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The tanking stuff is just nonsense. There are so many more negative factors working against it than positive ones. For starters, there's no guarantee that this "incredible" QB class of 2018 is going to live up to the hype, nor is there any guarantee that any underclassmen QBs will elect to enter the draft. Rudolph and Falk are the only two out of the group that will be seniors this year. McDermott just showed us how much he values experience as every player he picked was a senior or had already graduated. I also don't think a first-time head coach wants to kick off his tenure with an abysmal season played by backups and rookies just so a higher draft pick can be procured. Coaches plan to win, they could care less where they wind up in terms of a draft slot. I don't see this team in a rebuilding mode, either. They are clearly confident enough with the current roster to make a run this season. Should that fail, that's when I can see them unloading heavy contracts, trading some of their players near the end of their contracts, clearing space, collecting picks and definitively rebuilding. Regardless of what McDermott says in terms of earning a starting job, Taylor is the starter this season.

I'm gonna go with the things that long-time, successful head coaches and other league personnel have said about the guy. Cam Newton tore up the 2015 season, sure, but before Newton and with him, McDermott was fielding defenses finishing in the top ten in five or six seasons he was in Carolina. I firmly believe some people aim to nitpick simply for the sake of it. Aside from those that have worked with him, no one knows how this guy is going to turn out as a HC.

He was still healing from his injury that had him miss the 2015 season. Chris Brown was on the Murph show today and spoke about how he talked to JW during last year's mini-camps and JW explained that he still wasn't 100% and was taping it up and trying to do his best. He was at the bottom of the depth chart likely for those reasons. There's ability there. And this system is very RB-friendly. Not gonna say hopes are extremely high but can he be a capable replacement for MG? Yeah, and hopefully he's 100%.

Ask anyone close to the scouting community or one of these online guys that have made a name for themselves over the years: none of the players really bother trying very hard on the test and it ultimately doesn't count for much towards the overall grade a team places on a prospect.

I don't get that vibe from him at all. All coaches have a system, obviously. But he's said on numerous occasions that he plans to fit the scheme around the natural talents of his players. Jerry Hughes just said yesterday it's a defense tailored to the strengths of his players. To me, he's a polar opposite of Rex who believed so heavily in his scheme that it's cost him his last two jobs.

EJ had some decent moments in 2013, he has his flaws, no doubt, but I've always felt the tandem of Marrone and Hackett was a terrible combination for developing a young QB. Marrone preferred the inside zone runs and was not very flexible in what style of offense he wanted to run. I forget who said it but it was an OL during a minicamp in Rex's first year and he was asked the difference between the Marrone/Hackett offense and the Roman offense and the guy said all Marrone wanted to do was run inside zone whereas Roman was implementing the wide variety of blocking schemes he likes to use. And then of course, Marrone and Hackett are both first timers at their positions in the NFL. They have a QB who trusts himself the most to make a play which leads to him leaving the pocket early, dropping his eyes off his reads and taking off for a scramble. Normally, coaches want to teach a young QB that he's going to have to hang in the pocket and wait for the play to develop and not take off at the first sign of trouble. However, I remember quite distinctly that Marrone/Hackett both encouraged EJ to run whenever he felt like the play wasn't there. They preferred EJ take off and gain a few yards rather than throw an incompletion or an interception. As a young QB you've gotta let the guy take his lumps and learn from his mistakes. Given EJ's slower processing time and the fact that he didn't trust himself to fire the ball downfield into tight windows or throw receivers open, telling him to scramble rather than try to make the throw simply reinforced bad habits EJ already had. In near-perfect situations EJ showed real NFL ability as a QB. And by near-perfect I mean a clean pocket, his footwork is in sync with the routes his receivers are running and the pocket holds up long enough for him to correctly apply his mechanics and accurately deliver the ball for a completion. Unfortunately, those types of situations don't happen very often during a game. QBs need to be able to work in a muddy pocket, avoid pressure, look off the safety, go through the reads, make a decision and throw all within about three seconds. After that, things start to fall apart and improvising comes into play, and EJ's improv was just to give up on the throw and take off. You can see as he went from the system used in '13 and '14 to the ones used in '15 and '16 that he was trying to become more of a pocket passer without his first instinct being to run as soon as trouble arose. There's no doubt about his athletic ability and his work ethic, unfortunately for him, his biggest hurdle is the mental processing aspect and how quickly it needs to be done. Perhaps that's why Marrone/Hackett encouraged the running? Maybe they knew it was going to take the guy quite a while to adapt to the speed of the game so maybe they thought they were keeping it simple for him by giving him half-field reads with a near-constant option to run, I dunno. He's a good dude, it just hasn't happened for him. However, with Oakland's OL, I kind of expect him to beat out Cook for the backup job out there based on how good the protection is from the Oakland OL. Carr was sacked only 16 times last season. Granted, Carr makes his reads and decisions faster but the more time EJ has the better simply because he just doesn't process things as fast as needed in the NFL.

