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A terrible trade? Oh yeah. It should be mentioned on worst ever trade lists. But the funniest thing is that it’s not even his personal worst with the Texans. BOB’s handling of Clowney was to franchise him, then trade him to Seattle for a late third round pick plus two backup LBs while picking up half of his salary. It’s going to be tough to top that.

WOW! ?

That’s crazy. I’m glad the Bills didn’t get into the middle of that nonsense.

Hope so. That would be a beautiful luxury.

The clock is ticking on Hughes. He gutted out last season with a significant injury and he should be commended for that - as well as everything he’s done here. I don’t expect the Bills to part ways with him before this season, but I don’t think he’ll see the last year of his deal either. The DE position is getting revamped big time this year and next.

Truth. He’s got the goods, but I’d like to be more comfortable with his attitude. The ONLY thing that scares me about him is that I don’t want off the field problems that seemed to be brewing in Minny.

Yikes. I would not be down for that.

Crap. Yes, Mitchell Schwartz on the Chiefs. I’m a big McGlinchey fan though.

That’s actually a good point. Mike McGlinchey in SF and probably Schwartz with the Falcons. I’m blanking on a fifth though. I think you missed my point.

That’s fair. But people here lauded the Bills moves last season - and still do. They made Morse the highest paid center in the league. While he is definitely an above average center, he is not the best. Conklin is set to be the third highest paid RT and he’s above average but not third best. Those moves feel an awful lot alike. At TE the Bills signed Kroft to a 3 year, $21M deal (admittedly far less lauded). Hooper is getting a 4 year, $44M deal from the Browns this season. I’d much rather have Hooper for $11M/yr than Kroft for $7M/yr. Yeah. The talent is there. The coaching looks a lot, lot, lot better. It’s tough to be optimistic with the Browns, but the table seems set for them.

The Browns have some real talent, not just named. They still have big holes at LB (2), S (2) and LT. They also need a quality nickel CB and depth along the DL. That seems very possible at this point. It’s no guarantee of success of course. Coaching has to be good, players have to buy in and mesh, etc. There is real potential there though.

They’ve been clearing cap space.

Damn. That’s serious money.

And cutting him would leave $1.75M in dead money. The delta for keeping him is $8.025M. Despite the excessive criticism of him by some here, he’s worth that versus opening up a huge hole there. The Bills need to add at least one other DE with starting capability this offseason. A rookie who could rotate and learn under Murphy and Hughes this season would be a very good solution. A high end free agent would work well too and make Murphy the rotational DE. If we can get both then we can talk about whether we move on from Murphy or Hughes.

46.6% of defensive snaps. Hughes played 63.6% and Murphy played 65.1%. Couple ways to look at that. Shaq played about 72% of the snaps the other two played. If you take a straight line increase if he played a similar amount of snaps he’d have had 9 sacks. Of course you can also argue that his sack rate would tail off with the increase in workload. Shaq is a good DE, but I don’t believe he’s ever going to be a double digit sack DE. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2019-snap-counts.htm

I will lose it if the Bills trade more for Cook than what Houston gave up for Hopkins. Cooks is a quality player and he’d be the best WR on the Bills, but he is no Deandre Hopkins.

You’d have to think this was the case. I mean, we’re talking about BOB here, but still.

I agree with this. Basically gave up a second and took on the David Johnson boat anchor. We could’ve thrown in some late round picks.

Nope. TE was a huge hole on the Browns. Stefanski ran the most multiple TE sets in the league last season with the Vikings. The only viable TE on the Browns was Njoku. I expect them to also draft one.

I agree. A second and a boat anchor in David Johnson. BOB got hosed here.

Here’s hoping

Sarcasm? I believe that Dobbins is going to be a very productive NFL RB. I’d love for the Bills to snag him, but it would definitely require some draft manipulation. He’s not in the cards at 22 and he’ll be gone by 54.

One of the impacts of the CBA approval This morning is that team will not be able to use both tags. No other change has been made to the tags or their usage from what I’m reading.

Me too. I was really hoping for an upgrade.

Dunno about that in this case. You just made it very difficult to cut him this season if we do find an upgrade. This is both sides agreeing to give it one more season to see if it works out. My real issue is that it makes upgrading the position very difficult unless we move in from Lee Smith. In that case our new TE better be a good in line blocker. The initial contract they gave Kroft was terrible. If we’re going to keep him this season at least it’ll be for less money.