Logic

Didn't he talk his way off the Vikings because he refused to take a pay cut and was frustrated with lack of usage? Are we willing to pay him $9 million and give him the starting job?

I disagree with pretty much all of this.

I can't help but feel that Buffalo was the perfect fit for Watt. Between the team culture, the fact that he'd get to play for McDermott and Frazier (who would surely put him in position to succeed), the fact that our great medical facilities and the way the Bills rotate D-linemen would likely extend his career, and the fact that the Bills are LEGITIMATE Super Bowl contenders (as opposed to the Cardinals)....It would have been an awesome addition. I imagined Watt doing for the Bills defense what Diggs did for the Bills offense, from a "setting an example", leadership, and productivity standpoint. All that having been said, $15million is an awful lot for a 32-year-old player with an injury history. In the end, Watt chose weather, money, and to play in a defensive scheme with which he is familiar and to join a teammate with whom he is familiar. Such is life. On to the next "Free Agent Watch 2021" candidate.

Never trust a man with two first names. *Suddenly remembers that our quarterback is named Josh Allen" Ah, shoot....

Just about every great coach in NFL history has been fired multiple times. I’m not saying Daboll is great, but using past firings as a defining criteria is reductive and silly.

Agreed. I’d rather see them put the money toward re-signing Daryl Williams. Protecting Allen is my top priority, and I’d hate to see them let a very good 29 year old right tackle walk away just to have to turn around and use a premium draft asset to replace him.

I stand corrected. Thanks. The Diana Russini report is all I'm going off of. If it's true, and there are offers for 15 or 16 million per year, I can't imagine him taking much less.

This. It's how Beane always does things. It's smart. It makes sense. Why NOT devote every ounce of mental power and work hours to free agency and the draft (the two most important roster-building aspects of the offseason) before taking care of extensions -- especially one as complex and consequential as what Allen will likely be signing.

Discussing how the Buffalo Bills' successful stadium attendance policy could serve as a model for other venues around the country? I mean, if the mods want to delete it, I understand. But it's certainly relevant to discuss on a Buffalo Bills message board, and it's not as if there is any other news to post at this time of year.

I have a general policy as it relates to the draft: I never, ever get mad at the Bills for drafting big uglies. No matter what else changes in the NFL, games are still won and lost in the trenches. OL and DL are never "sexy picks", but they are crucial to sustained success. Look no further than the result of this year's Super Bowl for proof positive.

If the price tag really is around $16-17 Million, I think I'm out. I mean...that's a lot of cheddar for a 32 year old player who hasn't played a full season in three years.

This article is currently on the front page of Politico.com. If it is not welcome due to its discussion of COVID and the fact that that tends to lead to political argument, please feel free to move or delete it. I debated about whether or not to post it at all, but ultimately decided it was relevant, constituted potentially positive news, and was worth sharing. It seems the Bills' playoff game attendance strategy as it relates to COVID was extremely successful, to the point that is now being looked to as a model for re-opening other venues across the state and country. Buffalo Bills' COVID Touchdown Could be the Key to Unlocking Some Normalcy "On game day, masked fans had to show proof of their negative result, along with their mobile ticket, to enter the stadium through designated gates in assigned 10-minute increments to prevent crowding at the turnstiles. Thermal imaging cameras, meanwhile, scanned crowds at checkpoints to help identify fans who might have a fever. Once inside, fans, who were limited to either two- or four-seat pods, were further restricted to certain zones of the stadium and offered limited, cashless concession stand options through 10 p.m. in accordance with the state’s dining curfew. The strategy worked. About 1.5 percent of the fans tested positive before the game and were denied entry. In the weeks that followed, no outbreaks were tied to the games. New York is now working to expand the Bills strategy to reopen other large venues that have been shuttered since last March. A first test came earlier this week when Madison Square Garden and the Barclays Center became the first indoor arenas in New York to host NBA games, with maximum capacity set at 10 percent of available seats for fans with recent negative Covid tests. If all goes well, New York is hoping to extend the protocol to allow the resumption of weddings, concerts and eventually, Broadway shows, amusement parks and summer camps."

I do wonder if Watt’s friendship with Vrabel and the lure of Nashville as a place to live (as opposed to )Buffalo or Green Bay steer him to the Titans in the end.

