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He needed to dive sooner. What went wrong was he took a few huge strides toward it trying to pick it up. He needed to dive the MOMENT he saw it on the ground and when he wasn't too close to it for the dive to be awkward and get him hurt. So the answer is somewhere in between.

I'm encouraged by his statistical consistency. He didn't have the Jake Plummer-like erraticism where he'd throw for 400 yards and 4Tds against a contender only to throw up several stink bombs to a bottom dweller a week later. Taylor had some solid outputs against some very valid Defenses (Houston, KC, NYJ, to name a few) and I'm much more confortable with steady in a first year QB than flash in the pan brilliance. As Roman starts to unleash him more he should get more comfortable exhausting all of his progressions (rather than just one or two) before breaking the pocket. I'd like to see him improve his footwork in the pocket (some of that is timing, trust, and chemistry with his current O-line), his progressions, and his passes in the seem. He's accurate on short slants, outs, curls, and is excellent at leading the receiver out of the backfield. He'll be a great YAC QB if he continues to develop. His deep ball is also second to almost none already with very little effort. He needs to hit posts, pops, ins and deep crosses with more consistency. Alex Smith, Tom Brady, and even Ryan Fitzpatrick were QBs that stuck out to me against the Bills where they would rifle a post pattern ball between two guys and I would just say, man I hope Tyrod can learn that one. It maybe a reason why he threw so few picks as well. Next year if he can crack 3700 and 27-30 TDs I will be encouraged to think he's the real deal. All that plus his running ability.

Very good sir, it is indeed SuperBowl winning first year QB Tom Brady. TT beats him in every single significant stat except for 1 with 1 fewer game and 33 fewer attempts. I'd hold back on the Taylor bashing until we actually see him run the first team offense for all of training camp. Maybe we get him a big possession receiver as well. We'll know all we need to know by the end of next year for sure.

True, but it's not only that the numbers are similar. It's that Tom Brady with 1 more game, more attempts, and a SuperBowl winning team around him and better pass protecting O-line is actually OUTDONE by Tyrod Taylor in every conceivable stat save completion % ( by .2%) and longest pass play (91-63). I repeat, Taylor beats him in EVERY SINGLE OTHER MAJOR STAT with 33 fewer attempts! That doesn't seem like a fluke to me. He was better statistically on an offense that was supposed to struggle mightily, while being on a team that only survives by the skin of their defense (One that severely underperformed as you know.) There's something to that. This doesn't mean it will continue this way, nor does it mean he didn't have his struggles with 3 and outs and the like, but I find it highly inconceivable that all of a sudden Bills fans have become so spoiled after going through countless disasters at the position since General Kelly was at the helm, that they are already writing him off. What Taylor did last year didn't light the world on fire, but it's also by no means the norm for first year starters even these days, particularly in Buffalo. We must see how this plays out, PERIOD. This kid has something. The title of this thread sucks!

I'd like you to be aware of two quarterbacks who both sat out before their first season and compare the numbers. Quarterback A: 14 gp 242 com 63.7 Cp% 27.1 att/g 3,035 yds 8.0 avg 216.8 yd/gm 20 TD 5.3 TD% 6 INT 1.6 INT% 63 Lng 45 20+ 11 40+ 36 sck 212 sck yds 99.4 rate Quarterback B: 15 gp 413 att 264 com 63.9 Cp% 27.5 att/g 2843 yds 6.9 avg 189.5 yd/gm 18 TD 4.4 TD% 12 INT 2.9 INT% 91T Lng 32 20+ 6 40+ 41 sck 216 sck yds 86.5 rate Now you can probably guess who quarterback A is. Can any of you guess B though? Both were in their first seasons as full-time starters. Study those numbers and then reread the comments on this thread. I'll wait. Sorry, I tried to do it horizontally and it automatically did it vertically. I hope that's not annoying to read. Copy and paste onto word for easy comparison.

It wasn't something anybody watching the game would know. You'd have to see the Andre Reed interview afterward. And it's not like it was played over and over and over. Quite a reach to say the least, although stranger things have happened.

Everyone relax! We were playing with house money in this one. It's a lot to ask to beat n undefeated team on the road, let alone the Pats. Go willing TT is ok, we should be happy that we were maybe two plays from winning this. We certainly weren't overmatched by any stretch. Let's make the adjustment and run through KC next week. GO BILLS!

We had control of this game until the McCoy drop/Carp miss and subsequent TD We regained control holding them down to start the 2nd half. The key play there is we have 3rd and 3 in their territory, why the hell does Roman calls a read option there? You MUST put the ball in your QBS hands to convert that in the air. I was so pissed at that one. We convert there and I feel we keep the momentum. Roman really needs to evaluate how he balances run and pass. Get more aggressive in the pass game! After a while Pats were just sitting on our Wams.

ridiculous thread. He made some great plays but he underthrew some balls. They need to get him more opportunities on first and second down. You can't just always expect him to convert on third down. He had some manageable 3rd downs that he needed to execute , but hang in there, we could have beaten the best team in football on the road. Quit getting spoiled

I hated to see him go. He was a productive pass catcher who could stretch the field and provide a big target in the red zone. We were on the hook for a lot of cheddar though and we were looking for more blocking up front. Clay provides both and is a much more athletic target. Whaley needed to trip so salary and he was unfortunately a casualty of that. I miss him but I'm not unhappy that he hasn't taken off with the Pats.

