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Done-zo for the year it seems, on Waddle... I could see them making a move to add another OT, and while you're right, Preseason will dictate a lot, I think this could prompt them to keep an extra O-Linemen too if they can't seem to figure out a proper swing tackle... We're definitely looking at a potential trade situation now. Maybe our depth at RB and WR will come into play... Yeldon or one of our many WRs could be moved for a back up swing tackle...

i posed about this earlier in this thread... there ARE Better helmets out there, which absorb impact rather than just holding the head in place better and still allowing the full impact to reverberate through the helmet to the brain. But the NFL And the NFLPA have been absurdly slow to pay attention to this technology shift... There is skepticism despite great lab results... but until someone takes a step and leap of faith and trys these helmets on a wider scale, no one will accept them. Its a shame, there is something better out there but no one will move to use them.

I'm wondering if the large number of issues they've been incurring on the O-Line will impact how many O-Linemen they end up keeping. I think we all were projecting 8-9, but if they're really worried about sufficient depth with this rash of injuries they may keep 10, which mean they'll need to trim back elsewhere. There was already thought they could carry 4 RB plus a FB, and 6 - 7 WRs depending if they keep 6 Plus Roberts as a special teams ace, or 6 including him.... Only 53 spots, it's going to be interesting seeing how they juggle this roster down to that and balance their injuries and depth concerns. Also more in alignment with the purpose of the thread, I hope Waddle is okay and on the mend! Good competition and depth across every position is key for camp and preseason.

[Moderator being a nice guy to this strange noob and deleting this unnecessary post. Patience already thin]

There was a time ...

He loves Rex, so of course he did... But tone at the top is what determines tone at the bottom ... Rex is a TERRIBLE HC and that trickled down and caused all the issues throughout the organization. If his staff is garbage, it's a direct reflection of the HC.

So you're telling me Rex Ryan's staff was dysfunctional???? NO WAY!!!! GET OUT OT TOWN!!!!

I will most likely be at both actually. The only ones I know I cannot attend are the last preseason game and the Ravens game.

My hope is Peterman beats out Glennon and then Carr stinks the house out and fans CLAMOR for Peterman... he gets his shot! Peterman 4 goes for 4 for 4 TDs..... all to the opposing team.... Peterman Cut the next day...

Sorry, I'll step up my game... I don't feel like "we're home!" on this kid, but I am more comfortable with where he is and where he has the potential to go than I have been since we had Drew DeadSlooooow here... I mean Drew was already ancient when he got here, but you knew what you were going to get, and things looked very up... Since him, it's been a cavalcade of bad to worse... question marks and piles of dog feces... But Allen brings a hell of a skill set, upside, great presence on and off the field, and I think there is reason for optimism... he could ***** the bed and all that will go away, but right now I think things look up for the first time in a VERY long time... Already handled this chief:

Agreed... no way Erie County would be interested in a new stadium build, and on top of the cost of a new stadium, building on this proposed area would require MASSIVE amounts of infrastructure to accommodate 70K people in and out of there... are you telling me people are going to drive city of buffalo streets and use the Ohio St. Bridge, thruway, and skyway to get to it? HAHAHAHAHAAH YEAH OKAY!!!!! Canalside is gridlocked when a big inflatable rubber duck comes to town and there also happens to be a concert... and thats like 20K people... picture 3+times that! Renovate the Ralph!

I love that he's also getting so much one on one time with Kyle Williams to help him hone his skills. I would bet that Kyle would be a coach on this staff if it weren't for his desire to be home in Louisana to spend time with his kids now. He made a big point about all of that last year after he made his announcement, and I bet he doesn't want to be on a staff as a coach up here, because it would be just like being a player. He'd need to uproot the family, etc... but this year is the first time he doesn't need to do that. Rather he gets to enjoy his kids, but you just can't take football out of the guy. So he's up here for camp, but will go home to his family for the season mostly....

Personally I was hoping they would sign Curtis Martin... but Gore will do I guess... This is 2005 right?

No, Ryan Groy signed with the Saints back in May, he's there fighting it out for a spot as their backup interior linemen. Sooooo No he won't be on the Bills 53 man roster lol Which sounds like a sound plan, until you take into account the fact that our Week 1 match up is against a hell of a stout front with the Jets under new management with Greg Williams. That Jets D is no joke, they added a lot of talent over there just like we have. If you expect to open up with a 60-40 run to pass and be successful against the jets and a shaky O-Line think again. This line MUST be gelled and ready to roll by week 1 or we're in for a VERY hard first game.

