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I would've agreed if they didn't have so many darn issues with health at TE. If Kroft, Croom, and Knox weren't all hurt (some worse than others) I could easily see them looking to run an H-Back system for when they want a blocker back there, and when they don't keep a TE on the line to block as necessary. However their top 3 TEs have all been hurt, and Kroft will likely miss the start of the season. Lee Smith is a great blocking TE, but he's also slow and not a threat in any other way, so he's less than Ideal for anything but pass blocking... you can't really roll with him as your #1 TE. I don't see them cutting DiMarco when they don't have a viable healthy H-Back, and their TE position is in shambles... they're going to want to keep a FB to make sure they can spring the running game to take pressure off Allen in the passing game. Of course that's my opinion, and last year the stats showed DiMarco was not used much... but he was still on the roster... Could be wrong, but I think they keep him at least for part of the season until they get Kroft back healthy. Then they may get more creative with a healthy set of TEs who can run, catch, and block.

1) Brown 2) Jones 3/Slot) Beasley 4) Foster 5) OPEN 6) Roberts - Being mixed in as WR, but still primarily a Special Teamer From all reports that #5 spot is looking like Ray Ray McClouds, but the battle isn't over yet fellas.... while TC is wrapping up as they enter Preseason games, this is where the guys like Duke Williams and David Sills are going to shine more. Both are big bodied WRs which is something this roster will not have without them. They are high point jump ball threats who won't wow you with their top end speed like Brown, Foster or McKenzie, but their catch radius and hand skills getting free from defenders will. When Williams was signed, Beane said that is when he felt he didn't need to go and get a WR in the draft. They had a lot of faith in him as a player to feel that way... Then as has become famous from Bills Embedded, they made Sills far and away their #1 target in UDFA... so they really wanted him too, at the very least as a developmental project. At current, WIlliams is a more polished product right now as he played in the CFL And honed his game, where Sills is much more raw... but Sills has WAY more growth potential left in him... These guys won't stand out as much in shorts and helmets as they will with pads on in live game action... their skill sets are more conducive to being "Gamers" than practice studs... I am VERY curious to see if either of them stands out and makes a name for themselves to really start pushing to make this roster, or if they're going to stay left behind in the dust. As of right now the reports are that Williams hasn't been remarkable, and Sills has dropped a few too may balls and looked a little off balance running routes. Could still be nerves, but both need to right the ship if they want a shot at that last spot on the roster.

Camp body... not a lot of good players on sitting out there with 2880 football players in camps across the country already... and that's not counting guys on IR Look for them to evaluate their team Thursday, and if they aren't happy make a trade this coming weekend... They will also be scouring the waiver wire as teams do final cut down's but for now thats a few weeks away and they need someone to be here to take additional reps now, but they'll be looking for a better player in any way they can.

Only one more practice for Camp before Preseason kicks off, and then combined practices with Carolina.... I bet we see Ford back in the OT spot with Waddle hurt.

All of those sound great... all will depend on Allen and now the health of the offensive line. I personally think Shaq is traded during TC before final cuts. He will be showcased a bit in Preseason like Sammy Watkins was, and then shipped off for something else... either a swing tackle and a draft pick or just a draft pick or two to help us get back to 7 in 2020, since we gave up one this past draft.

K-9 made the point I was going to. Until the HOF removes his bust, the Bills won't do anything regarding the WOF IMO... If they were going to do it, they should've done it when he went to jail. It was the perfect out... IF they did it out of nowhere now, it would be a whole to-do story. Why bring that kind of press in? ALSO IMO, when they decide on renovating the Ralph or building a new stadium either way I see them changing the way they do the wall of fame... it's not treated like other teams do their "Ring of Honor", I think they should move it to the outside of the stadium, or do a monument park style thing instead of having the names on the walls. It will give them advertising space, and it will allow them to remove someone like OJ who simply gets removed in the shuffle. It's less of a story if it's done in conjunction with a full on move of the entire wall, and people won't be all that outraged by him being taken down with the others and not be put back up. Just my 2 pennies though...

I mean you're definitely not wrong that they'll do that, but if they were high on McDermott's ability to play swing tackle, they wouldn't have added as many guys to the mix as they did. Beane is all about "churning the bottom of the roster"... Waddle is above that bottom tier, so I think this will get him very active in searching for a replacement... Honestly there may not be one available, teams aren't going to readily move a viable back up swing tackle at this juncture for the exact reason we need one... potential injuries. The only way we get a guy is if a team has extra and we have something to offer they really need... that's why I said RB or WR are our best trade bait right now. But a move is unlikely. But if the position doesn't shake out properly by cut downs, I expect to see the Bills shopping for a swing tackle at final cuts.

Done-zo for the year it seems, on Waddle... I could see them making a move to add another OT, and while you're right, Preseason will dictate a lot, I think this could prompt them to keep an extra O-Linemen too if they can't seem to figure out a proper swing tackle... We're definitely looking at a potential trade situation now. Maybe our depth at RB and WR will come into play... Yeldon or one of our many WRs could be moved for a back up swing tackle...

i posed about this earlier in this thread... there ARE Better helmets out there, which absorb impact rather than just holding the head in place better and still allowing the full impact to reverberate through the helmet to the brain. But the NFL And the NFLPA have been absurdly slow to pay attention to this technology shift... There is skepticism despite great lab results... but until someone takes a step and leap of faith and trys these helmets on a wider scale, no one will accept them. Its a shame, there is something better out there but no one will move to use them.

