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Thanks. Didn’t know all the details from his camp. Would probably want the contract to have incentives about snaps played. This could be a way to reduce the cap hit now though the check for that comes later. I’m just happy to pay if he’s healthy as you say later.

For hunter I agree. This is a player you go after as he’s proven and on a good contract. Need to continue to be calculating. The invoices will come due at some point but if you have done well you won a lot without hindering yourself too much. We agree that this is the player to do it for (again very similar to diggs).

He’s already under contract for the next few seasons which is part of the value (like diggs funny enough) to me. NO is gonna go through some dark times for next few seasons cause of that manipulation. They should get several good shots at drafting a replacement for Brees.

It’s a chandler jones thread. I’m tired of hearing edmunds talk in every thread. This isn’t even a released LB thread. Usually this starts with a post saying edmunds should be gone (see page 1 of this thread).

McD has given more snaps to players that are good. Check his line numbers from Carolina. There were guys there over 70% of the snaps. He needs to be able to trust there won’t be a drop off. I think Ed gets this treatment next year.

I think he mentioned that cut after the draft to have some more money going into the season.

Edmunds did fine the first game against the chiefs (with out Milano). No tre is the difference between the first and second games. I think we play much better defense with tre on the field.

With regards to his contract I think Klein was insurance against at least Milano signing a new contract. He was brought in for Mika is contract year and beane usually doesn’t guarantee money beyond the first year. Now that Milano is re-signed this was an inevitability as many have said.

Really long post but here are cover 1s thoughts from a bit ago. Didn’t see it posted here. Haven’t seen a ton of discussion on the topic either. OMG I didn’t watch it all. Gonna finish it now.

below is him saying his conditioning in the SEC title game was a problem. That seems to be a motivation problem. He’s in shape now. Great. That’s sorta like playing well in a contract year. Why was conditioning a problem at the end of the season? Up tempo is clearly something that he will see in the NFL. https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/01/georgias-340-pound-dl-jordan-davis-admits-conditioning-was-off-against-alabama.html?outputType=amp

I think we’re in similar spots. I stated why I think he doesn’t seem disciplined. I’ll agree his ceiling is as high as anyones but I have said why I don’t think he’s disciplined. Thus as you say hes not what you want out of a first round pick. what if he’s very lazy and has been getting by based off his athleticism? to provide more evidence to my previous post. Others have mentioned joe Marino is down on him because of his discipline. This past season he said he wanted to win a championship (good for him getting it) and control his weight (he didn’t do that). He also said after the first bama game (sorry no link but again Marino show) that we wasn’t conditioned enough. So yeah the stats are not the end all be all but I didn’t say that. he had one of the worst pressure rates of all FBS DT, and I was trying to say his apparent lack of discipline PLUS the stats are why I’m a pass. If we draft I’ll root for him. If he turns into an all pro then I’ll eat crow.

Heard he has had trouble with his weight and that he has a sweet tooth. Doesn’t sound very disciplined. Along with his near atrocious pass rushing he is a pass at 25 for me.

Gabe Davis against jets? That was a bit short and after a deflection Davis caught it (there was also DPI)

Clearly they said “get that picture of josh Allen leaping over someone”. The intern didn’t realize Josh is a QB that hurdles defenders regularly.

Agree with your later post that said all pro is a super high bar. I think he has a ton of upside considering this is only his SECOND full year at the position. I thought he would be a liability in the run game but he was good. He needs to do more as a pass rusher. I think beane also mentioned he hit a rookie wall which makes sense considering he didn’t play the pandemic year and training was probably less rigorous. So in conclusion he came on better than I expected and I think he has a ton of upside (this was label for josh after one year). ps I didn’t like the other posts in responses to your question. Hope this is more rationale.

So I think this is what did last years team miss to get us to the promised land of Lombardi. It’s easy then. Tre white. We win everything if we have him and have an argument that we could have won with out him. Anyone talking paper tigers or other needs for last year team is not grounded in what can realistically be done. Going forward is a big question. I think they have LB locked up (barring a surprising edmunds trade). Safeties is obviously a silly value for both their contracts. We need some help at CB while Tre is out but are pretty good when he’s back (Tre, Johnson, Dane, Neal, Lewis is a good set). that leaves us with replacing what we might lose this off-season on DL. Need someone to replace Jerry’s pressures. asking for more pressures from a UFA will cost a bit but I think we can get more out of Groot. And at DT we got a couple holes to fill. 13 seconds was awful but we were and are still really close.

Sure but we also lack serious depth at DT. We at least have our starting 5 and all contributors returning (assuming they tendor Bates) except Boettger who probably doesn’t have a big market. Morse isn’t 30 and played a full season so talk of retirement is def just speculation. We can rework Williams deal and I thought the line played well with Bates so am ok if he’s the floor. at DT we got like nothing. FA could change this but at moment we have Ed, star, Ankou. Even if that position group performed well last year (about even with OL imo) we would need to restock. With the state of OL and the Kroger hiring I think a day 3 pick to develop would be fine for iOL.

I get why people are going OL but it seems like one of our more complete position groups. Considering how many DL we use, how few we have under contract, and our history I won’t be surprised if we go that way again. Not that I’m super excited about how well we’ve done with that position group.

Sure but he has lumped it in with Jax and Indy which were really bad offensive games. We were inefficient in the RZ but those other two we struggled to move the ball. Sorry I was responding to another guy that had tenn as bad offense like jax and Indy. I don’t think you agree with that.

What was wrong with the offense in the Tennessee game?

In hindsight it makes a lot of sense that groot hit a rookie wall because he didn’t play last year. Getting an off-season should help him be more consistent next year.

I see. I thought you meant the rams acquiring an elite QB instead of Stafford. Stafford was the best they were gonna do without the draft. The rams have made it work but it still goes back to good drafting (Kupp and Donald particularly). As for jones he’s fun to watch and think a day 2 investment makes sense

Yeah but they would have to draft Josh cause no one’s departing with an elite QB like they would CB or DE. And they can’t draft him cause that’s the strategy. So I dont need to consider the Allen (insert other elite QB) on rams idea cause it’s not really possible.

Joe Marino was pretty high on jones. His athletic comp though (and he said not to be scared by it) was Vernon butler. Says he’s a better player than butler but similar traits.

Cool. Sorry not a bettor. Figured if you bet on the winner and it was a tie then it was a push.