Dan

There a couple of guys that should be cut immediately. They're not helping upthe team win. They're not part of the future. They appear, in all apparent ways, to not even care enough to try. #85 is one of them. There is no rational person that can watch him on the field and think he as earned a roster spot.

I refuse to even say thier names again. Neither if these guys are even trying! The drops and lazy routes are just pathetic. How the coaches can cut players over "attitude" and allow these guys to see the field is a slap in the face to guys like Zay Jones and Josh Allen who ae clealry playing their ***** off to try and win. Add to the complete incompetence of this recieving/TE core, referees that just have to be on the take and it makes game all but unwatchable. I refuse to thing that the refs are just this bad. There is absolutely no way professionals can be this bad at their job. And its not just agains the Bills, so this is not a Billsgot jobbed rant. This is leaguewide. Either the league is showing favoritism to certain teams or they're fixing games for Vegas; but professional referees just can not pissibly be this bad all on their own. I was truly inpressed with Allen. I think we got a genuine franchise QB in the making. Cut every WR and TE not named Zay and Foster. Improve the OLine, and find out how much Pegs has to pay for a ref or two and we're definitely on to something next year.

I have to agree with Bado here... I lived through the 80's (actually the 70's too, but was a bit young to really remember football games). The mid 80s sucked for the Bills, sure. But thats a couple years in between a very good couple of years. Even the 70's and the domination of the Fins, do not compare to the nearly 2 decades of bad football we're still watching. This isn't a hot pocket, I think we should win every year kind of notion. The Bills have been irrelevant for nearly 2 decades! We finally make the playoffs, after going 9-7, and follow that up by putting up some of the worst performances in NFL history since then. Whatever hope we all had last January, is all but gone. Sure, we have the QB of the future and lots of picks and whatever... But, may I remind you, that's all based on hope and speculation. Allen, for as much as myself and everyone wants him to be the QB of the future, has shown extremely little this year. I mean like, less than Barkley little! So, forgive some of us folks ..that aren't so young.. if we put it all in perspective, recognize that we're still very much in the quagmire of being a losing franchise and haven't started counting all of Allen's wins already. To say that '84 and '85 were way worse, is ignoring the context of the last 18 years. Those numbers are simply astounding! I've never seen it summarized like that. Judging players and decided who's the greatest often depends on the individual and the fond memories we grow up with. But, there's simply no denying that OJ belongs in the top 2 of any discussion of the best RBs ever.

To all those who say this game sucked because of no defense... I guess you all hated the "no punt" game between the Bills and 49ers? Ya know, sometimes you just get a good game between two good teams who's offense continually have to step up make a play because the other's team's defense just did. I know we haven't seen the Bills do anything like this since the K-Gun, but that doesn't mean that football is supposed to be a play not to lose, punt at the 40, hope you can complete a pass game. It's what Bills' fans have been conditioned to, but thats just how far behind our team is not how bad their defenses are or anything else. Tonight's game was an amazing game. You had explosive offenses and great defensive plays lead to a back and forth slug fest with multiple players stepping up and making great plays when they absolutely had to.

Precisely! I've been saying this for a while. The biggest thing he needs is time to "relearn" his mechanics. Playing and running for your life made him revert to the old habits. If this year is all about Allen... then take the time and let him learn how play the position.

I stand corrected and apologize to Barkley. He's a better much looking QB than I was expecting.

If he's injured and can't/doesn't want to play, that at least makes sense. Thanks, I wasn't aware of his condition. I still wish they could have found someone that might have been a decent starter.

I'm not saying Bradford is good.. Or deserves the money he's been paid. I'm saying he's definitely better than the guy we're auditioning today. They're treating today like its the preaseason and i find it disrespectful to say the least.

What possibly could be the thinking behind signing and starting Matt Barkley for one game over signing a proven vet like a Sam Bradford? I would honestly rather see 5pick Peterman play over Barkely. I think the process is literally ..throw crap on a wall and see what sticks. The fans of this team deserve better than what they're putting on the field today.

I fail to see how anyone can truly think this staff can build an offense. And I absolutely would not start Allen again this year! How is he supposed to develop in this ***** show of an offense? Best case scenario is he gets another injury. Worst case is his confidence is shot and he reverts to every bad habit he's ever had while running for his life.

If he stopped throwing to Benjamin, his completion percentage would go up and the interceptions would be less. KB is doing everything he can to sabatoge the offense with his incompetence. Peterman, for as bad as he looks at times, is getting zero help from the rest of the offense. They've all either given up or were never capable. But we'll all continue to bash the QB and pretend anyone could look good in this offense.