I get it. Me? During the offseason, I’ll take any Bills content that I can get, even if it comes with an annoying interviewer. I ESPECIALLY want to listen if I can glean some hints about roster construction in the offseason. To each their own.

https://player.fm/series/the-cris-collinsworth-podcast-featuring-richard-sherman/brandon-beane-joins-to-talk-about-drafting-josh-allen-trading-for-stefon-diggs-being-pffs-gm-of-the-year-salary-cap-implications-and-much-more I know, I know: Chris Collinsworth is the worst. That said, his interview of Brandon Beane is worth the listen. Richard Sherman is also a sit-in guest on the whole show, and hearing his praise of Josh Allen, Tre, Diggs, and the Bills’ culture is cool. Beane also has some high praise for Dane Jackson. Says they really have high hopes for him. Oh, and it sure sounds to me like Milano is a goner. Lots of good offseason tidbits. Give it a listen!

For one thing, I don't blame men who put their physical health on the line for wanting to get the most money they possibly can for them and their families. Playing football is a JOB, after all. I'm guessing you wouldn't knowingly take much less than you're worth in YOUR occupation just to "support a good culture". Another thing: Players "back in the day" literally did not even have the option to go anywhere else. Free agency didn't exist. It was either take what you're offered and play for your team, or don't play at all. If a free agent is weighing a few options and the money difference between Team A and Team B is negligible, then sure, leave a little money on the table to stick with or move to the team with the best chance of winning and the good culture. If it's a BIG difference, though, and this is maybe your one and only shot to secure a life changing contract that can set your family and your children and their children up for life? I can't blame these men one bit for thinking family first.

Good thread idea. Having been furloughed for about a year now, I've been doing an absurd amount of reading. As such: Logic's Current Top Five Favorite Books of All Time (which might change by next week): 1. Be Here Now by Ram Dass 2. Grist for the Mill by Ram Dass 3. The Book on the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are by Alan Watts 4. Dharma Bums by Jack Kerouac 5. The Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton Wilson I know, I know. You're absolutely shocked that a guy with a Grateful Dead avatar is into Ram Dass and Kerouac and Watts.

Between 2009 and 2016, 22 quarterbacks were drafted in the first round. ZERO of them remain with the team that drafted them. Zero. The draft is a crapshoot. Glad we seem to have gotten it right with Allen.

I just don’t see why people still want to draft running backs in round 1in the year 2021. Unless they are rare dual threat talents like Saquon Barkley or Christian McCaffrey — and your team is otherwise so good/stacked that you can afford the luxury — I don’t see the logic or value.

Coming out, Epenesa seemed like a 5T to me, and I’m still worried that we’re forcing a square peg into a round hole with him.

It’s weird... I am generally in the “we’ve already tried giving big contracts to old guys at EDGE, what we need is youth and juice and to find, draft, and grow our OWN stars there” camp, and yet... I find myself hoping that Watt sings with the Bills. He seems like a perfect culture fit, an instant jolt of leadership, and a mentor for Epenesa and hopefully another youngster yet to be drafted. Seeing JPP play a crucial role in TB’s Super Bowl run has me caring a little less about the age factor. Besides, it seems unlikely that the Bills can find a blue chip EDGE picking at 30.

I’d like to see the BLUE (home) 60s throwback be brought back for a bit instead. I love the all-white throwback, but it’s time to shake things up a bit.

In response to those who dislike how few players get into the pro football Hall of Fame each year, I present the counter argument: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Seems like they let in anyone with a pulse and a microphone. Yuck.

I will root against him because his family is deeply obnoxious, yes. I root against opposing players for all sorts of reasons. Here's another reason that I'll root against Pat: He and his family seem to be of the "gloat/flex when things are going well, pass the blame when things are going poorly" sort. Note: I'm not saying I wish ill on the man in real life or anything. When it comes to his performance on a football field, yes, I will root against him.

Mahomes' mom and girlfriend have single-handedly made me want to root against him. I previously held no animosity towards him, but seeing those two obnoxious humans making a scene all the time, I now root for him to lose strictly to upset them. They are, without a shadow of a doubt