oldmanfan

The latter

If you ever root for the Bills to lose to me you give up being a fan. As for surrounding with weapons, the last 3 drafts: Cook Kincaid Coleman

Brady Brian Cox Mark Gastineau Michael Irvin

Would you and the others cut the crap? Pathetic WRs? How about actually watching football? Samuel is good. Shakir is good. MVS has his moments. And we’ll see what we have in Coleman. You’re the guy begging the Bills to take a guy like Franklin in the 4th as if he was going to be the answer? Please. Let’s see how they all actually play.

If I have to pick one pass rushing DE/edge

Because if you had said Shakir is going to do better he would have then said Shakir is probably going to be #1. Or MVS. Or whomever. Anything to be negative. Just ignore him.

Will a 0-17 record meet your wishes?

Bills Mt Rushmore (if going on what the did for the franchise and if not taking into account degenerate murderers): Smith Kelly OJ Ralph If players alone (again if not taking into account degenerate murderers): Smith Kelly OJ Thomas If removing degenerate murderers: Smith Kelly Thomas Shaw

No problem. And Jairus deserves mention at safety.

Steve Young.

Butch Byrd was a CB. He and Booker Egerson were both great. Tre White was great. And Taron Johnson is a great slot CB. But after listing these I indicated I’d put Robert James in place of Taron. All 4 of these guys were better than Winfield or Odomes, although they both were very good.

Some other guys I thought about after my list that merit consideration: CB: I had Taron Johnson but I might switch to Robert James. Terrific corner. S: Had Saimes, Greene, Poyer, Hyde but Henry Jones should get mention here

Seeing as I’m one of the few here who have been watching since 1960 I’ll give it a shot: QB: Kelly, Allen, Kemp, Fergy. RB: OJ, Thurman, Cookie, McCoy (Cribbs very close) FB: Braxton, Gash, Centers, Carleton WR: Reed, Diggs, Moulds, Jerry Butler TE: Warlick, Metzelaars, MacKeller, Kincaid T: Dawkins, Wofford, Stew Barber, Ballard G: Shaw, Joe D, Brown, McKenzie Center: Hull, Wood, Morse, Bemiller DE: Bruce, McDole, Schoebel, Hughes DT: Sestak, Smerlas, K Williams, Washington MLB/ILB: Fletcher, Haslett, Harry Jacobs, Shane Nelson OLB: Milano, Bennett, Stratton, Paup CB: White, Byrd, Egerson, Taron Johnson S: Saimes, Greene, Poyer, Hyde Sure I missed some but these stand out to me.

McDole was DE. Jim Dunaway was DT with Sestak

Ralph saved the AFL, was a major player to get the merger done, and was responsible for getting the big TV contracts started. He earned his spot.

People are going to flame me for this one, but a guy I would consider removing is Marv Levy. Losing 4 in a row is not necessarily HOF worthy

I would remove Namath. And I would put in Tasker. Not being a Homer, but Tasker was the best special teams player ever. The best players are supposed to be in the HOF.

Fill your hand, you sonnuvabitch!

Another Shaw gem. I would comment on the safety issue. I think McD knows how to coach DBs extremely well, and when Hyde and Poyer arrived I recall thinking meh- just a couple of guys. But under McD’s tutelage they became arguably the best safety tandem in the league. I think he will do similar things with Rapp and Edwards , and eventually Bishop.

The guy I responded to wanted Franklin in the 4th

FWIW

The success of the offense is on Brady more than anyone.

Again try reading. My comment was specifically in response to a take that we should have double dipped and taken a chance on Franklin in the 4th. How is that different than already having a guy from the 5th last year? It’s not. Believing Franklin in the 4th (after he dropped a few rounds over projection) was an answer, while discounting other guys taken those rounds that are on the roster, is just silly. Seems to me Samuel, Shakir, and Coleman will be the first 3 guys on the field. Who the 4th guy would be probably won’t make a ton of difference unless a guy like Claypool gets his head out of his butt, or MVS shows up.

If Beane decides they need a guy like Lamb go get him. Fine by me. I suspect cap considerations and such will prevent that but if he makes a move such as that great. We will all applaud it. Everyone watches football. We all know we are not as brilliant as you but we still like to participate in the dialog.

I have said a number of times that the success of the offense will rely on Brady and how his schemes get guys open. I suspect a big part of that will be using the TEs and RBs more.