Billsfan1972

Shhhhhh!!!! Quit talking logic.... Oh & they have been none of the worst offenses in football since November......

BTW I've not seen a replay, but was Allen really short or again did the refs give the Patriots a generous spot?

Trubisky carved up the Dallas D, which has feasted on an easy schedule too (they did show up last week mind you).

No excuse for three straight weeks.... Others are able to amass yards vs. NE, Pitt & Balt......

Three straight weeks & 17 points.... Can say whatever he wants, but this team only scores over 17 by accident. Three straight games < 300 yards (total). Maybe I should get off the 300 yard passing thread & ask for 300 yards in total Offense!!!!? Last week vs. Pitt they turtled prior to the half up 7-3 and gave the ball back twice to Pitt in the fourth by running up the middle. The first series vs. NE already in fg range they ran 5 straight plays & then finally throw the ball on a 3rd & long where there is no choice. Watch NE mix up plays, easy check downs, screens & a clean pocket almost the entire game (and a their offense has been one of the worst since November). The Bills threw it 25 times yesterday (9 in the last drive). They came out & set the tone in the first half and then after going up 17-13 & forcing a 3 & out, ran the ball three straight times giving the Patriots the ball back. The offense is so uninspiring, so little creativity & a coach that can say all he wants, but in reality wants no turnovers & to play the game close to the vest & between the 20's.

QB's miss passes all game, every game..... Brady yesterday was accurate for the first time in weeks due to the Defense giving him too much time & respect. However when you throw only 25 times (9 in the last drive) the misses look worse. Add to that little to no time to throw because often in bad position & throwing dons it looks worse. So difficult to watch week after week.

Exactly what I thought...... Oh & how about a big body & target to throw to in these situations. Again I think of Duke WIlliams TD's (regular & pre-season) & how simple the plays were. That first down play doomed them. And again no screens or short passes out of the gate to get into a rhythm.... Everyone knows a run is coming on first down & always between the tackles. Infuriating to watch.

At least many here on TBD..... Make no mistakes, score 17 and let the D do the rest....... All week we heard how smart they were doing that vs. Pitt...... And that's exactly how they played the following series up 17-13..... Three straight run plays & a punt....... Then at 17-16 again a 1 yard run on first down to put them in a hole.....

No the point was that NE's D knew almost every play the Bills were running & Allen was in trouble or a 2 yard run. Meanwhile NE was prepared for the Bills D......

The Bills scored what McD wants.... They reached 17 & had a lead..... This is pretty much the same story over & over...... 17 Cleveland, Pitt, Baltimore & NE..... And forget trying to score more.

McD & Daboll are thrilled, the Bills scored their expected 17..... Same thing all year. The first drive set the tone...... Run the ball and get those 3 points...... How come the Bills D did nothing to confuse Brady...... Again it is Daboll & the fact the opposition knew what was coming.

Well we scored our usual 17..... The defense however allowed 24.... It all started after the fumble recovery & deciding to run the ball & settle for 3.....

And Dan hit the nail on the head (as wrong as he was about Allen & the 4th quarter)..... No one is turning on the Bills (outside their & the opponents fans) Sunday @ 1:00 pm when there are 8 games to see a 17-16 game..... BTW opposite the Baltimore game was a yawner NO vs. SF, which we know would have upset McD & his disciples here.....

So are you telling me that Kyle Shanahan is a better coach then McD since he turned them around immediately & has a great D too? How about McVay & how quick he turned the Rams around & made the SB? Garoppolo is 4-1 throwing under 200 yards & almost all were 14+ point wins..... They too averaged 27.8 points in those games with 3 over 30, a 9-0 win in what was considered just terrible weather & the loss in rain to Baltimore. Allen is 3-3 (though NE shouldn't count) & the wins were by 17, 15 & 7 & they averaged 18.2 points in the other 5..... Should I continue?

Forget 300 yards the Bills didn't even throw for 150 yards vs. Pitt or Balt. There always is some excuse. The defenses are good, giving Allen a chance to learn, this is part of the process... blah blah blah..... Don't you think that because Allen has the number one QB rating in the 4th quarter says something about his ability the other three quarters? Also a number of Jackson's games under 200 yards were blowouts (& included 3-5 td passes. The only one of Allen's that could be considered the same would probably be the Denver game however again only 20 pts.