Yeah, once I saw he was still at ECMC I started to figure it wasn't as simple as that. He still could've been physically ill in some form, not mentally as so many have speculated. Or high, as has also been speculated. Either way, he seems like a good kid. I don't think he had any red flags concerning his character, he seems pretty humble and reserved. For all we know he could've already been getting treatment for something and he had some bad side effects from medication.

Wasn't there supposedly an accident on the 400 that he was near? I mention that because I know one article made mention of the fact that he was not involved in the accident on the 400. Maybe he got caught in traffic behind the accident and had to drop a deuce and knew he wasn't gonna make it home or to a bathroom any time soon.

Watson has a number of things required at the QB position that you can't teach. His FBI is off the charts, his leadership is excellent, players love to play with him, he commands the huddle, he keeps everything even-keeled, he's never too high or too low and I don't think anybody on that Clemson team felt they were completely out of a game with him under center. He has all the common flaws a college QB has these days, comes from a spread system, shotgun, footwork/mechanics, that type of stuff can be coached. Do they take him at 10? I don't know. Ideally, I'm definitely a fan of trading down and acquiring some more picks. Every year though, regardless of the QB class (usually) a team makes a move and takes their guy higher than most would. I can see that happening with Trubisky and Watson. Out of the two, I like both. Trubisky has some really great tools to work with as well but his lack of starting experience would push me to draft Watson over him given the choice. I like Mahomes as well but I think he might be the furthest away from NFL-ready given the system he played in. He pretty much played sandlot ball his entire college career and he knows he'll have to adapt but he's also said that sandlot style and him trying to make something happen is part of his nature and it's not something he'll stop doing entirely. He'll drive his coaches nuts when/if he takes the reigns for some team out there. But I agree with some others who have said he has that Favre-esque X-factor that might turn him into the top QB to come from this class if he's given the time. One week, peeps. One more week.

What I don't get is the Buffalo press consistently trying to crack some type of "story" about this one-voice philosophy. I don't understand what the big deal is and where their confusion comes in. I think most of the people at the head of this team realize Whaley isn't a great speaker, in fact I think he's said it before himself, his focus is behind the scenes. Sure there are media obligations and whatnot but what do they expect him or any other coach to say aside from the standard stock answers? Then they claim to "hear all sorts of buzz" that things aren't long for the Whaley/McDermott era when in reality this team has pulled a complete 180 in terms of things being said in the media. They're quieter and more tight-lipped now than they've been in forever. Yet today during McD's presser he had someone ask the same question in three different ways regarding how decisions would be made between him and Whaley when it came to the draft. Whaley has control of the 53 but that doesn't mean he doesn't take any input from his coaches on who they think they should keep, cut and who they should draft. And these dudes go and write and claim all sorts of dysfunction. Wouldn't it be more dysfunctional if the coach and GM of a team DIDN'T meet, discuss and make decisions together? I dunno. Like I said, I think the guy gets a bum rap over a few moves that haven't panned out. But still, in comparison to past GMs he has this team in much better shape. Unfortunately it's been the coaching situations that have led to mediocrity.

