Kirby Jackson

I don’t know about all of that but thanks. Rosen has been my guy since before last draft so I was a little bummed. Allen is a high ceiling, low floor guy. I don’t think that he will ever be a “pretty good QB.” He won’t have Andy Dalton’s career. He is going to be Matt Stafford or a farmer in 3 years. There is a lot risk with him but potentially big rewards. It wouldn’t have been the move that I made but I get it.

...you are proving my point. Watching YouTube highlights and listening to Jeremy White doesn’t make people experts. I’d probably have you in the 5% anyways. The people here are infinitely more informed than the typical Bills fan. I’ve interaccted with thousands of them.

If someone asked me to draw someone racist they would look a lot like that with a hint of NASCAR sprinkled in. I’m surprised to see you having an opinion on race relations....

I might be mistaken. I thought that they got one in one of those deals.

That’s the word on the street

The Cardinals tried to trade to 7 for him but couldn’t match our offer.

You win with stars not warm bodies. The Bills potentially got a franchise QB and an All-Pro LB. That is way more important than fringe starters. Allen wasn’t my guy. However, if someone that the Bills would come out with a top 4 QB and a consensus top 10 player, without giving up anything in 2019, I probably would have kissed them.

A little of both.

We can include Rosen’s mom too if it will make you feel better I bet she’s moved a few needles if you know what I’m saying...

On a side note, I’m surprised a kid raised by those 2 is racist

I’m just waiting for Allen to fail so we can get Jake Fromm and his mom.

Really well said!! I couldn’t agree more.

Whoops, never mind then, I’m an idiot

Good topic!! The only gripe is that you can’t have Edmunds and pick 65.

Me too (and the Bills seem to be as well)

I like the idea of moving Shaq if you can get that for him. To be honest, I kind of forgot that he was on the Bills. If he stays it may be worth bulking him up some and kicking him inside in passing downs. He did some of that at Clemson. He isn’t much of an edge rusher IMO but he holds up well against the run. I just can’t seem to shake that feeling that Carter is Tarik Cohen. I am sure that I like Carter more than most. The Bills seem to like Ballage. He may be a target in there somewhere.

Now that we know that Allen and Edmunds (not to be confused with Allen Edmonds shoes) are coming to OBD what do you want to see over the next 2 days? I will throw a scenario out there to be crucified: - trade 121, 166 & a 2019 4th for a 3rd - Dante Pettis in the 3rd - Tyrell Crosby in the 3rd - Avonte Maddox in the 5th - Poona Ford in the 6th - Martez Carter in the 7th I’m getting a WR (+ punt returner) and OT tonight. I get a CB, DT and RB tomorrow. The other option (in honor of Bandit) is to trade one of those late round picks for Travis Benjamin.

Except Miami and New England (once Brady retires)

That’s a good guess too

I also think that it is important to monitor the positions that were in for visits. The Bills had primarily corners, WR, RB, OL along with the QBs and LBs.

I don’t know if they will consider him then

I don’t remember did he play in Carolina at one point?

Allen and Wentz

Ha ha, I am just reading this now. Well said!!