Billsfan1972

And again Wilson was drafted in the third round, not the first. His first year the Seahawks went 11-5, not 6-10..... The team went 11-5, 13-3 & 12-4..... There defense was much better. Take a look at their points differential too where they didn't need 300 yards passing. The Bills are 6-2 granted but a point differential of 27 and every game they needed to put up points & move the ball in the fourth. Can compare some things about them, but the teams surrounding them were different.

It's beyond easy, it's been a joke to date & that is why I keep wanting to see or get an idea of what the Bills have in Josh Allen and I have no idea thanks to Daboll & McD. To be excited that they have either had to come back or were in games that were one score games in the fourth quarter are red flags. So they've beaten teams with 0, 1, 1, 1 & 2 wins is making great strides because they did not lose???? Another poster drinking the McD Koolaid and spouting off about The Process...... And yes 300 yards passing and a vertical game with Allen is important to see if they have something. Funny too that Allen's passing yards have gone down since week 3 and never has had more then 255 in a game. Remember this is the coaching staff that had Nathan Peterman start vs. LAC and named the starter in 2018.

We can only hope.......? Also they have the best receivers the Bills have faced all year. Sure they can screw it up though.

And again what does that mean for the Bills? Chubb is a great back, which is not a good match-up. Cleveland has had a very hard schedule.

This schedule has been beyond a joke in how easy it has been. They have played 3 teams with more then 2 wins & are 1-2. To put into context Wash beat Miami, NYG (the juggernaut with 2 W's) beat Wash, Miami beat NYJ.... Only NYJ win was against an actual winning team Dallas.

Yes they had the longest streak going into 2017 missing the playoffs, but generally they were just bad (not a laughingstock) as they were generally between 6-9 & 9-7.......

I then don't see growth beating the teams they have beaten, since all 6 wins were within one score into the fourth quarter.

It was a fair analysis, same as your weekly detailed breakdowns, which one can take it or leave it. The point is that the Bills have had as easy a schedule as possible. Only three Road games vs. NYJ, NYG & Tenn to boot. The 4 win Tennessee game is their signature victory. Other wins vs. teams with 0, 1, 1, 1 & 2. Washington's only win vs. Miami & Miami's vs. NYJ......

What is it then? The Bills D did play very well vs. NE, quite well vs. Tennessee (who also happened to miss 4 fgs!!!). Otherwise the D has been AVERAGE and has played only one team with an above average Offense (Philly). Rose coloured glasses?

Quit talking logically.... Wonderful that the Bills are 6-2. This however has been a ridiculously easy schedule and again every win was either a comeback or within one score into the 4th quarter. The OC and HC just refuse to see what the offense can do (or are just plain bad). As stated over & over I want to see 4 quarters of football from this offense. To use the car analogy, is the Bills offense a ford Focus, a well tuned BMW or a Ferrari? Is the QB a 16 year old who's never driven a manual or an F1 driver? No idea thanks to this coaching staff.....

A+++++. McD D, Daboll D.... Just watched the Seattle TB game..... That is fun football..... This 1960's football is doing Allen no good & still hard to say whether this is the QB of the future. Do people really want the 2018 Bears or 2016-2018 Jacksonville not knowing for way too long whether Trubinsky or Bortles are QB's to win games for them?

I watch football, because it can be entertaining. I watch the Bills because they are my team. The Bills won..... Great Unfortunately the Bills are not entertaining.

Again it is about seeing growth. Wachington hasn't scored an offensive TD since the third quarter vs. Miami 4 weeks ago. They allowed 434 yards vs. Minnesota. The 9-0 game vs. SF was in Horrific Weather conditions. Very happy with 6-2, just want to see growth & a game more reminiscent of what NE wouyld do against inferior competition (i.e. throw for over 300 and bury them). Because unfortunately I have been a Bills fan since day one. I'd really like to be entertained and see what Alllen can do. 14-20 160 is another McD but that as said is not going to cut it vs. any decent team.

And again a one score game into the fourth. I really wanted to see convincing win & good play calling and again a game only a fan of the Bills could like. One of the worst teams in the NFL on both sides of the ball starting a real green Rookie qb and a game plan as if they were KC (with Mahomes), NE or NO. Yes I'm happy @ 6.2, but this is where the Bills needed to see what Allen could do & <300 offense is actually sad.

Good article too in the Ringer https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/10/30/20939534/midseason-nfl-2019-decade-defining-quarterbacks Good Info here too.... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/advanced.htm I find those saying we aren't running the ball enough perplexing when the Bills are near the bottom (bottom half) in passing and almost every game has been close.

Actually I didn't think much of the OP's statement. Frankly show me a top-tier NFL QB in today's NFL who did not reach that milestone pretty quick. Heck Russell Wilson may have taken the longest. Oh and what a loser Mahomes was in this game..... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201811190ram.htm If you can't innately understand the logic & metrics when both pass for 300 yards then there is no helping you, than there is no helping you. Like the poster who claimed that the record this year was 37-35 (ignoring that there was a tie with both throwing for 300 yards). If all 300 yard games ended in ties, then the w-l record for 300 yard passers would be 0-72!!!!!!!!??

Yes we get it when both teams throw for 300 yards one wins and one loses (unless a tie). Only you are so smart to figure it out. You can't use the losses in games where both QBs were successful and threw for over 300.

Again it's the eye test and not complicated. 300 yards passing is good, 150 is almost never. When a team has to defend a qb and offense capable of 30+ points and moving the ball through the air that puts a lot of pressure on the defense. Heck I bet Washington is thinking if they put up 20 points they could win. When I posted about this not being an elite defense others pointed out that even elite ones put up clunkers...... The Bills offense is so bad at this point that they can't even have an accidental 300 yard game. Pathetic. And what of they do catch up and then still lose? Bills have been blown out an inordinate amount of games under McDermott and still can't make it to 300.

Great post, bit it's all about defense according to some and the coaching staff.

And what a statistician would do is remove only the losses

Geez how many times have I parsed the 2019 300 yard games to show how that throwing for 300 often means close losses when the other qb too threw for 300 (or not), in addition to needing 300 to win a tight game or resulted in a close loss?

Missed where you compiled games where both QBs threw for 300 and games decided by less then a TD? Wins and losses and addition is pretty simple to do. As stated if Allen is not the answer I want to know sooner rather then later. The issue to me is coaching and that is the problem. Remember Brady threw for 505 in the Superbowl and lost so 300 is meaningless........ Oh and last year's defensive struggle was infinitely more fun to watch.

Pretty pathetic actually.....

I broke down the 2019 #'s for 300 yard passers and games where the result was less then 7 points. I then showed where both QBs threw for 300. How about taking those he's and breaking them down further if I am so wrong. And math and stats is what I do all day every day too. An actuary too if that matters. Bills fan is why I'm here however.

I don't think any one who continues to debate here is doing so to protecting Allen. They are protecting The Process & McD who has coached 40 games for the Bills & not had a QB throw for 300 yards. Last I checked 8 weeks into the season only Pittsburgh (Big Ben injured) and the dumpster fire Miami (who did throw for 272 vs. Buffalo) are the only teams this year outside Buffalo who haven't.