Never fully understood the immense hate for Whaley. Sure, he hasn't batted a thousand, no GM does, but when you compare him to the guys that were running the show before him, he's done a lot better. Tom Donahoe, Marv Levy, Russ Brandon, Buddy Nix... all of those guys took heat for different reasons. Donahoe wanted to build a team based around "big name" free agents. Levy and Brandon really had no business being GMs and for all intents and purposes it was mainly Dick Jauron that had the final word on the drafts in that area. Thank him for guys like Whitner and Maybin. Then you get Nix and Gailey who built an offense out of late-round and undrafted players. Don't get me wrong, they got some great production out of guys like Fred Jackson and Stevie Johnson but Nix always got slammed for always "standing pat" in the draft and not making any flashy trades or moves. I remember many fans being frustrated with the way all these guys did their business. They didn't go after any solid free agents, they "let" their good players walk, etc. etc. It wasn't all bad, but it wasn't great either. Then you get Whaley who is a polar opposite of these guys. He's not afraid to make trades, he re-signs key players, he signs some solid free agents, he makes efforts to go after the "big fish" out there in some years and simply in terms of numbers, the teams he's built have been the best ones out of the drought. As it stands right now, the Bills are 24-24 throughout Whaley's time as GM. I get it, not good enough, but you have to give some credit where it's due. People slam him for the Watkins trade, they blame him for EJ, they throw shade because he's not a very good public speaker (but, let's be real, being a smooth talker with the press really isn't an important trait for a GM to have), he gets blame for hiring Rex when all signs indicate that that decision was made largely by the Pegulas and Brandon, we all remember the red wine story. And I recall very clearly that Hue Jackson was at the top of Whaley's list in 2015 and Jackson left his interview almost 100% positive that he would be offered the job. But in came Ryan and his merlot to win the job and keep this team stuck in the mud for the next two years. He gets blamed for letting Chris Hogan walk. The only reason people gripe so much about that is because the kid went to New England. Had he gone to somewhere like Jacksonville or Minnesota or Kansas City, people would have been like, "eh, he's replaceable." No one knew the WR group was going to get so slammed with injuries last year. Even so, he still went and found Justin Hunter and got some decent production out of him. He drafted Karlos Williams who turns in a fine rookie season only to throw it all away for a box of Ring-Dings, so they cut him, find Gillislee off the street who performs even better. He found Alexander, Z. Brown, etc. In terms of drafts, it's true that they haven't done great but you can't say he didn't do his job in providing his HC with the players that would fit their schemes. Marrone preferred giant OL, so Whaley gave him two in 2014. Ryan had to flip the defense to a 3-4, so Whaley goes and gets players that fit that scheme. I know he hasn't fixed the QB situation but neither have over half the other teams in the league who are still searching for their franchise guy. And they haven't been in a position to make huge leaps up the board to draft a top QB. They didn't have the resources to do what the Rams did for Goff or what the Eagles did for Wentz or what Tennessee did to get Mariota. They've been stuck in the middle of the rounds and they know they can't give up tons of picks to move up for any of those QBs who, just like every year, all had plenty of question marks coming out college. I just think he's done more positive than negative during his tenure. Someone said the entire front office should have been cleared out when Marrone left. How does that make any sense? Especially when you have brand new owners who were just barely getting their feet wet in the NFL. You're going to let Marrone have that kind of affect? "Welp, Marrone ditched us so let's take it out on everyone else and fire them and leave our new owners with no one to guide them." Sure, you can hire new people, but the Pegulas would have been extremely out of their element had they done that. I realize it hasn't all been great, but I feel like the guy gets a bit of a bum rap. If they don't make the playoffs this season then I can understand a change being made in his position. Just be ready for another two or three playoff-less seasons as they gut the team and try, try again.

I like what I read about Harvey-Clemons. He's 6'4", 217, with nearly 36" arms, that's the type of arm length teams look for in their OL. He has some blemishes on his character but it appears he's remained clean over the last couple of seasons. I really love that one of McDermott's top priorities in adding players is versatility. The more you can do, the better. I've had a safety/LB hybrid type player on my Bills "wish list" for a couple of years now. This guy gets comparisons to Kam Chancellor and he could play the role that guys like Bucannon out in Arizona and Cravens down in Washington plays. And if Gillislee goes (which I think is pretty likely) I wouldn't care at all if the Bills burned one of those three 5th round picks on Chad Kelly. If he works out, awesome, if not.... it's a 5th round pick. Is there a comprehensive list of visits anywhere? Or is it mainly just this thread with names being added as we hear of them? Just curious.

He definitely would check off McD's boxes for character, metal toughness, leadership and other intangiables, I'm definitely a fan of his. But I think the Bills are pretty high on the back they drafted last year in Jonathan Williams. These guys have somewhat of a similar skill set in that they're both powerful runners, with Williams being a little looser and quicker-footed than Conner. I think Conner did a little more out of the backfield than Williams but other than that, I think they aren't too different. And after the draft last year, Monos said they envision Williams earning a starting role at some point, so that would lead one to believe that the organization has high hopes for him. I hope (and think) that TD Mike isn't going anywhere. The Pats have been hosting FA backs simply to create leverage with Blount, I believe. On top of that, I can't see a team like them opting to pay for a veteran back with more mileage (unless it's Blount) rather than choosing from a pool of pretty talented backs coming out this year.

