oldmanfan

If you honestly believe any HC of any pro sport bases their personnel decisions on the feelings of fans, then you have a very inflated view of what fans are.

Let's just say this is highly, highly doubtful.

Not sure you can coach separation. You can certainly coach route running. Guys that played with Brady would talk about how he'd go nuts if you were supposed to run a ten yard out and you broke at 9 yards.

You could have put all the names of the guys that didn't have a job in a hat, and just drawn any name. They're all the same guy.

Taron Johnson is working out OK as the slot CB as well

Ha ha ha

He does look good right now. But you're just being ridiculous if you think anyone will believe you felt he was a HOFer before the draft

I'll take your word for it but I also know they're were people thinking he'd be just another Texas Tech failure, who now swear they were his biggest fans predraft.

And plenty of people were skeptical. You pull your predraft opinion out of the archives and show me

It wasn't obvious then and it's not obvious now

Good discussion. When looking at the Glenn thing, you have to look at the whole picture. They knew they had to move up to get the guy they wanted, and there were only so many teams to have discussion with to do so. As it turns out Cincy was the one, and then you have to take into consideration their needs when discussing trades. They needed an LT, we had one that was hurt pretty much all last year plus we had a young guy to take that spot. So that made sense. Kind of a win-win, they got a player they needed, we got the position to take the QB we needed. As far as the rest of the line, they did bring in Bodine to play C when Wood retires. Amy not be the best guy out there, but I don't think there were many options at C in free agency. And Richie went nuts; could not have predicted that. I explained going into the regular season with two young QBs; they shouldn't have. We are just disagreeing on who the third guy should have been.

shady may be hitting that point in his career where he will be more effective in a complementary role. I liked seeing him and Ivory in the game at the same time last week. Shady is still a matchup nightmare for defenses when he's split out wide.

I'm hoping Tiller or Bottinger step up at G. I can't imagine they won't use some cap space on the O line and at WR.

You apparently did not actually read the article in the OP. The author specifically talks about Daboll doing a good job but being hamstrung by the talent. You can agree or not, but it would be nice for folks to read articles referred to before commenting.

I think Allen played better than McCarron, not just Peterman. And when they saw that and realized McCarron might be watching, McCarron wanted no part of that. So they got an asset for him. And at that point yes they should have signed a vet who could have been a mentor type,

So just ignore what they see on the field and in practice. That makes no sense. And I was fully behind McCarron coming here. I do agree about bringing a guy in when he got traded and have said so repeatedly.

Glad you think that. I suspect (actually I'm positive) there are others here that really want to see him fail.

Absolutely. If I were them I'd be doing the same thing. But in a few years say they can't replenish their roster and start to fade, I am sure their fans will start calling for McVay's head.

Like I said I don't expect him to do well. But it would be nice to see, right?

You unfortunately are one of the people who would be included in the shut them up list. I just don't understand d why this kid throws up on himself. And I certainly hope Daboll does not give him looks where he has to throw that our pattern again.

Good for them that they're going all in, and if it works great. I just think historically it's hard to have a consistent winning team if you trade away a lot of your picks and rely on cap games and one time FAs. But we'll see.

Well, some of this is just not true. They did address Wood for example by getting Bodine. Trading Glenn? You ignore he was hurt all of last year with a big cap number, and that trading him allowed them to move up to get Allen. Plus Dawkins was already there ready to take over. Maybe you could have moved Glenn inside, true. And I agree with the WR stuff, although again that was partially due to their cap space philosophy. And they did try to get guys like John Brown. I think your assumption that McCarron would have gotten us 2-3 more wins is wildly optimistic. And I say that as one who assumed McCarron would be that kind of guy. He simply showed little if anything in pre-season. Why do people say that the team should have ignored Peterman's good preseason and known he would have been bad., and if the same breath assume McCarron would have been good in the regular season even though he was bad in preseason?

Right. Sure.

I hope the kid comes out and shuts people up on Sunday. I don't expect it, but I just hope he remembers how he played in preseason and transmits that to Sunday, instead of throwing up all over himself again.

Good stuff as always Shaw. Couple things. One, don't worry about Edmunds. It was a big hit and he got helmet to helmet on the guy. That will cause a concussion in anyone. Second, we have a problem at QB of course, but not much can be done right now. Anderson made some plays but also made mistakes, which is why journeyman QBs are called journeyman QBs. Wouldn't make a difference what name you put on the guy, Anderson, Sanchez, Barkely, Moore, that is what happens when you start reaching down into the bottom of the barrel because of injuries to your starting QB. Backup QBs just don't do much in the league.