Shaw we can agree to disagree. I use examples from all over the league because they are everywhere and qb's are posting these #'s every week. You have a narrative & believe McD is correct in almost every call & decision and conversely I think otherwise. I use the 300 yard measuring stick because it is an accepted stat & Buffalo is the only team in the NFL that is not able to reach it (not in 1 or 2, but 3 years). This is obviously on the coaching staff as we have the likes of Gardner Minshew, Kyle Allen, Drew Lock, Daniel Jones (1st game) & many others hitting that mark..... The defense is very good, but quit thinking it is legendary. BTW were they not down 16-0 week one? And vs. Philly..... Outside Baltimore & Dallas, the Bills have too played pretty bad offenses all year as part of what has been an easy schedule. Also many inexperienced QB's. The Pittsburgh game & your narrative that McD was so smart in knowing that they could beat them with Duck at QB is case in point. The Bills won, but that was primarily due to a shanked punt (40 yard field), an int (Pitt was driving) returned 60 odd yards & then the Bills basically kneeled until time to kick a FG, one drive with 2 completions & finally giving the Steelers two possessions at the end of the game to tie it..... It worked & then you come here and explain it was brilliant coaching (hyperbole) knowing that no mistakes & you win the game. Sorry I am tired of less then 150 yards passing (<300 total yards) the past two weeks from an offense that I think is much better. And unfortunately I expect to come here & read the same after the Pats game, which I expect will be the same game plan.

I'm an Allen fan...... I think he is way better then the OC & HC allow him to be, which is why I do go on.

No I'm saying that the Bills for some reason (i.e. coaching philosophy & paly calling) have not reached 300 yards passing in almost 3 full seasons, while every friggin team in the NFL is capable & does it at least once a season. Wow...... Still 28th, which is appalling & 31st & 30th the prior two years..... Do you guys really have so little expectations of the offense? BTW with such a good defense that means the Bills should too get more possessions & opportunities to shine. Interesting is that yes the Offense is 12th in plays & 22nd in yards this year (19th & 30th in 2018 & 15th & 29th in 2017), which again shows just how conservative & bad this coaching is....... Or it is Allen & we need a new QB (which I hope it is not).....

Tell me a team outside Buffalo who are on their way to their third straight season unable to do it & as I admitted Arizona in 2018 who hasn't. As said longest streak going into week 3 2019 was 11 after Buffalo's 35 (and they are now at 47) meaning every team had done it in 2018..... Every team has done it in 2019 & a quick check shows all in 2017 too (except Buffalo).

Dig deeper into average scoring & point differential & it too will tell you a different story. Oh & every QB threw for 300 during the regular season.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/300-yard-passing.html And Football Reference (see above)..... Add to that vs. Cincy they put up a graphic that the Bills had gone 35 games without a 300 yard passer & next nearest was 11, meaning everyone else had done it in 2018.....

Watkins for nobody, drafted almost no skilled players (Zay Jones) & paid for 2nd-3rd string receivers!!!!

Maybe 1-2 teams may not have done it in one league. Will admit that Arizona may not have in 2018 (maybe the worst offense in all of football)......

How is the last 10 SB's "Cherry Picking"....... Pretty simple & straightforward. 2015 Broncos had an injured Manning & along with Baltimore were as stated outliers & still better then Buffalo..... Here is my reference.... 2000 Baltimore 22 passing, 5 rushing, 14 in points. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2000/index.htm Denver 2015 14 passing, 15 rushing...... Not the 2014 offense but perfectly capable. Stick with the facts.....

Wrong on Both!!!!!! 2014 Denver was #2 & dropped in 2015 due to Manning being injured half the season. Baltimore was 14th in 2000..... Congratulations you found two of the lowest ranked offenses. Find me a bottom 10 Offense that made the SB? The majority of teams making the SB have a top 10 offense. Proves nothing.... Huh???? Quickly SB teams Offensive ranks... 2009 1 vs. 7 2010 10 vs. 12 2011 3 vs. 9 2012 10 vs. 11 2013 1 vs. 9 2014 1 vs. 10 2015 1 vs. 19 2016 1 vs. 3 2017 2 vs. 3 2018 2 vs. 4 So in total 11 of 20 were top 4..... 5 more top 10...... Yep good/great offenses every year.....