oldmanfan

If you can look at that picture and say he’s not working out then you have absolutely no objectivity.

Someone posted a picture of Josh just to show you how fit he is, and you ignore it. Why? What possible reason do you have to do that? Really? Because the stuff about Edmunds has gone in all off-season. Where have you been?

I struggle to understand this fan base sometimes. Many seem to actively search for ways to downplay the team’s fortunes and/or denigrate specific players, management and such. Examples include: 1. Ragging on for years on Edmunds, then as soon as he leaves in free agency ragging on Beane for not resigning or replacing him. 2. Ragging on Beane for not having a veteran guy behind Brown at RT, then ragging on him because the guy he got retired (as if Beane should be Nostradamus) then ragging on getting Ifedi as if we were going to get an All Pro. There are many such examples. But the last 24 hours or so have taken the cake, because who are we negative on now? Josh Allen. And why? Mainly because of two articles from the gasbag known as Jason Whitlock, the first of which he said was a lie, then the second of which he claims Josh doesn’t work hard enough and it’s supposedly well known. Throw in an interview with MacAfee where Josh specifically states he watches a lot of film but qualifies what he takes from it, and all of a sudden it’s Josh that is why the Bills haven’t won a Lombardi. It’s Josh who drinks too much (one incident with Kyle Allen), Josh who doesn’t work out, Josh who doesn’t spend enough time on football in the off-season (put your TV on and measure in minutes how long till you see Mahomes in a commercial). Or Josh impregnating waitresses, which no reputable news source has validated. All this leads me to ask: what the hell is wrong with some people around here? I am not saying Josh can’t improve. He needs to continue learning to take the short routes, get the ball out quicker, etc. but to claim he is now somehow the problem, that it’s his work ethic, that as one person said here that they don’t like Josh personally as if he actually has ever met the guy? Come on. I have thought for quite a long time there are folks on this board that really want the Bills to lose so they can somehow crow on a message board that they were right. I think some of the stuff we’re seeing is some bizarre defense mechanism people throw up as a guard should the Bills not win it all. Me? I’ve been a fan since 1960 when I was 5 years old. I will do as I’ve always done, enter the season with optimism and then see how things go. Offer praise when merited as well as criticism when merited. But to actively seek out reasons for negativism, even to the point of believing nonsensical crap to do so? I don’t get it.

You don’t have the slightest clue about his workout regimen. None whatsoever. Someone posted a picture of him with Davis to show his upper body tone and you keep on with this crap. Allen can improve, as can any player. He needs to learn to take check downs, get the ball out quicker. But to suggest the Bills aren’t winning Super Bowls because Josh isn’t committed is just nuts.

Well stated as usual. I would add the term Middle LB implies you have two other LB, one on either side. Hard to have a MLB with just 2 LBs on the field.

You claim to not like someone personally that you’ve never met. That is what is bizarre.

How well do you know him? How many times have you met?

Multiple times? Name them. With McAfee he specifically said “yeah, yeah” when asked if he does a lot of film. What he then said is he doesn’t get fixated on film because teams play the Bills offense differently than other offenses so he doesn’t want to get overly locked onto things in case they change just for the Bills offense.

Another legend gone. Sad to hear.

I promise he retires as a Bill

I’m fine with whomever

Just because he had experience in the system

Thought it might be Fromm but getting a guy that was coached by Reid works for me.

I agree with Poyer or Hyde.

Not just complain but be disappointed

Because we have drama queens around here. The OP talks about being a fan since 1963. I’ve been a fan since 1960. I still hold the memories of the AFL championships near to my heart. I lived through the horrors of the late 60’s-early 70’s and the late 70’s-early 80’s. I had the pleasure of watching the Juice and the Super Bowl era teams, and have watched the ups and downs in the 2000’s. I am excited to watch this year - with guys like Josh and Diggs and Miller and Milano we have as good a shot as anyone.

There are people on this board who want the Bills to lose so they can brag and say I told you so.

And Ramsey is hurt.

With the way the NFL is structured you cannot have All Pros at every spot on the O line. But that is what it appears people want. Morse is solid at C, the two new guys at G are significant upgrades, Dawkins has always been a decent LT, and Brown comes in for his third year injury free so we get a better chance to see what he can do. As for Ifidi everyone was screaming that we needed a veteran backup T, Beane gets one, and now everyone screams he’s not good enough. Do you think you were going to get a Pro Bowl quality guy after roster cuts? Too many fans live in a world of delusion. I believe in building from the inside out. I would criticize Beane for not getting Humphrey instead of Boogie. But the really good tackles go way before where we’ve been drafting.

I think both Kincaid and Torrance will make All Pro teams. Williams will be a solid starter. The other three will stay on rosters as backups.

Also true. But some never let facts get in the way of opinions. As far as team ownership and such my impression was always that Terry was a hockey nut and jumped at the chance to buy the Sabres, but it was Kim and her passion for the Bills growing up in WNY that drive them to buy the Bills.

Never say never. I think we are stronger at RB, TE, G, WR depth, and with an O coordinator with a year’s experience. Or to put it another way we did just what folks have been clamoring for and put more pieces around Josh.

Yes, predictions are what you do when looking into the future. We got a glimpse of the future for defense last year by the name of Levi. And he looked pretty damn good.

What they were saying here in Indy is that he refuses to be coached

Relax