oldmanfan

I guess my question would be how one defines strong ownership. Some like Kraft get more involved in day to day things and are successful and others like Snyder or Jerry aren't successful. Some stay hands off and it works, some don't.

Manziel would not be a better QB for any team in the NFL.

Give me Jones as a starter, he's getting better. I would let Clay go but I think his contract means he's here one more year.

Good God. He either went to see Andrews or they had Andrews review his MRI etc. and he said he doesn't need surgery. Does it absolutely guarantee he may not? No. But he was evaluated thoroughly. Enough of the conspiracy theories.

Listen to the interview. He said I don't know how many times that it's week to week. He mentioned in passing that he can't guarantee when he'd come back, only that they are going to be careful and be sure he's ready to go. The conspiracy theorists are out in full force today.

And what exactly would make them better owners? Should they go out and hire a retread coach that in his first HC gig bombed in Cleveland? Should they hope to draft a QB in the 6th round that turns out to be the best ever? They screwed the pooch with the Ryan hire. No question. So they have brought in a young new HC that was on everyone's short list, and also a young GM that had earned his stripes and his shot. They presented a plan to the owners, and they are following through. Whether it works or not is an open question as it would have been for anyone they hired. And the guys they hired broke the playoff drought last year. They're doing the same with their hockey team, which is showing signs that they are becoming a good team this year. So, again, what exactly should they be doing? Oh, and I did all that without using capital letters.

This kind of stuff should be banned from the board. Right. Beane finagled a way to have Wood come up with a spinal condition that threatened his career and life. And he somehow arranged for Richie to lose his mind. Crafty guy, that Beane. And if he works out it will be brilliant.

You know why they don't have a rookie paying on offense right now? Because the rookie QB is hurt. The rookie QB. That pretty much everyone claiming to be a BIlls fan has yelled since the retirement of Jimbo that they had to try and get if they want to go anywhere.

I was one of them. As were many other individuals here and more importantly many other teams in the league.

I get where you're coming from, but the offense really is bad. I'm not sure there were that many things that could have been done, but the O is just terrible.

It will take more than one offseason. One can only assume they focus on offense this coming offseason.

I imagine he'd bring in Winston. Back in the day on the BBMB he had indicated a team should trade their whole draft to get the guy.

The offense is bad. Absolutely. It hurt when they lost two interior linemen in the offseason. It hurts that Benjamin is not stepping up. It looks like Shady may be starting to feel his age. And it hurt that our young QB got hurt. All those add together to make things look bad. Now, what would the fixes have been? Let's talk O line first. Quality O linemen are at an extreme premium across the league right now. They thought Groy would be a capable C, and they got what might have been the only other available decent guy at the position in Bodine. Drafted Teller and picked up Boettiger for the interior, but they're apparently not ready yet, although I would like to see them in there. So O line I'm not sure there was much else to do, maybe draft a guy in round 3 vs. Phillips, but Phillips is a solid addition to the D line. WRs? Benjamin is half assing it, and they should trade him today in my opinion. Jones is coming on. They should have kept Kerley I think. And they should have maybe kept Reilly, although no one else apparently thinks he's worth much. Again, there are a bunch of guys who are guys out there. You can change the deck chairs on the Titanic, like bringing in Pryor, but it's still the Titanic. QB. They were not going to be in the market ever for guys like Keenum because they were not going to lock up a ton of cap space when they knew they were drafting their guy. I have said over and over they expected, as did I. that McCarron should have been their guy but he didn't perform. And at that point in time, they should have gotten a guy like Anderson in, or traded for a guy like say Bridgewater, although he was already gone by then. Arguments can be made for and against starting Allen early, and his injury? Injuries happen. If he's not hurt then I don't know if our record is any different, but he's getting experience. And I am quite sure that no matter who they brought in as a vet QB, and presuming he plays while Allen sits, that their record is any different than it is now. McDermott and Beane have been as clear as they can be. They consider it a rebuild, and they have a ton of cap space and picks next year. Believe me, if they don't use the bulk of that ammunition to improve the offense I'll be screaming as loud as anyone. And if I'm Terry I'd lose my mind. But as for this season, I'm just not sure there was a lot they could have done to improve things all tat much.

Because facts are dangerous things around here.

It always makes me laugh when folks around here talk about the worst in the history of the team for whatever factor they want to rant about that day, when they clearly have no clue as to the actual history of the team. As long as Harvey Johnson is part of Bills history, the title of worst GM in history is secure. So now we're judging WRs by tackles broken. Honestly, take your rug out and start nap time early today.

McCoy I think. Be sad to see him go but to be honest right now Ivory is playing better.

So let's say they have Anderson from the time they traded McCarron, which I agre they should have done - gotten a vet in earlier. Hos exactly would that have changed things?

No I don't think it's odd. He's week to week. That means there's uncertainty when he returns. I suspect they'll be careful bringing him back before he's ready. I think you're reading too much into this.

I hope your rant helps you feel better. Now for reality: Beane is not getting fired tomorrow.

After the second Super Bowl game.

Because he's week to week. If the docs aren't sure, why do you think Beane would be?

They've had Landry Jones in for a look. I imagine he'd be a logical choice.

It's been downhill ever since Gifford, Dandy Don, and Howard were there.

Sprains are stretches or tears in a ligament. I know your son I believe had a ligament injury but you need to quit projecting what's going on with Allen based on your limited personal history. They have had him checked out and they say it's week to week. No reason for them to lie. Why> because a guy gets hurt they should be fired? This firing nonsense needs to stop. YEs fans are frustrated but they are not firing Beane nor are they firing McDermott anytime soon.

On the 3rd and 8 they were blitzing big time so not a terrible call. Looked like Shady had a hole where he could have made the yards. It's a very frustrating year. People go nuts over the QB situation but the only thing they should have done differently was bringing in a vet like Anderson when they traded McCarron. Bottom line is either they were going to have their rookie play this year and deal with his up and downs, or a backup type like Anderson that is a backup for a reason. Wouldn't be different if it was McCarron or whomever.