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I wonder to what extent it being Cleveland will have an effect too. I can't remember the last time they had a good QB and one that offered stability.

Good response from Diggs Seems like all things considered Baker is handling it well

According to pro football reference, Chris Kelsay is the 40th most valuable Buffalo Bill player we've had.

Makes me wonder who wins the AFC west. Raiders?

It would help if the Giants didn't suck.

Yeah, I feel like he could be a Geno Smith in the league as a backup or a Ryan Tannehill that does better with a more competent team.

Chris Jones looks like he might win the game for KC

They've been great. Obviously we still have weaknesses but considering we can't be perfect we're in a really good spot with them.

It comes down to interpretation though, right? Did the Bills struggle this past weekend?

How do you ignore someone again?

He would certainly help us appreciate Edmunds, Oliver and others more...

I was going to say, they should try the "say something nice about him" again after this game.

Which leads to an interesting question. Based on his versatility, is the contract for him still a good one? If not, I wonder what would be the right price for him.

You know, a while back there was a video of Diggs playfully smacking McKenzie after a route in practice. Based on everyone's responses Digg's behavior makes a lot more sense. Also, I love how pleased Josh is with himself.

They asked for nicknames, not accurate descriptions.

Yeah, I think the Lorax's of the NFL could be misjudged. That being said, I think I read that some players told Marrone that EJ wasn't good enough after their first year. (Which probably led to Marrone telling Whaley to fire him at training camp since I imagine the argument was about needing a better QB)

This is the right list. I actually don't consider Baker to be that smug anymore. I think playing on the Browns will do that to you.

I'm not sure how to feel about the fact that our best rusher gets pressure 1 out of 6 times. Maybe that's good, I really have no clue.

The counter point, not that I'm advocating it, is any veteran that will draw interest plays a role in the comp pick formula. It's a reason why teams will trade 3rd or 4th rounders knowing they will get them back.

How fair is the analogy of Donte Whitner to Oliver? Both good players (Yes Donte was a probowl safety) who didn't/haven't so far lived up to their draft pick and excel in some areas.

That basically is the crux of this that and a "did we win our last game?" mentality. Some people view this as baseball or hockey (get a good enough % and be happy) and some people view this as a basketball free-throw, if you didn't make the shot something is wrong and some people view this as Ricky Bobby "If you ain't first you're last." The latter group tends to be very vocal and quick to call players busts.

We had no sacks that game...that hurts

What a great TD celebration 😄

LOL Of course Vrabel screws it up

Eh, you're not wrong OP, but anyone who would consider your view is probably being kinder in the first place. It's probably cyclical. Those who need to consider your words most are the ones least likely to, the ones who will get most upset if other fanbases start hating us (due to obnoxious fans) and most likely to raise their blood pressure when Nick Wright, PFF or some other source doesn't adorn a Bill's player with the praise they think they deserve.