I'm wondering if the large number of issues they've been incurring on the O-Line will impact how many O-Linemen they end up keeping. I think we all were projecting 8-9, but if they're really worried about sufficient depth with this rash of injuries they may keep 10, which mean they'll need to trim back elsewhere. There was already thought they could carry 4 RB plus a FB, and 6 - 7 WRs depending if they keep 6 Plus Roberts as a special teams ace, or 6 including him.... Only 53 spots, it's going to be interesting seeing how they juggle this roster down to that and balance their injuries and depth concerns. Also more in alignment with the purpose of the thread, I hope Waddle is okay and on the mend! Good competition and depth across every position is key for camp and preseason.

[Moderator being a nice guy to this strange noob and deleting this unnecessary post. Patience already thin]

There was a time ...

He loves Rex, so of course he did... But tone at the top is what determines tone at the bottom ... Rex is a TERRIBLE HC and that trickled down and caused all the issues throughout the organization. If his staff is garbage, it's a direct reflection of the HC.

So you're telling me Rex Ryan's staff was dysfunctional???? NO WAY!!!! GET OUT OT TOWN!!!!

I will most likely be at both actually. The only ones I know I cannot attend are the last preseason game and the Ravens game.

My hope is Peterman beats out Glennon and then Carr stinks the house out and fans CLAMOR for Peterman... he gets his shot! Peterman 4 goes for 4 for 4 TDs..... all to the opposing team.... Peterman Cut the next day...

Sorry, I'll step up my game... I don't feel like "we're home!" on this kid, but I am more comfortable with where he is and where he has the potential to go than I have been since we had Drew DeadSlooooow here... I mean Drew was already ancient when he got here, but you knew what you were going to get, and things looked very up... Since him, it's been a cavalcade of bad to worse... question marks and piles of dog feces... But Allen brings a hell of a skill set, upside, great presence on and off the field, and I think there is reason for optimism... he could ***** the bed and all that will go away, but right now I think things look up for the first time in a VERY long time... Already handled this chief:

Agreed... no way Erie County would be interested in a new stadium build, and on top of the cost of a new stadium, building on this proposed area would require MASSIVE amounts of infrastructure to accommodate 70K people in and out of there... are you telling me people are going to drive city of buffalo streets and use the Ohio St. Bridge, thruway, and skyway to get to it? HAHAHAHAHAAH YEAH OKAY!!!!! Canalside is gridlocked when a big inflatable rubber duck comes to town and there also happens to be a concert... and thats like 20K people... picture 3+times that! Renovate the Ralph!

I love that he's also getting so much one on one time with Kyle Williams to help him hone his skills. I would bet that Kyle would be a coach on this staff if it weren't for his desire to be home in Louisana to spend time with his kids now. He made a big point about all of that last year after he made his announcement, and I bet he doesn't want to be on a staff as a coach up here, because it would be just like being a player. He'd need to uproot the family, etc... but this year is the first time he doesn't need to do that. Rather he gets to enjoy his kids, but you just can't take football out of the guy. So he's up here for camp, but will go home to his family for the season mostly....

Personally I was hoping they would sign Curtis Martin... but Gore will do I guess... This is 2005 right?

No, Ryan Groy signed with the Saints back in May, he's there fighting it out for a spot as their backup interior linemen. Sooooo No he won't be on the Bills 53 man roster lol Which sounds like a sound plan, until you take into account the fact that our Week 1 match up is against a hell of a stout front with the Jets under new management with Greg Williams. That Jets D is no joke, they added a lot of talent over there just like we have. If you expect to open up with a 60-40 run to pass and be successful against the jets and a shaky O-Line think again. This line MUST be gelled and ready to roll by week 1 or we're in for a VERY hard first game.

I entirely disagree that LA doesn't have a viable backup plan like the Steelers did... no one knew for sure what James Conor was going to be before this year. On the flip side the Chargers have Austin Eckler who started games, and last year as the #2 and spot starter went or 554 Yards, 3 TDs, and 39 catches for for 404 yards and another 3 TDs... in perspective, he had more rushing yards, receptions, receiving yards, and receiving TDs than LeSean McCoy last year as a backup. Eckler could step in and start for at least 10 teams in the NFL including the Chargers. Gordon is WAY over playing his hand, and with Eckler on the roster, I could see the Chargers deciding to try and move him rather than pay him if he refuses to report all year. But that said I don't see him going full on Bell... Bell didn't get what he was looking for in FA by holding out. Gordon is better off reporting and playing the game for more money than sitting out and over playing his hand like Bell did.

Been hanging around the Billievers Forums... but TBD needed an injection of football knowledge, so I figured I'd oblige...

Sooooo week 3 he'll walk into the locker room at half time and retire?

Or they can "sell" the chance to have your own cutout made... pay $150 and get your cut out placed in a seat at a game!