Boatdrinks

It appears the number of actual cases/ infections are extremely underreported. The death numbers are even more skewed by NYC and NJ , where the fatalities are much higher than other regions. People are going to continue to take precautions, so I don’t think that number of deaths is anywhere near a certainty. Hopefully there are effective treatments long before a vaccine.

The side effects are well known, as the drug has been around for years. Trump may have said / implied it couldn’t hurt when there are no known treatments.

Be prepared to wait a long , long time. There may not be a vaccine for years, if ever. Is there a vaccine for any other known Corona virus ? I mean , there’s a flu shot but it doesn’t make you immune to the flu.

So you’re not voting for Trump in November, and you probably didn’t in 2016. Thanks for letting us know.

I am not, but then again I don’t do twitter or other social media. Many do though, and I’d expect this kind of thing to become more common as things go on.

None of us know what might plunge another into despair. Of course , it’s all personal. The virus is a personal thing too. Many will have no symptoms, some will have a mild cold or cough, others will get extremely sick for a time, and others will ultimately succumb to it. Completely depending on individual health and genetics, and therefore personal. Everyone will be exposed to it eventually, like the common cold or influenza.

She keeps asking about screening, but I don’t think business will be screening nearly the amount that some people think. It’s just not a realistic proposition. Perhaps waivers will need to be signed for gyms, etc. A temperature screening is probably about it. We’re not going to be able to test people on the spot to enter establishments etc.

Sadly, this will become more common as shutdowns continue.

It is a good thing, for sure. If a Dem was in power, we’d have a new green deal or whatever , more public transportation to spread Covid19 like wildfire, free money to stay out of work for another year or more , no airlines , food lines and maybe reparations too.

It’s a potentional problem, yes. However, one would have to prove that accepted guidelines weren’t being followed. It will also be difficult to prove just where someone became infected. In short, no one has a legal right not to become sick through random chance, or to be infected by someone who didn’t even know they had an illness. I’m sure lawyers will have a field day finding people to blame for someone else’s bad luck.

Your assumptions about this have no basis in reality. They’re based on a false choice, a false hope. Lockdowns and staying home another 4-8 weeks isn’t likely to save many if any lives. It will simply change the date of illness and probably of death. Not only are we not building herd immunity while shuttered indoors, but we’re tanking the economy even further into the abyss. We won’t be any meaningful measure safer from Covid 19 in two to three months than we are now. Coronavirus is now part of our overall landscape, whether or not you want to admit it to yourself. Yes, more people are going to die from this. There won’t be a vaccine anytime soon; perhaps not ever. Treatments will eventually emerge, but the economy isn’t designed to shut down for an extended period of time, nor is government set up to continually pay it’s citizenry to be idle. No, Covid19 will now just have to be factored into our daily risk tolerance. Some may stay holed up in a cave for years or whatever, but most will eventually say they’d rather go on with their lives and do what they wish. There were large gatherings and sports events, theaters and bars in previous eras where the risk of disease and death were far greater. Indeed, life expectancy was much shorter largely due to disease.

I’d expect that our health care professionals have given their best whichever area of the country they are in. I think the mortality rate is far more likely to be influenced by the general health of the patient and by individual genetic factors that we may not even know about yet. Many deaths were patients with underlying health issues but some were not. Some have even referenced on this board young and athletic individuals with extreme symptoms. So it seems likely that even with good overall health, some could have an unknown genetic vulnerability to Coronavirus. Just as it appears a significant percentage of the population will have no symptoms at all.

Great, a self isolating sports-less offseason and still the main subject on sports TV is Brady and Gronkowski.

Shouldn’t Trump love the uneducated ? Don’t they matter to Libs ? Certainly some of those uneducated are minorities, whom the Libs say Trump doesn’t care about because he’s racist, right? Anyway, while Trump likely has some support there, many of us Trump supporters are indeed educated. We just happen to be a bit older, and got our education when that meant something other than being indoctrinated . When we were thought to think critically for ourselves. We weren’t told that gender is fluid, Government involvement is best and should always be trusted, caucasians are racist and bad, criminals are victims, PC is a virtue and we deserve a safe space when “ triggered”. Those who received that type of “ education” probably don’t like Trump.

NYC was shutdown also. They don’t appear to have been spared at all. The lockdowns probably helped somewhat, but the degree could vary widely. Anyway, we’re just going to have to unshackle the country sooner than later. It seems the Coalition of Governors are trying to shield themselves from individual criticism by taking a vastly regional approach. True. I never listened directly to much that the Obaminator had to say. Lefties hang on every word, getting massively triggered by the minute. Weird way to live.

Mostly in NYC and perhaps one or two other areas. The impact of the virus has been much greater in just a few states/ cities. That cannot be ignored.

I don’t disagree with his message. Yes, it is directed at the Governors and I have doubts he will actually take action. But he’s sending a message and I absolutely don’t disagree with it. He’s making a point. You don’t care for his style, but I do.

If you lean even slightly libertarian, you’re likely not happy with the heavy handed approach of the coalition of Leftist Governors. Trump’s statement in this case won’t be viewed so negatively. The LSM here in New York has been bombarding us with messages about how high Cuomo’s approval rating is. The real answer is it depends who you ask. I think Trump knew exactly what he was doing with his statement.

Biden barely has 10 functioning brain cells. He won’t be President, thank goodness. If he were, economic devastation would follow along with surrendering of liberties and a spiral into socialism. I see how you love the socialist Democratic Governors pooling together to save us from ourselves. It must suck to be that internally soft, Tibs ; to live in absolute fear of not having government protection from everything life might throw at you.

Just saw that the NYT put the Biden story on page 19. Hmmmmm. Probably the same page they put the Kavanaugh stories on awhile back.

Coronavirus appears to have a worse effect on those with underlying conditions. Americans, especially in certain regions aren’t a healthy lot. If you think the President or leader of a nation could have prevented Coronavirus , and especially deaths of those who were infected you’re just flat out wrong.

I like 1 and find 3 appealing for some reason.

K

They sure are ....Dems have yet to figure that out.

Can only imagine who you would trust/ recommend. Hunter Biden, perhaps ?