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To be honest -- especially given how much cheaper he would've been -- I would've rather the Bills signed Bridgewater than McCarron. Oh well. Doesn't matter now.

He is quite clearly just a placeholder DT for the remaining preseason games or however long it takes Kyle to return to the field.

Well... The Bills started the game with four straight 3-and-outs on offense, were getting gashed by Cleveland on defense, and were down by 7 on the scoreboard. After that, they scored on three straight drives, mostly shut down the Cleveland offense, and wound up winning the game. So which of those segments represent the "real 2018 Bills"? Just curious.

MAJBobby said it, so it must be true. Case solved. Everyone can go to bed now.

Lotulelei? Really? How about Tremaine Edmunds just running into the defensive linemens' back every play?!

I've already said this so many times, but I'll say it one more: The Bills DID earn their way into the playoffs. ONE MORE LOSS anywhere in the season and they don't get in. They beat a Broncos team that was 2-0 and playing hot at the time. They beat the playoff-bound Falcons IN Atlanta. They took care of the Raiders and Bucs at home. The Bucs game, in particular, was NOT a gimme. After a horrible midseason stretch, they rebounded and beat the Chiefs in a crucial game AT ARROWHEAD! They beat the Colts at home, which if you've forgotten, is a game they almost lost. They then won enough of the remaining games that they needed to win, including sweeping the Dolphins. Also winning a must-win week 17 game is never a gimme, especially for the Buffalo Bills. Yes, it took the help of the Bengals to put them into the playoffs. However, by winning the games they won throughout the year, they put themselves into position to be the beneficiaries of the Bengals win. Again, had they lost ONE MORE GAME anywhere in the season, they wouldn't have made the playoffs. They were a well-coached team, beat some quality opponents, and made the playoffs with an arguably inferior roster. It happened. Let's move on.

Bills, Jets, Browns, and Cardinals fans should all just cool it until their shiny new QBs face real regular season action. Until then, we don't know squat.

This.

I feel like this thread should be called "lone Crimson Tide fan battles dozens of realistic Bills fans". ALL OF US are rooting for him to succeed. What Bills fan in their right mind WOULDN'T want a big, fast, talented receiver to do well and earn a role on offense? All everyone seems to be saying is that he needs some seasoning, he has some things to improve on, and he might not make the 53-man roster based on some drops and concentration lapses that have been happening for about two weeks now. No one says he can't EVER succeed or is a bum, just that he has a lot of work to do to make the roster. Why is that something that must be fought tooth and nail for 11 pages? Sheesh.

I believe I read that Leonard Johnson was one of the worst graded nickel corners in the entire league last season. Given how cheap he would have been to re-sign and the fact that he already knows the scheme and the coaches, you have to think there's a REASON they didn't bring him back. I believe they view Gaines/Taron as upgrades. Time will tell if they were correct. For what it's worth, I wish they had re-signed EJ Gaines. He was a BIG part of our defensive success last year, injury woes or not.

Crazy that she died on the same date as Elvis Presley and Babe Ruth. A good day to die.

You're an idiot.

I, like most Bills fans, was excited about Foster being signed and was rooting for him to succeed. Thus far, his issues with drops and concentration lapses all through camp have him in danger of not making the roster. To be honest, Coleman's addition has also sort of made Foster expendable. If you assume the following WR roster, I'm not sure how there's room for him: Benjamin Jones Kerley Holmes Coleman That leaves one or MAYBE two roster spots at WR. To date, Rod Streater and Cam Phillips both seem to have outplayed Foster...at least insofar as consistency and actually CATCHING THE BALL are concerned. And then we know the staff likes Brandon Reilly a lot, as well. Where does Foster fit? He needs to have a big next three preseason games if he wants a roster spot.

Just wanted to pop in to say that this thread is a nuanced palette of assumptions, ignorant comments, victim shaming, and thinly veiled misogyny. Well done, all of you.

That was last year. This year was....a guy with a weird name.

