somewhere right now. It's a bummer, yeah, but this is what happens when an organization finally says, "Enough of the band-aids, enough of the quick fixes, enough of the 'we can win now if we just get this guy or that guy' mentality, let's tear it down and start over." And for years I've seen so many people calling for the rebuild. Now they finally go through with it and those same people want heads to roll in the middle of a season. You can't sustain any sort of success if you're constantly in turnover mode. It looks bad right now, but honestly, brighter days are coming. No one said it was gonna be easy. Just let these dudes do their work and see what happens. They're here through 2019 at the very least. I'm interested to see what they can do when they (McBeane) have a complete off-season to work together. Just stay the course. And if at the end of 2019 they finish 4-12 or something, then yeah, probably need to reset again. But if they make progress and hit 8-8 or 9-7 again, then they're on the right track. I dunno. I'm just gonna watch it play out. At the end of the day, it's a game and if they don't get it right this time, well, the team ain't going anywhere so they'll just take another crack at it with different personnel, wash, rinse, repeat. Go Bills.

40% of the roster is made up of 1st & 2nd year players.

Right? Yeesh. If Foles was as good as some people on this board think, he would've been signed to a team to be the starter. So he stays in Philly which is really the only place he's had any kind of success.

Foles isn't as amazing as people think. Doug Pederson and his staff last year are responsible for designing a scheme that Foles is very good at executing. But, when a defense figures out how to stop that, Foles isn't really able to adjust. He's not a well-rounded QB. He can do a few things really well, and the rest of it, he's either average or just not good.

On one hand, I think it's important for Allen to get as many reps as possible, but on the other... I can see how they're cautious about putting him back in the lineup with this OL. Don't wanna make the existing injury any worse or create any new ones. But there's really no replacement for on-field experience. And this being a lost season it makes it a good time for Allen to gain experience because there's really no pressure. If he makes a mistake, eh, big deal. Has to make mistakes in order to learn. I'd rather he make those mistakes in a season that's meant for mistakes and gaining experience rather than plug him in next year and expect more wins because (hopefully) they'll have added more pieces to the offense in 2019. I knew when they labeled it "week to week" it was worse than what they were letting on. Saying it's week to week allows them to avoid being held to a specific time table and if a setback occurs and they have to shut him down for the season, they won't have to face any questions like, "But I thought you said he'd be ready after the bye?" I dunno... I think if he's 100% recovered from the elbow with a few games left in the season, let him play. Needs the experience.

Nobody.

I think he meant Buffalo-style Robert Woods, you know, 45-50 catches for 600 yards and a couple TDs Robert Woods. Not LA Rams Robert Woods, who is currently on pace to catch 97 passes for around 1300 yards and 7 TDs.

And that wasn't the point I was trying to make, I just found it interesting that a fair amount of ex-Bills have ended up on Carolina's roster, that's all.

Dammit. I thought he did but I couldn't recall. Well, when you have to throw your entire offensive game-plan out the window by halftime because you're down by 14 or 21 points, nobody's gonna look like much of anything. There were a few plays last night he made, so we know when they involve him he can still get it done. It's just they have to abandon what they wanna do at a certain point because they have to throw it again and again as they're playing catch up.