That makes sense too. It's a two-fold process for them. One, they go out and learn as much as they can about these guys and see if one might entice them enough to draft him, and two, they create the scene that they're interested in these QBs in which they hope creates interest from other teams to work out a trade.

It's not that fitting. Kizer is miles ahead of Manuel in terms of football IQ. That's one of the areas where Manuel struggled the most. I don't say this to knock the kid because I think he's a great person, but he's a bit of a slow learner. There was a long-form article on the website just before the 2014 season that was all about Manuel and it mentioned how he needed extra tutoring and help through middle and high school, and not because he was too busy working on QB things. On top of that, the person on the field that Manuel trusts the most is himself. He's too gun-shy to throw into tight windows or take a chance on a 50/50 ball to let his guy make a play. He'd rather pull it down and run. Kizer has shown that he'll stand in the pocket and take a shot in the ribs if he knows he has a guy coming open, that's not something we saw Manuel really do at all. There are some size and athletic similarities but I think that's where it ends.

That clip with Kizer and Mooch shows us what Kizer showed every team he visited with at the Combine. There were quotes coming out all week that Kizer was crushing interviews and blowing away coaches with his work on the whiteboard. Of all the QBs coming out this year he may have the highest FBI. Watson was the other QB said to have won big during his interviews, displaying his leadership and team-first mentality. And it was just recently said this week that NFL teams and coaches are a lot higher on these QBs than the media/online scouts and us armchair GMs, A couple of these guys are going to be very good players. This isn't 2013 and some are treating it like it is, there are some NFL quality QBs coming out this year.

This has to be trolling, right? Nicknames and sports go together like peanut butter and jelly. I don't think there's one guy on the Sabres that gets called by his actual name. I'm surprised this guy didn't bring up Brian "Soupy" Campbell. How alarming. And I guess I never understood the hate for Russ Brandon. Yeah, he definitely should've never been a GM but he's a business guy and if you're the Bills and Sabres, business isn't too bad right now. The product on the field and on the ice needs work but Brandon is right there alongside the Pegulas helping them structure the deals that put together the Harbor Center, aided in getting renovations done at New Era Field. He must be doing something right considering he's outlasted numerous front office changes. To me, he's just a dude.

The coaching on defense was the main downfall of the 2016 season. Way too many cooks in the kitchen, an over-complicated scheme, guys who didn't buy in, Rex apparently giving full defensive control to Rob in order to save his reputation. The players put it on themselves for not being successful but that's what players say. You won't find many players who will come right out and say, "Not our fault, coaching sucked." There are good players on that side of the ball and McDermott is a defensive coach, he'll figure out ways to put those dudes in position to succeed. If an impact defensive player falls to them at 10, take that kid all day. But if the BPA at 10 happens to be an offensive guy, then you take him. Now, in regards to all the QB visits, I think it's a two-fold process. One, they're simply doing their homework on these guys, and two, they're working to create interest for a trade. One of the more interesting bits about this process is the rumor that stated the team didn't want these QB visits to become widely known. That thought was shot down once a UNC coach tweeted that picture of McD and TPegs in NC while they were meeting with Trubisky. If you're trying to create trade interest, why would you want these visits to be low-key? You want teams to believe you're going to select a QB so, generally, a team trying to do that is going to leak all sorts of news about the prospects they're visiting with. The fact that they seemed to have wanted to keep all the QB stuff on the low makes me believe that they are going to come out of this draft with one of the top five or six QBs. If they take one in the first round, I would hope it comes after a trade down. But by this point we've heard all sorts of different stuff, like: Whaley loves Watson, watch out for Bills to make big trade up the board for one of drafts top signal callers, Bills a team to watch for in a trade up for Trubisky, etc etc. It is that time of year, so not too much stock can be put into what's being said/heard right now.