I don't know if its the players or Daboll, but this offense is so bad that we could replace that entire side of the ball with players from the stands and it wouldn't look any worse. They should seriously consider just forfeiting the remaining games rather than embarrassing themselves like this again.

He should have been cut weeks ago. There is absolutely no reason he should be on the field. Not only is he not very good... but his "effort" is complete bush league. A complete disgrace when you consider all the players cut because they didn't have the right attitude.

Exactly... the explanation is complete BS. Sure you can hit a player at the los... but you can't run through a WR and take him out. It's crap like his that makes the NFL unwatchable.

WTF. How in the hell is that not Pass Interference!?? So now we have a blatant hitnto the head, and clear pass interference. ..not called.

People dumping on Peterman for that interception, might as well blame him for the fumble and return for a touchdown. It's just stupid. I get it you all hate the guy. And once your minds are made up, god forbid you even consider an alternative. But he has played the game that is being called for him. The problem... in this game and on the season.. zero run game and crappy wide receivers.

I think another key point to remember in all this is that they continued to shuffle the Oline and QBs, with no clear starters until after the preseason. There was no time for any chemistry or the offense to become established. They shuffled the WRs quite a bit as well. But with their injury status that's a little more understandable. But that is ..never.. a recipe for success in the NFL. Especially when you consider they had a new OC, it seems an even greater amount of hubris. It seemed obvious to me at the time, the most likely route to success was name your starters early and give them time to gel in a new offense. Not that it would be successful, but it was the best chance for success. That was start AJM as the only guy to have won an NFL game and had a few years prepping for NFL defenses. Peterman as his backup. And Allen watching, learning, and continuing to work on his footwork/mechanic/accuracy issues so that he doesn't revert to the flawed mechanics as soon as he's under pressure in a game. They all acted with a great amount of naivety or perhaps just plain cockiness. But they clearly underestimated, or just simply do not know, how hard it is to field a proper offense.

I don't like the options. Of course I support him; if he starts for the Bills why wouldn't I? Do I hate him? No. Do I expect him to do well... of course not. LOL. But nothing would make me happier than to see him have a great game. Look good and over the next few weeks become a decent starting QB. It only helps the Bills with their backup QB. With trade options. With all things team related. I honestly don't think he ever will... but as long as he's starting for the Bills I'll always support him and hope he does well. So so I guess after all that. I should just vote supporter. Although, I wonder if that's what this poll is about.

Sorry...I didn't mean to.

I keep seeing this idea posted over and over. Yes we have no talent on Offense, but who's fault is that? It's entirely too convenient to say... We had to dump all the talent to free up cap space or get rid of bad attitude guys. The bottomline is, the current regime dumped all the talent - other than Shady - and have done next to nothing to replace that talent drain. So.. It's on them. And...precisely. That dumping of players has led to a historically bad offense. It's unimaginable to think they could be this bad. But they are. And what's really making alot of fans, including myself, question the FO and coaching staff is that not only are we not a competitive team, we're not even showing signs of improvement or potential improvement. The offensive side of the ball is a disgrace. And they 100% created this offense. So, it's not unfounded to question their competence.

Thanks!!

Can someone help me out? Is the game 8:15pm eastern time? I'm in Texas this week. And wanna know when to look for it.

As others have said, we are now in year 2. This ..IS.. the team McDermott and Beane are building. They didn't inherit a mess; they created it. And I can not understand why anyone thinks they can magically make all the right moves and turn this team into a Superbowl contender with one off season, after what we've witnessed so far.

If the Bills FO trades their ONLY offensive player that has any chance to make a defense game plan for, then they should just be truthful to the fanbase and openly admit that the the current goal in 2018 is not to win games. And anything less than a 1st for Shady, to a team as desperate as the Eagles, should not be considered.

Excellent post. And sums up the key emotion to how I see the Bills. They are so much more than a football team. They represent the town my parents grew up in (i was born elsewhere). They represent my family, my roots. Most of my extended family still live in Buffalo, and when I cheer for the Bills, I'm cheering for them. My family, the City, and this team are entertwined. However, I disagree with your closing statement. I see no reason to be optimistic. McBeane have shown to be no better at building a team or developing a young QB than any past regime. In fact, I could argue they're sooooo much worse than many of them. But, perhaps they'll get lucky. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that the Bills are still here and still my team. I hope they win. I hope they get it right this time. But, I have no expectations that they will. And all indications are that they're gonna be preaching some new catch phrase in 2 years when the current process has failed to guarantee a baby. And yet we'll still be here... Go Bills!