The only problem is that the coaching staff will need to decide the last couple roster spots at WR, and will still be evaluating that position during game four. It's hard to evaluate if you don't have a QB that can get them the ball. On the other hand, though, wasn't there a UDFA QB at rookie camp along with Allen? If they're looking to do this, he'd be the logical choice.

Or it could be because Thomas, Croom, and Lee are all faster, stronger, better at blocking, and have outplayed O'Leary in camp and preseason. ....Nahhhh, I'm sure you right. It's a private vendetta. Or maybe McDermott is more of an Arnold Palmer fan.

I'll keep saying it: The Bills' 7th round pick at WR this year was Austin Proehl. You don't get guys as physically talented as Coleman in the 7th round. You just don't. And if he doesn't work out, you've lost basically nothing. It's a teeny-tiny risk, extremely high reward acquisition. Personally, I believe he's going to flourish as the deep threat in this offense. He was EXACTLY what the Bills WR room needed. Coleman opposite Benjamin with Zay or Kerley in the slot, McCoy at RB, and Clay at TE is going to prove to be a legitimate NFL offense...so long as one of the three QBs on the Bills roster turns out to be a good player.

As always, Cover 1 does an excellent job with this video. As someone who was an admitted "anyone but Allen!" guy, I can't deny that Josh Allen has absolutely other-worldy talent. Off the charts. The arm might be the strongest we've EVER seen in the NFL, and that's not an exaggeration. But ya know what I REALLY like about Allen? He's fearless. He has absolutely 0% hesitation in him when he thinks he can make a throw. Now yes, that IS going to get him into trouble at times and cause some frustrating turnovers. But when he's right -- and make no mistake about it, his physical talent allows him to complete throws that he shouldn't even be ATTEMPTING -- it's a sight to behold. You can't teach guts and fearlessness at the QB position. You either have it or you don't. Allen has it.

When people talk about arm strength, I so often see the argument "Well how often do NFL QBs throw deep anyway?!", as if to discount it as an important trait. Here's the thing: Arm strength is not primarily ABOUT his ability to throw the deep ball. It's about his ability to fit the ball into tight spaces and to get the ball to the receiver before the defender has a chance to make a play on it. For visual representation, watch Peterman throw a curl or 5-yard out, then watch Allen do it. Watching the preseason game, I didn't care a lick about the two incomplete deep balls Allen threw. I was much more interested in the over-the-middle throw, the touchdown throw, and the play where he was fading away and hit Khari Lee. THOSE were the throws that showed the importance of arm strength.

To me, if a QB has "area code" accuracy, he'll ALWAYS have "area code" accuracy. Josh Allen's inaccuracy isn't of the "he can't function as an NFL QB" variety, in my opinion. It IS, however, often placed where his WR has to make an adjustment to catch it. Just a little behind, a bit low, a bit high, etc. What this does is limit the WR's ability to run after the catch and gain additional yardage. On a slant pattern, for instance, an accurate throw in stride can be the difference between an 8 yard gain and a 48 yard gain, simply based on the placement of the pass. As such, I believe Allen CAN be a good NFL quarterback in the mold of a Cam Newton. I do NOT ever see his "area code" accuracy improving. Bills WRs will likely never be RAC all-stars as long as Allen's under center. All of this is just my opinion, of course, and I freely admit I could be way off base.

Just wanted to say this: Bills fans are going to need to learn to let the criticism of the national media as it relates to Josh Allen just roll off their backs. The only thing that will silence those who seem to have a vested interest in his failing, is his having real success in the NFL. In the meantime, there will be a multitude of haters, mockery, and criticisms (both fair and unfair). It's just NOT going to go away unless and until Allen becomes a good NFL player. There's no sense in getting upset about it. Don't forget that most BILLS fans were anti Josh Allen (myself included) leading up to the draft. His donning the blue and red has changed a lot of opinions on this message board, but that doesn't mean that it's changed the opinions of any national media members. It's not exactly a mystery why people still have an "until proven otherwise, he stinks" mindset about Josh Allen. Let it go.

Phew. From "new poster" to "ignore list" in RECORD time. Well done, troll.