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The question may have come up between Allen and the coaching staff already IMO. Myself personally, If I'm HC McD I want Peterman and McCarron helping in Josh Allens development not competing against him. The only way to do that would be to eliminate Allen from the QB competition at this point IMO.

The highest wonderlic score out of the QB class. The strongest arm out of the QB class. ( may have the strongest arm the NFL has ever seen) Big, athletic, courageous, calm under pressure. Shows good leadership abilities. Wins football games. Looked good with better talent around him at the Senior bowl. Sure it was a gamble, a roll of the dice, but If Buffalo wants to end the search for a franchise QB these are the kind of chances a team has to take IMO. There's allot to like about this kid in my humble opinion.

The quality of a QB/teams Defense is a variable that plays a big part in everything the team does on Offense in my humble opinion. At the college level for instance and I'll use Alabama by way of example. It probably wouldn't matter how good the QB that starts for the tide looks in every possible category because when all is said and done he's a product of the system/s. Playing with a lead vs coming from behind changes how a QB and teams O operates and how the opposition defends them. Taylor played well with a lead, but not so well from behind when Buffalo was forced out of their comfort zone running the football.

Hapless brings out the best in me.

Nice post Hapless, guesswork anyone?

So now my 80 year old mom has better access to Bills training camp notes then I do because I don't do friggin!#$@%#! facebook? How's Josh looking Ma?

I don't mind the fire , but common sense might be telling me If I'm J A to watch how a more experienced QB like A J McCArron approaches the game of football at the NFL level and wait until the O as a unit is firing on all cylinders.

sounds like Michael82 If I remember correctly, nothing beats Astro...

true that, Josh Allen is a project in my humble opinion. A J McCarron on the other hand is not. Despite the question mark when it comes to a franchise QB I really like what the Buffalo Bills have done in an effort to upgrade the position.

Old school vs new school, good summary, I like it. The NFL is an ever evolving, ever changing league IMO. Cam Newton with his low 19 wonderlic score and running skills wasn't supposed to succeed in the NFL. Russell Wilson because of a height disadvantage faced the same kind of scrutinty. Our very own T Mobile was a long shot to ever becoming a starter in the NFL and just took Buffalo to the playoffs for the first time in 17 years. The mold at QB position is made to be broken...

What are the odds of a 6th round QB becoming the best signal caller the league has ever seen. Or a guy like Kurt Warner is bagging groceries one minute yet goes on to win a championship. I could care less about the odds... with all due respect Biscuit

So you admit most 1st round QB's fail. Perhaps that should be telling us the way college QB's are being evaluated is not very reliable.

It wouldn't surprise me if the list of college QB's that had a higher completion percentage and some of the best overall stats a man could ask for yet still failed to succeed in the NFL is bigger and much more impressive. Many QB's at the college level play in O systems that utilizes a high number of dump offs, bubble screens ect. making it more difficult to gauge the young signal callers potential at the pro level in my humble opinion. Josh Allen has all the tools it takes and then some IMO.

Nice 1st post billmon06

The last time the Saints came marching in we got our butts whipped is why I find them offensive.

Been there muppy, done that, still have a T E jersey packed away somewhere...

I remember thinking to myself when you mentioned the dinner cancellation... ...this McD fella means business... ...no strings attached...

As was I...

When you say ceiling is not good enough Alex Smith is ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in the win/loss column with 90 career wins and almost every QB above him has won championships. Smith also has the lowest amount of games played. (top 10/wins) I'm not a gambling man, but If I was my moneys on Smith for the win.

Every QB needs a good system and supporting cast all on the same page to succeed. Its something Buffalo doesn't have right now.

Some folks seem to forget that a new O is being installed along with an Oline needing time to gel and training camp/ preseason is not by any means a good testing ground in my humble opinion. Allen not starting (IMO) will have less to do with talent or capabilities and the decision will be more based on the Bills supporting cast needing time for everyone to get on the same page. Why would Buffalo want to take a chance of injuring the future of the franchise when we have McCarron that will suffice getting the O on track. Coaches like competition and I'm not expecting them to count anyone out. Under different circumstances I might agree with some of you ...

and continue on... ...drinking ... ...but hey... ...its hot hot hot outside...

Myself personally, its not just a question of who shows the most talent, its what is wise for a star athletes development. Tossing a young QB prospect into the fire with an O that has yet to establish itself in the NFL along with an Oline that needs time to gel could ruin Allens career IMO. Everything is vanilla through preseason. I also don't think McD and Co will be under any pressure from above to start the rookie, especially with R Brandon's departure. So with all due respect Transplant, starting Allen at the beginning of the season is probably not going to happen in my humble opinion.

Buffalo just had success recently with a later round draft pick and the Pats have won multiple championships with a late round draft choice. Meanwhile the last few 1st round draft choices for the Buffalo Bills have not gone well so spare me the lecture on how things are supposed to work.

A J McCarron has waited a long time for a legitimate chance to start in the NFL and he's got everything you need to succeed in my humble opinion. Peterman is also not going to go away easily. Its very doubtful Josh Allen even makes 2 before the regular season begins IMO.