What a Tuel

Seriously. Carolina just got obliterated by the Patriots. Does anyone remember Carolina beating the Patriots last year? I do. I guess the Patriots just got a lot better, and the Panthers just got a lot worse, because we all know Preseason is an excellent indicator of what the major players in the season will look like. I mean look at the major players from last year: Houston - 3-1 (2-14 Reg) Cleveland - 3-1 (4-12 Reg) NY Jets - 3-1 (8-8 Reg) Washington - 4-0 (3-13 Reg) Detroit - 3-1 (7-9 Reg) And look at all the bad teams: Green Bay - 1-3 (8-7-1 Reg) San Diego - 1-3 (9-7 Reg) Kansas City - 2-2 (11-5 Reg) Denver - 2-2 (13-3 Reg) Philadelphia 2-2 (10-6 Reg)

You've got to be kidding me. Blame the play calling. Blame the running game/penalties that came with it Blame the WR's who repeatedly fell running routes. Blame the poor O Line play. Blame the poor throws/decisions by the QB But are you really going to claim "they didn't try hard enough, because manuel got his job too easy?" Give me a break. The whole damn offense played poorly. Stop focusing on the QB. We have a young team, and young players are going to make stupid comments when we lose. Thats the gist of it. The problem seems to be the playcalling. Everyone and their mother could see we ran like 5 different plays the entire game. Either Hackett is saving the playbook for the games that matter, or he is an idiot. I'm leaning towards idiot.

Tuel looked great last preseason too.

for the optimism!

So I guess Julio Jones(Edit: substitute Roddy White if you wish) is not a 1,000 yard receiver. Why haven't the Falcons released him yet!? Speaking of falcons, are you really railing on him because of his whopping 1 fumble total last year?

And we don't see Jackson on there.....that must mean something!

This is what I figured. Season needs to start, people are getting antsy as usual.

Can someone provide an exact quote of Jackson's "disrespect", and apparent mutiny on Marrone? I assume it was when he criticized practicing with Pittsburgh. I mean I keep seeing Jackson getting paired up with Hughes as if they are the leaders of some insurrection, so it would be nice to get the quote. Google revealed nothing. Regardless, these guys have practiced a lot, played 3 preseason games, and still have 2 more to go. I know they are paid for this, but give them a break if they want to vent a little. Geez.

Fights at Bears, Packers, Broncos, Cowboys, Eagles, Seahawks. Follow OP logic and the seahawks are 2-14 Google "X Team training camp fight" and you will come up with some fight in that teams training camp. The only problem is hughes mouth, which hopefully will subside once camp is over.

When did one person not having respect turn into the team not having respect? Stop overreacting, and damn if your post doesn't read as if you are giddy about all of this lol. It brings new light to putting the need to be right over rooting for your team.

Can anyone here tell me the definition of the word bigotry? It seems to be being thrown around so much I figure someone should know it right?

http://img.gawkerass...if/original.gif Mostly joking....

Yep. http://www.seahawks.com/news/articles/article-1/Seahawks-trade-for-QB-Terrelle-Pryor/4f003675-4d48-4f25-acc7-fa571554dcc4 For a seventh round pick, but traded nonetheless.

Yeah definitely! Oh geez. Just saw that 3rd down "drop" he had. If Manuel would've thrown that, it would've been all Manuels fault for not putting it on the numbers haha.

He drew 2 PI/Illegal Contact Penalties + that catch and was blocking like mad in their first game. I thought he did pretty well for the little he played. Gonna boot up yesterdays right now, and see what he did last night despite no catches.

Exactly. "Manning is old, washed up. We should try to trade him while he still has value!"

5/9 39 yards. 49ers are doomed.

I was going to elaborate on the whole Brady thing, but it's just going to open a can of worms. The point was that I was trying to point out that QB's and WR's can be out of sync at times, and provided an example of a QB being out of sync with his WR's. That is just one of the many issues we had last night other than "EJ is garbage" which I know you didn't say. 27 passes in one half is a lot, maybe they wanted EJ to shine and it backfired. Last year he attempted 30 a game on average. I know Tuel looked pretty crisp and decisive last year in the Preseason

Bills WR core being Watkins Woods and Williams? On another note what was with the first drive going with the shotgun on three straight plays. Especially on 3rd and 1?

The point wasn't to compare Brady to EJ I thought I made that clear. The point was to point out that every play, there are a number of things going on besides EJ throwing the ball. It's like people just pile on though. Play after play, it just builds on them, and they begin to blame EJ for every pass. Let's just drop it though, I should never have brought it up. Commercials don't help either, waiting 10 minutes to watch 2 minutes of game, just to see in incompletion gets on people's nerves. Thats why I suggest watching the condensed version of the game. It cuts out the crap, and the waiting, and you might actually see that it wasn't as bad as you think. That's a good way of putting it. I say give him time to develop, and sync up with his receivers before we turn on him, rather than saying "he is garbage" and sulking for the next 2 years until we draft another RD1 QB to throw into the fire.

Not only that but they blame every incompletion on the QB. Does anyone notice that when Brady threw errant passes last year, they were talking about the WR's not running routes properly, and breaking when they shouldn't and vice versa? not that Brady sucks. Manuel isn't Brady, and Manuel did make some poor throws last night, but there is a lot more going on there than meets the eye. Like I said somewhere else, rewatch the game condensed on Preseason Live it'll take 20 minutes to watch the first half, and I think you guys will feel a little better. I did at least.

That's my take. I try telling the people who watch it with me this, but they see their EJ bashing as productive analysis of the game. I see it as a whole lot of negativity in week 2 of the preseason. Wait all year to be down on your team and depressed ala "woe is me"? No thank you.

The problem people have is that the "QB discussion" you seem to love goes like this: Poster 1: EJ Manuel is not the answer. He clearly isn't good. Poster 2: Give him time to develop. Poster 1: You must not be watching close enough. It goes like this with people in person too. People don't like that Manuel doesn't pass their "eye test" and are too impatient to give him time to develop.

I suggest people get a hold of the condensed version of the game, and watch it again. I watched it last night, and I was very disappointed. Just watched it again with the condensed version on Preseason Live this morning, and it wasn't as bad as it felt. The sky isn't falling.

Anyone come out with some new clever names for their fantasy football teams? I came up with Pegula Oblongata, but it would suck if he didn't get the team. I think I might risk it though.