Lot of good stuff here. On the Jaworski quote... he's the same dude that in 2013 said he believed Kaepernick could be one of the greatest QBs of all-time. He had him very highly rated on his list of best NFL QBs at that time. So... ya know, Jaworski may not be the first guy I listen to in regards to prospects. And the Prescott thing was said all during draft weekend last year. I don't remember exactly who said it but it was stated more than a few times that Buffalo had targeted Prescott with their fourth-round pick. Out of all the QBs that came out last year, aside from Wentz, Prescott was a guy the Bills put a lot of work into. Someone mentioned Russell Wilson... yeah, the Bills had him ranked as a 4th round player as did just about every single other team out there. His height is really the only thing that dropped him. Teams felt he would never be able to overcome that. Seattle had 10 picks in 2012 plus they had signed Flynn to presumably be the starter. They probably figured if they grabbed Wilson in the third and he didn't pan out then oh well, they had Flynn. Luckily for them Wilson has turned out to be a top ten QB. Seattle also got trashed in reviews that year for picking Bruce Irvin in the first and Bobby Wagner in the second. In retrospect, given how the careers for each of those guys has worked out their pick position should've been flipped. Back to the Bills though... it was also just reported that they (Bills) were trying to keep these QB visits under wraps but a coach at UNC tweeted that picture of McD and TPegs so the cats outta the bag now. I do believe they'll add a QB somewhere and I wouldn't be surprised if it's in the first... however, I just would like to see it happen after they trade back and gain a few extra picks. There's also a real chance one of these guys could be available to them when their turn is up in round two. We'll see.

Due to the wrist surgery he just had, it's being said it's highly unlikely any team will use a draft pick on him. He'll get to choose where he goes when teams come offering UDFA contracts.

Just wanted to chat about the 2017 QB class and how it pertains to the Bills. As of now, news has been reported that the Bills have met with: -Mitch Trubisky, UNC -Nate Peterman, Pittsburgh -Patrick Mahomes, Texas A&M -DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame -Chad Kelly, Ole Miss Those are the "official" visits we know about. They flew out to NC last night to work out Trubisky, they've had/are having Peterman up here at OBD for one of their official draft visits. News also broke recently that they sat and had dinner with Kizer and they've met/talked with Kelly during Senior Bowl week. On top of that, reports leaked of Whaley being "in love" with Deshaun Watson. There were also reports a while back stating that Trubisky was the top QB on Whaley's board. Now, clearly it's wise for them to do their homework on these QBs but to what extent are they interested in any of them? As the draft approaches the consensus on the QBs seems to be coming into full focus and that focus says none of these players are Day One starters. All of them have their flaws, but all of them have positive traits as well. In my mind, I don't believe they're seriously considering one in the first round. I think they're trying to create interest in the #10 pick. If they do trade down and collect extra picks then I'd say it's possible they take a QB in the first. I do wonder if they feel a little salty after last year. They were prepared to take Prescott with their fourth-round pick but of course Dallas beat them to it. I hope this doesn't force them into picking a guy too soon. All of these QBs are a fit in the new offensive scheme which requires some mobility from the QB in order to make some plays outside the pocket. The best pure arm strength belongs to Kelly and Mahomes. The most accurate passer is Trubisky, that's if you exclude his deep ball which needs work. Kizer is said to have absolutely blown away coaches with his FBI and whiteboard work during the combine. Watson has that "it" factor in terms of leadership and showing up on big stages. Peterman has a head start over these guys as they enter the league considering he ran a pro style offense at Pitt. This class is not as bad as some have suggested. It's also not the best, but it's not 2013. I do believe one or two of these guys can be high-level starters in the league. It's clear that the Bills are most definitely trying to win this season with this current group. However, they've said while they're ready for the short-term they are also planning for the long-term. I believe they'd like to add a guy at the QB position to take over for Taylor in 2018 if Taylor doesn't show the improvements they're looking for. And if Taylor does show those improvements then they have a favorable situation on their hands. They could continue to roll with Taylor while having a guy waiting in the wings, trade Taylor and start the new kid, or trade the new kid, so there's options. Of the guys that have visited/been linked to the Bills, which one would you like to see here and when? I think if they wanna take one in the first round it has to come after a trade down. And even if they do trade down and DON'T take a QB, they'll have a chance at one of these guys in the second round. Based on what I've read and the games I've watched, I'm in on Watson. I know he has some flaws, but to me he has some incredible intangible qualities that you can't teach. He's extremely calm under pressure, big moments don't rattle him, his leadership is off the charts and teammates wanna go to war with this guy at the helm. My plan B would be Kizer in the second round, and for a lot of the same reasons I gave for Watson. Kizer also has a very high FBI, he's experienced, he did some good things with a not very talented offense around him and again, his leadership qualities are top notch. We can, (and have, and will) go on and on about why the Bills or any team SHOULDN'T draft any of these guys. But I'm asking, which guy would you draft and why? Never mind the flaws for the moment. Focus on the pros this player can bring to the table and discuss which guy, which round and what qualities of his would make you want to see him get handed a Bills jersey on draft weekend.