I entirely disagree that LA doesn't have a viable backup plan like the Steelers did... no one knew for sure what James Conor was going to be before this year. On the flip side the Chargers have Austin Eckler who started games, and last year as the #2 and spot starter went or 554 Yards, 3 TDs, and 39 catches for for 404 yards and another 3 TDs... in perspective, he had more rushing yards, receptions, receiving yards, and receiving TDs than LeSean McCoy last year as a backup. Eckler could step in and start for at least 10 teams in the NFL including the Chargers. Gordon is WAY over playing his hand, and with Eckler on the roster, I could see the Chargers deciding to try and move him rather than pay him if he refuses to report all year. But that said I don't see him going full on Bell... Bell didn't get what he was looking for in FA by holding out. Gordon is better off reporting and playing the game for more money than sitting out and over playing his hand like Bell did.

Been hanging around the Billievers Forums... but TBD needed an injection of football knowledge, so I figured I'd oblige...

Sooooo week 3 he'll walk into the locker room at half time and retire?

Or they can "sell" the chance to have your own cutout made... pay $150 and get your cut out placed in a seat at a game!

There aren't 32 "starting caliber" Centers in the NFL IMO... Bodine was a bottom 10 starter at Center for sure, but the Bills went out and added Morse because he's a sure fire starting Center. As far as a backup center, Bodine is probably one of the best in the NFL ... as far as a starter, he's one of the worst in the NFL... If this Morse concussion protocol thing is an actual concern and not just a way to allow a vet to work on his own away from contact... then I would keep Bodine. You're better off having a guy who COULD start rather than someone like Long who is probably going to be your starting OG, and is a piss poor Center... If you dump Bodine, and Morse goes down, you need to move Long from OG (his natural position) to C, and now you have upset 2 different spots on the O-Line rather than just plugging and playing Bodine and keeping the rest of the line intact. I agree with you, I think Bodine was below average, and his ratings on PFF Showed that, but I'd still rather have him and not need him than need him and not have him.

Low quality post as always Teef.... Lawfirm would be disappointed in you...

True, but you didn't sign a contract... if you signed a 3 year contract at your current salary rate, you would be told you need to honor it, and you wouldn't have the freedom to just leave and get a raise... On the flip side from labor, the company you work for may not have the ability to pay you more so you leave are are a mercinary for money, and they put the time effort and money into developing you and you are leaving them in a lurch to need to bring in someone else and put that time and effort into developing them instead. Where's the loyalty to them for the time investment they put in? It's a double edge sword, and neither side is 100% right or wrong. Industry will do what's best for itself and sometimes what best for the workers, and workers will do what's best for themselves and sometimes do what's best for the industry.... If everyone is out for themselves (industry and worker) then there will always be these conflicts... but no where do you have industry taking care of their workers to the point where the workers don't want to leave ever... It just doesn't exist... Long story short, contracts should be guaranteed... but that is also going to mean changes being made to salary cap rules and how things are accounted for moving forward, because all of a sudden over night the penalties for cutting guys would change DRAMATICALLY... so it would need to be a multi-year phase in process with amnesty "buy-outs" sorta speak where you can cut a guy making a lot of money, but it doesn't destroy your cap. Lots of logistics would need to be worked out, but it would make understanding the salary cap much easier.

To be fair for day 6 they were juggling a lot of pieces around just to see how guys do at different spots, and Morse isn't in there. But you are right to be concerned, if these guys don't gel together, then this offense is going to be bad again... It will slow Allen's growth, it will negate the signings we made of weapons for Allen, and likely cause us to not be a playoff contender. So it's not a small thing if these new pieces can't come together... All that said, we have time! We still have a week before the first preseason game, and then we have 4 weeks with 4 preseason games for these guys to get used to each other, the coaches to tinker, and for things to gel. The real work is done during contact practices and games, that's how the chemistry is going to build. Sure shorts and helmet practices are good for these guys to learn basics and know where each other will be, but at the end of the day the way they'll build chemistry is when the bullets fly knowing where to be and the tendencies of the guys next to them. If by week 3 of Preseason we don't have our starting 5 set and they are still looking shaky, then worry, but for right now, take it with a grain of salt.

This is something the NFLPA wants out of the new CBA, they want guaranteed contracts like the NHL have... you can cut a guy, but they're still guaranteed the money you have said they'll make... The NFL for years have had a sweetheart deal with their players because they can sign these inflated deals for $100M where they're still only on the hook for say $50M, and if they dump a guy early they don't need to pay them even that, they just need to "account" for "guaranteed money" against the cap, they are not on the hook for the actual cash value to the player... Guaranteed contracts would change the way the NFL does business over night...

I dunno Muppy, I am on the fence on this... Melvin Gordon wants an extension so he isn't risking injury before heading into a FA period... that's actually reasonable. Where as guys like OBJ and Antonio Brown who are vets with 3 + years LEFT On their MEGA deals, and they want more money just because other guys have signed bigger deals in the 1-2 years since they signed theirs... that's just flat out greedy BS, and they should be ashamed.... There is "get paid when you can" and "money grubbing dick bag"... I feel like most guys are just trying to get paid while they can... but there are definitely the money grubbers who make the rest look bad.