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This is an interesting conversation that can go in many different directions. Right now, at this moment, the answer is Bruce. He, for my money, is the best to ever do it at his position. I know some would argue this for sure, but for my money, I'd take Bruce. Bruce, at his best, was an unstoppable force. You could argue something similar when it comes to OJ. His 2000+ yards in 14 games will never be broken. He may not be the best RB overall in history, but you could argue that he was the best ever for a period of time. As for Allen, his story isn't written yet. He's the most talented QB in Bills history. In my opinion, he's the most physically gifted QB I have ever seen play this game. I am as big a Kelly fan is there is, but even Kelly would tell you that Allen is a better player overall. Now, Kelly is in the HOF because of what he did in his career and he is an all time great for this franchise, but Bruce was a better DE than Kelly was a QB. It's a different era, and the game has changed dramatically from what it was in the 80s and 90s and it is hard to compare QBs sometimes because of this. But, as someone who watched every Kelly game at some point or another, Allen reminds me so much of him. Not so much in playing style, obviously, but the mentality, heart, desire, and toughness that Allen shows makes me think he could play in any era and be great. And, when it's all said and done, I truly believe Allen will go down in history as maybe the best to ever do it. He may never get to 7 Super Bowl wins or have the accolades that some others do, but he will set passing and scoring records that haven't been seen in the history of the league, providing he stays healthy and plays for a long time. So, what's the answer? Bruce for now.....until 1 of 2 things happen. 1. Allen leads this team to a Super Bowl win - The second this happens, he takes the number 1 spot no matter what he does the rest of his career. 2. Allen finishes his career as a Bill, MANY years from now, and continues to play at this dominant level. In the end, I have have no doubt that the answer to this question will be Allen one way or another. It's just a matter of how fast it happens. For me, I hope he lays claim to that title this upcoming February.

This is yet another game we will win but it should have never been this close. The coaching staff, specifically on defense and with time management, made this game 2-3 scores closer than it should have been. If we don't have the best player on the planet playing QB for us, we would be lucky to win 5 games. The stupid things they do with play calls and time management are holding this team back from reaching their full potential. So frustrating. Good win, though. Much needed.

D Williams back out there. Good news.

Man.....It really pisses me off that Allen doesn't get that TD there. Terrible phantom holding call. Even if we hold on here, that is a play that would be shown forever and now nobody will remember it. I know Josh won't necessarily care that much, but football fans should.

Ugh.....I hate the way that ended. Instead of ending the game, the Lions still win the game with 2 TDs. This game should be over and it isn't yet, especially with the way the defense is playing. And, of course the coaching staff is making it harder than it needs to be with more terrible clock management.

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???? Stupid refs take away an all time play.

Brown out in front there. Never a doubt that Allen was getting that. Just hope he's OK. He's been a beast all day. Hopefully just a stinger and he's back out there quick.

Allen maybe could have gotten more there, but it was smart to go down and just burn more clock.

What a call.... What a catch. Man, he drops the easy ones sometimes, but he comes through with the tough ones once in a while.

I know our defense is missing a lot of guys right now, but man......they are just really bad. Allen has to score again.

Groin injury

Spector on St Brown..... Not an ideal matchup.

I mean, you see how bad our defense is and how easy the Lions are moving the ball. Just makes it even more strange for them to try that onside kick there. This game changed with Williams went out earlier. We obviously had a plan with him on defense and the defense was playing well with him on the field. Now we lose Milano and Bishop on top of all the other injuries and our whole scheme and plan has seemed to have gone out the window.

Wow.....what a strange call to do that at this point of the game. Obviously Campbell knows how bad our special teams are and figured it was worth the risk. But hey, I do appreciate Hollins for not scoring there so Allen can add a TD to his MVP case.

Allen may have to score 2 more TDs to win this game....

Whelp, so much for keeping everything underneath. Swiss cheese defense is back.

Everything underneath. They are going to get yards. Just make them burn the clock while they do it.

Had them beat and now it's not over..... There is no way you can let that happen. LBs were just a hair shallow to not be able to knock that down.

Typical.....

Bishop has had learning moments in this game for sure, but he's been solid for the most part. Valuable reps for the future, though.

When Daboll was here, we ran a push pass play almost every other week. It was almost unstoppable. He leaves and, unfortunately, that play disappeared out of the playbook for whatever reason. I wish they would bring it back. They have the talent to run it.

Nice....

Spencer Brown is a dog out there.....

4 down territory. This is the kill shot. Gotta take it.

Awesome......refs got it right for a change.