Prickly Pete

Trent Murphy blows.

Yeah, it's actually only about 6 out of 10 guys doing it. It's a misdemeanor. The average person might have to pay a fine, and no one would hear about it.

I wouldn't draft Jacobs. Point is, just interjecting "you build the trenches, dude" into any discussion about the first round is tiresome, and pointless. Your follow up response to me is cool, and is an appropriate response to the OP. Or even a simple "Josh Jacobs blows" would suffice, at least it deals with the player in question.

Then why do so many teams select WR, CB, QB, etc at the top of the draft? Ohhhh, I see, you just want to interject that YOU feel they should "start with the trenches". You were compelled to throw that in wherever a person might post about a skill player being selected first. Thanks!

Why? Are we here to will it into happening by interjecting it into every draft discussion. Do you think if everyone here repeats it, the Bills will follow your command? The poster merely suggested that he thinks the Bills might select a RB. He didn't say "I want them to select an RB". Why do people respond to the idea with a shout down of what they want, or think should happen, instead? He didn't say "I hope they don't draft a lineman". If they select an RB I'll be fine with it, because I trust that they know what they are doing. But I expect a D-lineman.

I think the previous regimes did have a plan. It was called "Let's find a quarterback". Now that a regime here has a QB, developing a team, and implementing a plan is possible.

Zay Jones blows.

I like him. I like almost all the D-lineman at the top. Pretty much can't go wrong.

I don't think a team HAS to have a superstar wr, but this Bills team needs one better than what they currently have. And that's all that matters.

I can't help but think they will take a front 7 defensive player with the 1st pick, now. It feels like they are hedging their bets everywhere else, knowing that is the strength at the top of the draft.. There doesn't seem to be good value at WR/TE at 9. And while I would love an elite O-lineman, I think they are taking a different approach there, and just trying to raise the overall talent level. We shall see, they may even trade down, and that would open up all kinds of options.

I never saw this. Amazing. Everything else about this thread blows.

Worst case...signing Antonio Brown, and forcing Josh Allen to cater to that fool.

There are too many Zay Jones Excuse threads. He is not a very good player, and I don't expect him to ever be anything better than "alright" in the future. Comparing him to Moulds is insulting to a near great Bill, who never really received his due attention.

I think people want a TE for the Bills so badly, that they are overrating this guy. I think he will be successful, but not really anything special.

You guys are mean.

I KNOW. I am giving a general response to the variety of attacks I received. My apologies, I have removed your quote from my response.

If someone actually bothers to read the thread, you would clearly see that I am referring to the idea that Kraft should automatically KNOW that the massage place was filled with sex slaves (it wasn't), and I stated that people are being exploited in various ways all around us, and pointed out that women are often hiring the VERY SAME women at nail salons for low cost salon treatments, and that often the customers are fully aware that they are receiving service from technicians that are being exploited. I also stated that most massage parlors are connected to nail salons, and this was contested. These 2 businesses being closely linked . Did I say ALL nail salons are connected to massage parlors? NO Did I say getting cheap nail service is illegal, and equal to receiving illegal sexual favors? NO I think it was pretty clear that I wasn't making those claims, yet some here somehow managed to imply that I had in fact made those claims.

OK, sorry to reignite this...

It's fine, but explain it to Augie. I didn't say the problem was ignored by authorities. I said it was ignored by the customers of the nail salons.( I didn't think that was hard to gather from what I posted).

A good read.... https://www.complex.com/sports/2013/09/history-athletes-busted-with-prostitutes/james-worthy I wonder how many prostitutes the "great" 90's Bills were involved with? Hmmmm...... I wonder how many strippers have been "overpaid" by Buffalo Sabres, Bills, Bisons, Braves and Bandits? Hmmm... Methinks the outrage is mostly fueled by a rabid hatred of the Patriots, and not so much by concern for "human trafficking". I could be wrong....

If he was just getting 45 minutes of massage, and a ball rub for the last 15 minutes from a 40 year old Chinese woman (which is generally the case with these "massage spas") that he paid $50 for at the counter, with $40 for a tip, I really don't see the big deal. If there is more to it, then I am fine with him being held accountable. My point about the nail salons is that THE SAME WOMEN that work the massage tables, are also working at the salons, giving low cost service to people (mainly women, many of them 'pussyhatters', no doubt) that KNOW full well that they are receiving a service at a "discounted rate", and are just as culpable for exploiting the trafficked women as the guys getting HJ's. One involves "sex" (cough) at an exorbitant rate, while the other involves a service at a "below market value" rate. Men/sex Women/vanity I'm right.

What? You are jumbling my responses and applying them to any question that suits you. Piss off. Anyway...it's very curious that the place was bugged by the police under the guise of there being a bomb threat. I don't know the timeline, but I thought I read that they had the surveillance cameras up for 2 weeks prior to the sting. I have to wonder if someone at the spa recognized Kraft during the Super Bowl broadcast, and let the cops know, or if there was some kind of inside cooperation.

Yeah...I know. That is why I mentioned it. There are people being exploited all around us...and plenty of people knowingly taking advantage of it. This Kraft incident just happens to involve sex, so it brings out a higher level of moral outrage.

yes, I did.

Not sure what your point is. Whether this one massage parlor is connected to a nail salon or not, most are. If anything, not being connected to a nail salon would indicate a place was more likely a legitimate massage spa. I don't care if people are outraged, but it should be informed outrage. You don't know what you are talking about. My main argument is that it is jumping to conclusions that Kraft should automatically KNOW that his masseuse was a sex slave. Not every parlor is filled with sex slaves, not every masseuse that provides sex services is a slave, not every masseuse provides sex services. In some of these places, the girls are more like "independent contractors". This place might have been all sex slaves, but to assume that Kraft knew that (at this point) is just speculation (by people filled with hatred for a rival football team, at least here).