BuffaloHokie13

Bills games & VT games when I can't get to them. Game of Thrones & Gotham Other than that I stick to video games if I'm staying in. Why watch something scripted when I can entertain myself with a story where I effect the outcome?

He's been beaten by Brady so much that he already knew the result of the play

Of course, you didn't answer his questions either.

You misinterpreted my statement. I never guaranteed anything, and never will when it comes to the draft because it's completely unpredictable. I have had the same stance on how the Bills should approach the QB situation since March. I haven't wavered from this stance, and I haven't backtracked (except in your mind since you clearly know more about what I meant than I did.). Let me walk you through it. That's what needs to happen regardless. And then the pick needs to live up to the hype and take Tyrod's spot. All I'm saying in this post is that regardless of how Tyrod does, he could break 5k yards and 40 TDs and my stance wouldn't change, the Bills need to target a prospect in the upcoming draft worthy of being taken in the 1st round. I'm not saying take a QB regardless of circumstances. That's idiotic. Especially when it comes to something as volatile as the draft process. The 2nd thing I'm saying here is that no matter what we've spent on this QB, Tyrod will not be jettisoned from the roster unless his starter role is taken from him. The rookie, whomever it may be, will not just be given the keys and a clear path. He'll need to earn it. Here's where you decided that what I actually meant was take whatever QB is there in the 1st because lol who scouts these days? Here's where I clarified my stance for you, because you still are the only person in this conversation (of 2) that has said draft a QB no matter what. This has been an ongoing discussion with several of the draft savvy folks on this board dating back to our strategy for this past draft. Gunner, the one I was responding to, thought we should draft a QB this past draft. I could be wrong, but I'd imagine that if GB was running the Bills we would have taken Watson at 10. I, on the other hand, have said that we would bring in a veteran presence behind Tyrod this year, and then we would go in on a QB high next year. I was a bigger fan of next year's QB crop than this year's. I also thought that it provided for an easy transition if the prospect turned out to be a good pick because he'd have a year to learn, if necessary, before he really needed to take over as the starter. This is what I meant, not whatever theory you ascribed to me in your head. So, as a final statement on this from my end, just drop this. It's a stance I've established over months and you will look foolish the more you try to twist it to something it isn't. It can be proven in my post history, but quite frankly I don't feel like going through it.

You're exaggerating what I'm saying, maybe you should stop hitting your head. The team is going to identify and target at least 1 highly rated QB in the upcoming draft. Depending how things shake out they may take him with either of their 1st rounders or trade up to secure him. If the prospects they have identified are gone, obviously they aren't taking one they don't like just to take one.

How do you define this, exactly? If you look at how many times per game Tyrod's number was called vs the rest of the league he ranked 21 last year. The QBs with at least 200 attempts that had their number called less were: Matt Ryan Brock Osweiler Alex Smith Case Keenum Colin Kaepernick Marcus Mariota Brian Hoyer Ryan Tannehill Jared Goff Dak Prescott Matt Barkley Ryan Fitzpatrick

So you believe that after 4 years of backup duty, 35 total attempted passes, under 3 different OC's in that same period, a QB has nothing left to learn and the league also knows everything they need to know about him?

In a stacked QB class? Absolutely. At a minimum I would fully expect a 1st round rookie to be an upgrade to Yates/Peterman. Ideally, he's so good that he takes Tyrod's spot (easier said than done). This upcoming draft is also ideal because we still have Tyrod on contract through '18. What I don't want to see is us pass on these QBs, Tyrod plays his contract out, and then we are forced to draft a QB who's thrust into action immediately because we have nobody else.

That's what needs to happen regardless. And then the pick needs to live up to the hype and take Tyrod's spot.

Hopefully he means the Miami game and not the final Jets game

Agreed. We were absolutely the most effective team in the league at running the football.

It's hot out there. They'd better add some sugar. And maybe some vodka.

Mariota and Wilson had very similar success to Tyrod in their first few years starting. Granted, they were rookies. But their success is incredibly comparable. Mariota - 27 Games, 30.4 Attempts per game, 1.815 TD per game, 1.63 TD/TO, 238.2 YPG Tyrod - 29 Games, 28.1 Attempts per game, 1.621 TD per game, 3.36 TD/TO, 234.6 YPG Wilson - 32 Games, 25.0 Attempts per game, 1.781 TD per game, 2.85 TD/TO, 219.6 YPG Prescott - 16 Games, 28.7 Attempts per game, 1.813 TD per game, 3.63 TD/TO, 237.9 YPG EDIT: Added Dak, Used 2 years of Wilson instead of 3

To be fair, Bortles has been asked to do too much in previous years imo, and I believe it has had an impact on his success.

I'd love to know how you came to this conclusion. In 2012 he averaged 194.9 YPG on 24.6 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #2 DVOA Defense, and the #1 DVOA Rush Offense In 2013 he averaged 209.8 YPG on 25.4 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #1 DVOA Defense, and the #7 DVOA Rush Offense In 2014 he averaged 217.2 YPG on 28.3 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #1 DVOA Defense, and the #1 DVOA Rush Offense In our case: In 2015 TT averaged 216.8 YPG on 27.1 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #24 DVOA Defense, and the #2 DVOA Rush Offense In 2016 TT averaged 201.5 YPG on 29.1 Attempts per game. His play was accompanied by the #26 DVOA Defense, and the #1 DVOA Rush Offense

This is great. Thanks!

Unless it's against the Bengals.

Ah, goes to closest. Missed that, thanks. I kind of prefer it go to a charity, or SDS, or something, but I get it.

If 20 people enter at $25 a piece and all of them pick 11 wins and they are correct then they'd all get their money back. The real question is what happens to the money if nobody is correct?

That's only possible if you're charging transaction fees.

It plays back into why he cried tears of joy when he heard the news and sent out the classy goodbye tweet that he did. This staff didn't select him and wasn't interested in him. They sent him to a team that was interested in him and his development before camps got started. Really, it worked out well for all involved parties imo.

Jets - #32 Panthers - #12 Broncos - #23 Falcons - #4 Bengals - #6 Bucs - #10 Raiders - #8 Jets - #32 Saints - #14 Chargers - #7 Chiefs - #27 Pats - #1 Colts - #25 Dolphins - #3 Pats - #1 Dolphins - #3 Nope

If it doesn't save I'll probably have to recover it

They haven't been the same since Tyrod left... No but really, Flacco's post SB-run contract hurt their ability to retain key pieces as well.

Hopefully he and Sammy are both healthy when we play them. Should be a fun matchup to watch.