Look at what McDermott did with the defensive backs he had during his time in Carolina. Yes, he had Josh Norman but it wasn't until 2015 that he really put himself on the map. And even with that great season he had, the team decided he still wasn't worth the money... I'm betting a factor in making that decision was their faith in McDermott to get similar results out of other DBs on the team. He had two rookies at the starting corner spots for 2016 and towards the end of the season they started playing quite well. McDermott took former 7th-round pick Kurt Coleman and turned him into a good player. He picked off seven passes in '16 plus another two against Arizona in the NFC Championship game. McDermott appears to have a solid understanding that you scheme to what your players do best. He's going to pinpoint what his guys do best and put them in positions to use those skills and hopefully succeed. I've been a Gilmore fan since day one. The amount of hate that guy got during his time here was kind of crazy. Every corner in the league gets beat. But, more often than not, Gilmore did his job and he did it well. Now, his tackling could've been better. I'm not making excuses for the guy but I believe the injuries he suffered early in his career (which happened as the result of him being in on tackles) messed with him mentally and made him hesitant to run to the ball and stick his nose in to make/help make the tackle. Over the past couple seasons you could see him shy away from scrums and become what evaluators call a "pile watcher." Also, how many times did he have to adapt to new coaches and schemes while he was here? When you're going into every season having to reshape your game based on the new scheme there can be some hiccups. For the most part, I think he is a good player with stretches where he's a very good player. They can't sign 'em all and he's not the type of player they could break the bank for. Combine that with McDermott's track record in getting solid production from less talented players and I think it was pretty easy for them to lay their offer on the table and say "That's as good as it's gonna get. We'd like you back but we understand your position, good luck." Also, Gilmore has stated numerous times that Watkins is the most difficult receiver he's ever covered. Should be fun to watch those two battle twice a year. And I was also a big fan of Woods. He's a team-first guy, a wide receiver on a run-first team who never complained about wanting the ball more. Did his job and did it well, one of the most exciting blocking receivers to watch. But it's not like his production was so off the charts that the team figured, "There's no way we can lose this guy!" He was good for about 50 catches and 600 yards with 3 TDs a year here. He went home to LA, got a nice contract and was probably told, "Look, we saw you against Seattle, we play them twice a year, we'd love to have you repeat that for us." Good for him. NFL = Not For Long. High turnover business, gotta identify your cornerstone players and extend them when possible. Make offers to guys that are a piece of the puzzle and if you get them back, great, if not, you were prepared to have them walk away from you anyway. Woods missed five out of 62 games during his time here. Missed two games apiece in '14 and '15 and missed 3 in '16. That's pretty consistent.

I appreciate the other feedback about why they ditched the board. More revenue makes sense. They have more control about what gets discussed since they post the updates and the topics to talk about. I get all that. I didn't get that they felt removing the board would cause more fan engagement. As for those who said the BBMB moderators were overzealous in some cases, I can't speak from experience because I never got any sort of flak from one. I recognize teef from the BBMB and know he's been around a while. To get an infraction for saying "eeewww" to a potential signing should never have merited them to warn you or anything. You didn't think signing Vick was a good idea, "ew" was your way of saying that, I don't see an issue.

Hahaha. Who said anything about blindly supporting anything? I wasn't cheerleading and saying, "Support the team no matter what!" People can come to their own decisions on how they want to support the team. My main point was the differences in discussion between their Facebook and their message board. I never said BBMB was the best thing ever, it had it's share of trolls and over-discussed topics but IMO it was a better outlet for fans to have discussions. Especially around now, draft time the board was always very active. And vent all you want, that's obviously what these forums and their platforms are for. I'm simply saying I just don't see the need to CONSTANTLY complain no matter what the topic is. "Schedule releases next week!" And then 87 people immediately blast them with something negative. What's the point in that? That's what I'm saying when I feel those kinds of comments in that platform more often deter people from engaging rather than encourage them to chime in. Express yourself however you feel. It's just my opinion that if you're the type of fan that's gonna put your fist through your television or hurl your remote through a window...maybe you need to chill out a bit.

LOL. Nowhere did I make a determination on how Bills fans should act. They're free to act however they want. I did make a statement on how I personally view and handle things. My main point was that the BBMB provided a much better forum for fans to hold discussions, much better than Facebook comment sections, which, as I stated, seem to be constantly overflowing with junk. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, I get that, I just think the constant flow of negativity on these comment sections isn't serving the purpose they intended. They wanted more interaction but when people who are trying to make decent discussion are getting drowned out by ridiculous comments, you're more apt to drive people away rather than encourage them to get involved in the discussion.