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Add Back Shoulder Throws to that arsenal. He seems to be great at those. Don't know that I've EVER seen a Bill be good at them.

As Geoff Schwartz said on Twitter, NFL officials typically over-call a new rule in preseason of the year said rule is instituted. This is to set an example and show teams how the rule will be applied. Most recently, this happened with the "hands to the face" rule that was instituted. Was called a ton in preseason, not nearly as much once season started. Here's hoping the same happens with the helmet rule.

Two out of the three applications of the rule tonight were on point. The call in the end zone against the Bears was garbage. We'll see how things go when the regular season starts.

Are you asking if the existential reality of the utter meaninglessness of football, of sports, and of life in general cause me to enjoy watching the Bills less?

Yes.

1. Wonder Years 2. SU Basketball 3. Johnny Flynn highlights .....

Yes. Decker fits the...um....PROFILE of wide receiver that Belichick seems to like. Ahem.

I may be in the minority, but since it seems clear the Bills are going with a youth movement, I'd like to see mostly youngsters make the squad at WR. Something like: Benjamin Jones Reilly Dupre Phillips McCloud Foster I mean...no one expects much from the Bills this year anyway, right? So why not go with the high upside guys and let the offense grow together? Is anyone really interested in watching 30-year-old Rod Streater or 30-year-old Jeremy Kerley lead the team in catches? How does that help us win in 2019 and beyond? So that's a "no" to LaFell. Let's get the young guys a bunch of reps so we know what we have on offense going forward.

Figures. I have Kelce and Hill on my fantasy roster. ?

Well, shoot! That invalidates my entire point! Thank you for your valuable contribution to this thread.

The greatest coach/QB combination in history will do that for you.

Not to pee on your pity parade, but the Pats* only brought in Eric Decker because Jordan Matthews, Kenny Britt, and Malcolm Mitchell are all hurt and they need bodies. Also, while Edelman is suspended and discluding Gronk (who's a tight end), New England has a worse WR corps than Buffalo. But please continue.

Looks like you were right. Owa got cut, and Lawson started today with Murphy getting a rest day. Count me among those that really hopes Shaq DOES make the roster and contribute. I can't think of a bigger boost to the defense than Lawson becoming a 10-sack-a-year guy.

Is this true? If so, it's extremely surprising to me. Everything I've seen has indicated Washington has been unimpressive and is on the roster bubble. Through five training camp practices, I have yet to read a single positive word about Washington's play. I hope this IS true. Having a quality 3-tech in line to replace Kyle next year would be awesome. I have my doubts, though.

Agreed. For that reason, I just use other teams' playbooks. Honestly, using the New England playbook is probably the most "accurate" thing to do this year, if you want to match what the Bills are running in real life. If you pick Buffalo's playbook, you'll just be running last year's Dennison scheme. Yuck. Gosh, you got me. Bringing offseason optimism to a football discussion forum. What on earth was I thinking?!

Everything the Bills have done at the DE position this year (bringing in Murphy, Fede, Odighizuwa, Russell, etc) suggests that Lawson is a goner. As I see it, they're lining up a list of potential backups to Trent Murphy. #90 is as good as gone. The writing is on the wall.

Here's the thing: It is possible to scheme up inferior offensive talent and get production out of them. Everyone knows the Bills offense lacks playmakers. With creative offensive playcalling, though, the likes of which Daboll is already demonstrating in camp, you can scheme guys open. Players like McCloud, Foster, Dupre, and Reilly are making plays in camp against a good defense because the playcalls are creative, the formations are put together with intent to create mismatches, and the playmakers we DO have (McCoy, Benjamin, Clay) are being moved around the formation. So anyone who says "Schemes don't matter, its all about execution!"...I disagree. I think schemes DEFINITELY matter. I think you're going to see the Bills offense improve from last year not based on upgraded talent, but based on creative playcalling and exploitation of mismatches. That's Daboll.

Seeing reports from camp so far of the Bills' offense featuring multiple RPOs, sprintouts, triple option looks, ample pre-snap motion, empty sets out of 21 personnel, formations that force mismatches... Could it be that for the first time in what feels like, I dunno...20 years or so...the Buffalo Bills could actually run a modern NFL offense?! I know, I know, it seems impossible. But I am absolutely LOVING what I'm hearing/seeing so far in terms of formations, concepts, and personnel. Very encouraging!

If we're going young, then 30-year-old journeyman Streater does nothing for me. Also, you left out Dupre, who is getting lots of first team reps and impressing. For me: Benjamin Zay Kerley Reilly Dupre Foster Ray Ray Proehl to practice squad. If they only keep 6 WRs, then drop Kerley.

Right. As I said above, I agree. But there was some discussion that Astro might not be doing the reports this year. If that's the case, what I presented is the next best option.

Agreed. But their updates are INSTANT. Within seconds of a quarterback hitting the hospitality tent with an errant pass, you'll know about it!

Sign up for Twitter. Follow Sal, Joe Buscaglia, Matthew Fairburn. Boom. Instantaneous camp play-by-play.

I had a feeling once Mayfield signed yesterday that Allen would be soon to follow. Darnold, meanwhile, says he will not report to camp for the Jets until his contract is signed.

I disagree. I feel that it's a new phenomenon -- it began with the advent of the rookie wage scale. Prior to the rookie wage scale, QBs drafted in the top 10 made huge money right out of the gate. Nowadays, they're so cheap for five years that you can afford to OVERspend on a bunch of other players/positions. The hope is that once you finally have to pay the QB, he's good enough to carry the team, and then it doesn't hurt so much that you have to make cuts across the board to afford the QB.

I think the biggest reason the Bills went 9-7 and made the playoffs last year is that they won the turnover battle by a significant margin and rarely turned the ball over. That has proven over and over again to be a winning recipe. The move from Tyrod Taylor (risk averse, but a good protector of the football) to Josh Allen ("Favre says always go for a touchdown", will almost certainly turn the ball over a lot more than Tyrod) is an incredibly interesting one. Talk about a drastic change for your offense!