oldmanfan

Good point! I thought you meant get concussed and such. Guys were tough back then.

Another Shaw gem. And Graham seems to yet again be trying to make himself part of the story.

You said players from back then would get murdered. A torn ligament is hardly that. Plus they played on actual grass so that may have been better in terms of ligaments.

There is that…

The Dolphins have made a decision that paying a QB and WRs huge $$ is the answer. We’ll see but I think they fold in the playoffs again.

Guys were pretty tough back in the day

Not overly concerned right now.

Diggs is gone. And I seriously doubt he’d be gone if Josh had not been OK with the move.

Not really. Football in the 60’s was a completely different beast. DBs could do anything they wanted so passing was more difficult.

I saw him play as well. Actually caught a pass from him on autograph day. And he had a very strong arm.

Top 5. Can’t compare stats though because receivers could get mugged back then under the rules. Kemp would be a Josh-like guy with a great arm and running ability.

Yes. For example if you just take a guy like a Diggs was and put him outside it’s easier to put coverage on him there. When you have a lot of motion, different sets, etc. it’s not as easy.

I’m sure Beane is shaking in his boots. Brady wants to have an offense that makes it hard for defenses to predict where guys will be in the passing game. Not a bad idea.

Best news of the day was that Kim Pegula was there.

Show me the lies. With actual proof.

I’ve been saying the entire off-season the success or failure of the offense rests with the ability of Brady to scheme things.

I agree. I would say if they don’t like the way the WRs are shaping up Beane may go get a guy like Adams or Aiyuk in a trade. But doubtful. And this may be McDsput up or shut up year.

They got Diggs. They drafted Davis and drafted Shakir in lower rounds who were productive. They drafted now Coleman. They drafted a lower round guy again in Shorter who has yet to show his potential due to injury. Several years ago they brought in Beasley, Brown, Sanders in free agency. They brought several guys in as FAs this year. And of course brought in 2 TEs in Kincaid and Knox. They have worked on the WR position, but more through trades and FA vs. draft. When you say relative to the rest of the league it would be helpful to actually show data on that. He’ll be at best their second option. We’ll see how he does. His competitive spirit could either cause him to do great this year or make Stroud’s life miserable demanding the ball all the time.

Thanks for a reasonable take vs. some of the hyperbolic stuff we’ve seen. Let me respond in kind. As I’ve stated previously, the biggest difference in this awe corps is not having Diggs. The question then is which Diggs will we be missing: the Diggs of his first few years or the Diggs of the last part of last season? Greg Cosell is a guy whose opinions I value, and he has stated Diggs was not commanding as much attention the last half of the season. Or, in the vernacular, he was no longer a “#1WR”. In contrast, we saw Shakir’s production make a huge jump the latter half of the year. So can Shakir now fill Diggs’ shoes? Maybe not the Diggs of 2-3 years ago, but the Diggs from last year I’d say so. The other loss was Davis. From a receiving standpoint certainly guys like Samuel or MVS or Coleman can do as well. We may miss Davis more from a blocking perspective than from a receiving perspective. Any discussion of the Bills receiving corps has to not just focus on WRs but on the extent of ALL those in the passing game. So Kincaid had an outstanding rookie year and should be poised for more. That is not unreasonable. Nor is it unreasonable to think Knox offers a second productive receiving presence in two TE sets. Then you throw in Cook and possibly Davis. Frustration has been shown over the Bills not surrounding Allen with talent and prioritizing defense. But they traded for Diggs, drafted Cook and Kincaid and now Coleman with day 1 or 2 picks, and added to the O line to protect him either by FA (Morse, McGovern) or the draft (Torrence). So there has been effort made. I would also argue you can’t treat this as an either/or situation: you can only focus on offense vs. defense. You have to have both; the Chiefs showed that last year and of course historically this is the case. The Bills have not drafted a really high end WR because of their success: they have been in the low end of round one for a while so those guys go early. Could they have moved up? Sure, but at the sacrifice of other spots. One of the things I find curious is how many folks are convinced Worthy will be such a huge hit for the Chiefs, and equally convinced that a guy drafted just a couple positions lower in Coleman (who Josh apparently really wanted) will be a bust. We will see starting this week how Brady constructs the office. And if the receivers look suspect I think Beane will look to make a move. I don’t think he’ll need to however.

Except for going 6-1 as interim OC and 1-1 in the playoffs for the Buffalo Bills

And got their first shot as an OC as well.

We have a lot of Nostradamus wannabes on this board. If they were as good at predicting the future as they think, they would be on their private island sipping cocktails after making a fortune on Wall Street. So we’ll see how Brady does. The guys mentioned above all started at some point as well.

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Amen. Camp starts this week. We’ll know soon enough.

When you pretend to make sense let us know.