That's No Moon

What if the Bills defensive line is also bad? Who, other than the currently broken Von Miller, scares the other team on our line? Daquan Jones is the only one stout against the run. Epenesa is constantly out of position. Rousseau is super inconsistent. Phillips is constantly hurt. Lawson is a JAG. Put it this way, Cincinnati didn't seem to have a ton of trouble with our line, with a subpar and broken O-Line (at the time) of their own.

I'd love to know exactly at which points Happy Claps took over the play calling for the last couple years. It's happened, they've copped to some of them, I just wonder if we've only heard about it when it went well. Don't take this as defense of Frazier's defense. I hated it and I hate the philosophy in general. I agree with others who have said that it works really well against average to poor QBs. As soon as you face a QB that's willing to take what you give him, and can deliver the ball to the correct place accurately, they pick it apart.

I'm looking forward to the day that he's old enough that we no longer talk about him. He's currently 29. It'll be at least another 6-7 years.

Doubtful.

That's Kyle Orton.

So they measure pregame or just during the game?

What's fun is that there are lots of people like me who drink 0 at Bills games so the rest of you are doing a lot to pull up the average. We will all miss the trough when it's gone. It may be a lot of negative things, but it's efficient.

Yeah, we already have one of those at DE.

UB should be winning this game right now. Turf monster cost them a pick 6

By hand for me as a 14 year old commissioner for my neighborhood league. Fantasy football was easier.

Watching him the other day I would have sworn he had two broken hands.

The Bills drafting has been suspect. Is the issue talent identification or player development? They seem to be able to identify and develop DBs and not much of anything else.

Has there ever been another QB to start one game, throw for 300 yards, and then never get another start?

That's a great porn name.

All of this, plus Mills is a better player.

Jonathan was on the field the entire 4th quarter. He's cut.

This sounds like a fun game. I don't like Kyle Allen either but let's plumb those depths. Bills QBs since 2003 not named Josh Allen. Not listed in any particular order. Rank em. If I missed anybody my apologies. Kyle Allen Jeff Tuel Nathan Peterman Brian Brohm Derek Anderson Joe Webb Thad Lewis Travis Brown Levi Brown Tyler Thigpen Cardale Jones JP Losman Kelly Holcomb Trent Edwards Ryan Fitzpatrick EJ Manuel Shane Matthews Drew Bledsoe Alex Van Pelt Davis Webb Case Keenum Matt Barkley edit: Tyrod Taylor

As a gunner, not a blocker, but you need to do the job you're assigned.

Shorter was dog water today.

Broadcast said he was injured today.

Dont even joke about that.

More RBs than we've had in a long time.

We've reached the point in the game where you start looking for people who don't belong. Who are the guys on the field who you wouldn't think should be at the end of the 4th pre-season game? Kaiir Elam still on at this point is interesting.

He grabbed the back of his leg, but it look like he hyperextended his knee to me.

He will be the next Mike Love. Around the team for years, occasionally on it.