Billsfan1972

Agreed, but drops are ruled otherwise. I.e. Only the Knox & Singletary passes were deemed drops, not the Beasley long ball or any others.

It was a nice catch, but an even more impressive pass..... BTW 37 yards doesn't represent a "deep ball"?

Saved Zay Jones stats!!!!!!! He seldom made any effort if not in his hands.?

No.... It's always Allen throwing too hard or not accurately.......?

That was not the point of the thread. I didn't mention Allen in any of the posts until you showed up....

Again missing the point. Never fails.

No what I said is I've deemed a LOT MORE BALLS AS DROPS, then the official stats. To be a drop it pretty much needs to be a feather pass where the receiver is wide open, doesn't have to extend, leave their feet or anticipate a hit. Vs. Baltimore the only two deemed drops were SIngletary & Knox were were VERY EASY CATCHES.... No Bills fans want to compare themselves to the worst & this is why we have the 300 yard arguments & such about the offense. Forget being top 5 (or 10), three years @ the very bottom of passing stats (2016-2018) didn't phase some here......

I'll disagree. Weekly I'll state a ball is catchable & then check the next day & there was no drop. They err on the side of caution & if you have to adjst, leave your feet, are covered tight or need to make an effort to catch the ball it is not a drop. Pretty much a drop is only one that hits you in the # or as you are running, with no defender within a yard (or three of you). Dawson Knox & Singletary had easy drops last week last week was a drop. I don't know, but pretty sure that the Beasley pass was not ruled a drop (though was a perfect pass).

You always downplay or want to blame Allen & your comments are rubbish. Drops are only on very catchable balls & many that should be caught, but are not will not be called a drop. You're making things up. Of course you would never credit Allen with a perfect pass, because that is not you agenda. I posted the FACTS & you have come up with an analysis based on some made up observation that is not supported by facts. Let me guess the pick 6 week one that hit Beasley in the chest was thrown too hard & hit Beasley closer to the 0 then the 1, so it was on Allen??? ? The pass last week to Knox, caught with one hand is an example of as easy a one handed catch as a qb could make, as it fell into Knox's hand & chest in stride ..... Allen has no blame on catchable balls, as that is the DEFINITION..... Keep trying.....?

Exactly right & I corrected..... Uncatchable is no chance, but to be called a drop it has to be VERY Catchable. For instance Allen threw a pass that hit a sliding Mackenzie in the endzone for a TD last week that was dropped, but was not ruled a drop.

Semantics..... You are however wrong..... The actual correct # is Dawson Knox has had 35 catchable balls (26 catches + 9 drops).... So yes drop rate is 9/(26+9) = 25.7% And since all the other teams have more completions, the Bills receivers actually will be worse. Bills are 28/280 = 10% Cincy 23/313 = 7.3 Thus Buffalo drops 36% more passes then Cincy, 76% more then TB, 41.5% more then NO and a 101% more then GB!!!!

Doesn't matter.... To me a completed pass is a catch that could & is made. A drop, is a pass that is deemed easily caught, that was dropped. BTW on top of it all, Buffalo doesn't throw an awful lot.... Josh is 27th in attempts/game

With that screen name we know your allegiance, geez can you be a little more obvious? I just chose two random teams that throw the ball (oh yea a lot play in domes & warm weather too). Can go through any teams with established QB's. We aren't talking about Allen's bad passes (which can happen due to bad weather & conditions), we're talking drops, which usually are on pretty easy passes. Tell me what teams you want (using starting QBs that have played the majority of the season)? Philly 25 of 307 (yes just used drops/catches) 8.1% (and injuries galore to receivers) Cincy - 23 of 290 7.9% Chic - 7.9% GB - 15 of 287 5.2%.... Shall I continue?

Found this & alarming..... https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=10&qualified=1&sortOrder=0&page=1 https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/buffalo-bills-team-stats?season=2019&week=0&category=RECEIVING Knox 26 catches, 9 drops, Singletary 4 of 26, Beasley & Brown too with 4. Knew it was bad, but downright pathetic. 28 drops and 252 completions so drop rate of 11.1% Saints have 26, however 342 completions so 7.6% Bucs 19 of 316 so 6.0%

Here you go..... https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=10&qualified=1&sortOrder=0 Second in the league...... 26 receptions & 9 drops!!!!!! Wow that is bad. Add to that Beasley, Brown & Singletary with 4 apiece!!!!! Duke catches balls & is a BIG Target. At least he would make a better target then Foster or Mackenzie.

Since Stallion's thread where Daboll tries to blame Allen that was locked I tried to find a thread where I could post. Daboll when Allen is playing well (usually 3-4 drives a game since the Bills offense usually maxes out at 24 points) looks like he is doing the job. Now when the offense stalls he is throwing Allen under the bus. Against the Ravens there was pressure all game & Allen was hit consistently & Daboll did nothing to alleviate the pressure. Again few quick hits, play action, slants, crossing patterns and simple 6 yard throws. The team still is incapable of throwing for 300, which is commonplace in the NFL unless a Bills fan. 24 points is considered a high scoring explosion of offense. Yet some here laud Daboll & his innovative schemes?

Exactly the points I'm making. Progress could be quicker if McD didn't think every game should be 17-13 and Daboll is clueless when it comes to rhythm and the first two drives with strong winds & gusts showed that.

Actually the issue as usual is when we have a bad performance, the knives are out. I on the other hand will blame Daboll and bad play calling & what I think has been slow development based on passing stats that have the Bills in the bottom half of the league in terms of passing in general. Take the first few drives vs. Baltimore in a stiff wind (at your back). This is when you work the controlled passing game & move the chains & of course they come out telegraph a run (1 yard), another obvious run for 5 & then a missed deep ball (where the wind will affect the throw). Get a few first downs!!! He has been very good over the middle & mid range passes and can can throw it on a line. Everyone seems obsessed with the long ball, but few talk about Beasley dropping a beauty & that pass to Knox that was like velcro caught in stride right in his hand. Get into a flow, which Daboll did not do, receivers often not open and ridiculous pressure all game. And can this team execute a decent screen????

Was there a play-action called the entire game? If they are blitzing why not any short passes slants or over the middle. There was not a single creative play called the entire game. Alan was a sitting duck entire time.

It's always on Daboll. Uncreative, no adjustments to the blitz, every run telegraphed, nothing over the middle,continual home run shots instead of some easy throws. It was obvious from the first series they were in trouble and did not improve throughout the game. Review the play by play and relive the nightmare. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401127868

Still was a drop & crucial as it was a TD!!!! A great pass & would have been a very good catch (something he is paid to do).

They showed one replay & I saw it hit him in the chest..... Erased the game in disgust.

Again Daboll, Daboll, Daboll..... Allen was not good, but Daboll was so obvious.... Strong wind & every play was telegraphed. Bad drops & too often put in a bad position. This team can't throw a screen or slant to save their lives & Allen under ridiculous pressure. They only showed one replay but Mackenzie dropped a great pass that would have been a TD. I have it a C

The PI on Beasley was a no brainer called every time (he was breaking free, interfered & tripped). No idea why that is being questions.

It hit him in the chest and was a great pass. Not a drop, but it was right there.