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Definitely. A loss likely costs them a bye. Mr. Belichick is going to whip our tush yet again

Put the rosy homer glasses aside... EJ starting: Bills were 3 point underdogs Thad starting: Bills were 1 point favorites (after the line didn't change for 4 days) It's not a good sign when your "Franchise QB" has no respect around the league.

Pettine wanted to come here because it was an open DC job where he could advance his career. Whatever on Marrone, I think he's nothing but a meathead former OL guy that uses buzzwords and nonsense to motivate people and probably has no idea what he's doing, he at least proves that with his game management skills. But, I will not be surprised that if/when Pettine leaves and Marrone remains, the team gets significantly worse.

It means the Bills can beat Miami occasionally and have a clear advantage in the trenches against them, despite having virtually no offense in either game this year. Basically, 6 to 8 win irrelevant football. Now win at New England and then you're proving something.

Weather is going to be terrible on Sunday, too. Inch plus of cold rain likely. It gonna be a tough sellout.

I think McNabb is the best example in those areas, he was never that accurate for his career. Although, he made up for that with excellent pocket presence, and had a better arm and athleticism than EJ has.

1) LG (goes without saying... Legursky/Brown shouldn't be in the league) 2) OLB (It is ridiculous that Moats has been at least a part-time starter here for FOUR YEARS, great guy but no) 3) QB (No, I won't bother) 4) RG (Urbik's been terribad this year. Hopefully just because of injury)

I agree with the flaws you mentioned, but that doesn't mean CJ can't be a valuable player. While Gailey/Nix showed terrible understanding of CJ's positional value drafting him 9th, they knew from the 1st day how to use him. Split him at WR occasionally, do whatever to get him in open field. I remember Gailey talking about that the day CJ was drafted, and was so pissed at this stupid team. Many people demanded that CJ be used as a "workhorse" back which he absolutely isn't, no matter how gaudy his YPC is. At Clemson, he was the same with taking himself off the field constantly, and rarely ran between the tackles. I don't know what the deal with his stamina is. And now with meathead coaches who stress "accountability", "obey me or you're gone (which I'll let the local PR guy say)" authoritarians, CJ is stuck as your normal RB that doesn't even get many screens. But, boy is he gonna work hard!

Stafford's only a "stat guy", and by stats, counting numbers that mean little in regard to performance, because his team throws a very large amount. He's never been that good.

Go team

Titans fans that I talk to are generally displeased with how highly their team values guards (Levitre and 10th overall pick Warmack). I agree with them. Losing Levitre hurt, I would have kept him at under $8M per. You're Buffalo, you have a rare top player at a position, I think it was a time to pony up. I would have easily kept him over Wood. But, I can definitely see why the team wouldn't. Losing Rinehart for relative peanuts to the Chargers and not replacing him with NFL caliber players is where anger arises. Sure, in 3 years when he can be cut for minimal dead money loss Shut up, fool.

Cool story, and I know that's a factor in any work environment. Where I have an issue with Marrone is that this is ALL he talks about, while it really should be kept in-house. Do you have any idea which players are the ones that "work hard"? No. I don't either. I assume that the vast majority of NFL players are doing what they think is best to perform at their best. I assume that every NFL team demands that their players "work hard", there's million dollar jobs at stake for everyone in an extremely competitive field, it's serious business. I assume that every player wants to win, beyond whatever team pride and such, if they win, they get more money and prestige. Thus whenever I hear Marrone talk, it's boring meaningless claptrap. If I had to listen to him everyday, he'd be Charlie Brown's teacher to me. He's not coaching children.

It is irrelevant because he had an awful game until that point except for one good pass to a wide open Goodwin and screen passes, the defense carried the day. Tuel sucks and has no business on an NFL roster. And those people are idiots who probably just watched the Colts game.

It's not just this board. Everyone thinks Graham sucks. TJ has definitely improved his route running this year, and he's been noticeable in blocking as mentioned. When he can get off the line, he does get open more than his catches suggest. But, the guy has awful hands, really struggles tracking the ball and lacks an NFL body to consistently break jams. He's like DHB without the size. TJ seems like a great guy and all, but he just can't play.

If the Bills lost their remaining games, they would have. It's not hard to count wins and losses. And Mariota said he was returning over a week ago. Maybe you should try listening to WGR and other sports media to keep up on the draft, and not tooting your own dick.

It's more than speculation since it came from the Bills PR man. It was a clear message to someone, probably Stevie. I think that's a poor way to handle things, and definitely not a TEAM way of handling things from Mr. Work Hard.

Probably. Pears was good in 2011, then got back and hip injuries and his play declined. I also think the OL coach blame is unwarranted. Glenn and Wood are still good. Urbik and Pears have been injured, and the Bills' FO punted LG for unknown reasons.

Please PLEASE stop with the Wilson comparisons. You're banging against a wall.

That would continue a "losing culture".

You only change the "culture" by winning games, so no, Marrone hasn't despite saying whatever bullplop he does every week. Why talk about buzzwords when you already know the answer.

I've refrained from calling Antonio Romo a choker and all that... until today. What are you thinking audible..ing to a pass with 3 minutes left up 5, you dolt.

They're hopeful, long-suffering fans with a touch of forced optimism that they likely won't admit. While EJ had a good game after the 1st quarter, I guess, his main issue is still glaring. He's not accurate enough. There's times where he gets happy feet and loses pocket presence, I think that will gradually be fixed. But, I'm not confident he'll ever be a good enough passer. No NFL team will purposely lose. They may rest a player or two that they wouldn't if they were in contention, but that's the limit. I realize coaches, players, staffs have to win to keep their lucrative jobs and owners need to keep fans happy and put butts in seats. There's fans that want to win every game, and that's cool. I want to win a championship, or at least realistically be in the chase for one again before I die. Higher draft position may not always work out, but I'll take that tangible asset over whatever this win over Jacksonville is supposed to mean, which I don't care about already. I think mocking people like myself who think like this is bollocks, but whatever.

I'm anything but a fan of Schopp, but realize that their show, especially the post-game ones are not catered to you. It's about getting ratings and pissed drunks to call in. Most who have any interest left in this lost season are based on if EJ can look like a good QB.

I think winning at @NE would mean something. I hate the "culture" stuff, but that would be a nice thing to look back on all offseason and would be a shot of confidence for next year that you don't automatically lose the division.

Thanks, if that's entirely correct I still maintain they should have got the Fitz thing done and over with Seeing that $7M with Fitz name next year bugs me, especially since they could definitely still use him