Point taken, but there will always be an asterick next to as much as I'd enjoy that W on the left column. Plus, bad things tend to happen to teams with this kind a rep. Karma's a B word. The difference was last year's finale was a meaningless game, this week's game has playoff implications.

This is all bull. Let's say we injure him, clean or not and we win. Does anybody on here really want to hear the chorus of Gugnys that are going to illegitimize the win for the rest of the season. We will never be satisfied by that win. I don't hear anybody talking up last years win at Gillette when he was benched for a half. Let's win this thing legit.

Fair enough, but here's hoping the worst is behind us and not ahead of us. We've paid our dues!

It's more like a vicious cycle

Time to change history. I'm sick of all this inductive reasoning and I truly believe it's part of why the same things happen to this franchise over and over and over again. I feel it's no coincidence that we've seen some variation of the same story every year with completely different players coming in and out of the organization. We expect eventual and tantalizing failure and therefore this same expectation even leaks into the psyche of the players. Don't even think all those gentlemen don't know this narrative. I mean I was literally uttering the words "I've seen this game before" when Schmidt fumbled the punt snap for !@#$'s sake. Not that my words had any direct effect on the play but case and point, we need to change our attitude as fans and EXPECT to turn this around. !@#$ that past! I'm tired of this pain of 15 years, and the Music City Miracle, and 4 Superbowls turning us into pansies and causing us to progress from cautiously optimistic, to fearful, to looking for ways we can still lose a lead, to losing in the worst way imaginable. That doesn't fly with me anymore. Watch this damn video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chzz3M0spWM

Eliminate Penalties!!!

I feel the Bills tackle better and are more disciplined on the road. They seem to not let emotion get the best of them. They are also penalized far less. They simply need to stay in control and stay home on mis-directions, something that killed us yesterday. Also we must shoot the a gap with Dareus and flush Fitz, his ball doesn't have the zip for cross field throws that we could then anticipate for picks. And get your damn hands in the air D-line! This used to be something we did a lot of.

Really they hadn't all been together since the first Miami game which was the last game the O clicked (even slowed a bit after Sammy's first half injury). Just sayin' it's tough to stop all of them.

Why'd we cut Thigpen?

I know, I about pissed myself when I heard that. Lol, didn't seem premeditated either.

Statistics aside, you just get the feel that he's a winner right? He's got a fox-like energy and a tremendous feel for the game that can't be coached. The great part is he's not damaged goods, or raw like E.J. He is essentially at the beginning of his active learning curve and has a Leo's natural leadership ability without forcing it. He's also able to take chances but makes few mistakes (I think 3/4ths of his picks are on tips). An awful lot to like about him at this point Keep it up T-Mobile!

Not to sound like the annoying eternal optimist here but changing coaching staffs is difficult. Marrone started 3-7 and ended 7-9. He went 9-7 last year and now we're changing everything. I expect more continuity in year 2 and hopefully not the injury bugged that plaguedus in training camp, which has been a very understated problem.

He's a backup QB. Forget that he was a first rounder. He **** the bed for 2 minutes in the second then rebounded to have arguably the best half of his career. The overall numbers, 298 2/2 are not nearly so bad as everyone is implying. No deep threat receivers and no right side of the line btw. I about threw up in the 2nd, but he still only has a rookies worth of NFL experience. The man has tremendous talent and some of the throws he did make were very impressive. Hopefully we won't need him again this year but these two games were highly valuable experiences that he can build on in the future.

In parenthesis for all of them should be (played with QB infinitely better than Orton)

To tell the truth I have watched nearly every interview he's done since being here and I have not seen him go off to nearly the extent the media portrays INCLUDING the Pats game lead up. It was all media hype/hogwash. A few quotables leading to Pats game, "We respect the heck out of them but don't fear 'em". "We're not gonna fold when they get off the bus". "We're gonna be challenged by 'em". Couple guys saying we dislike them.....BIG SURPRISE......and boom there you have enough out of context quotes to make overhype stew. Again, I've watched nearly all the interviews and unless I'm Helen Keller I see a confident but also respectful coach who indeed has a larger than life charisma, but embrace it for God's sake! We weren't ever going to win with deer-in-headlights Jauron. And not necessarily because he was totally incapable (though I'm sure everyone here thinks he was) but more that with such a losing culture sinking so deeply into the Bills org. from the inside out, his deadpan approach didn't stand a chance against this non-playoff funk. Let the systems settle in a little bit. Still many parts trying to not only learn it but internalize it while our 2 losses featured teams that had experience (and won !@#$ing superbowls) with their's. Calm the !@#$ down peeps, we've got a special coach here, and don't believe the media's slants. You'd think after so many years of Tele-brainwashing and false news narratives we'd have figured this out by now!