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Well that's just it Bill. When you focus on a player at training camp you get to see what YOU want to see, not the television camera that follows the ball around. There is no comparison between the two perspectives and the information you can gather from them. You get to watch the entire play. You get to see the instruction that goes on in some cases right after the play. You get to see the reaction of the player lining up against him. You get to see the guys work ethic. Most of all you get a real good sense of a guys pure talent level. It's right there for you, and it either stands out or it doesn't. And as an added perspective, when you've been going to training camps for 23 years you have a lot to compare it to both good and bad. You've seen the Ballards, Wolfords, Fina's, Loucheys (gulp), McKenzies, etc.... Unfortunately Big Mike has only begun this season to really show major growth like one would expect of his draft stature, so many are correct in their general concern. But it was this perspective that allowed a true look at the mans talent, and work ethic (family incident not withstanding) to the point where you could feel comfortable that he will become a good one. Take it for what it's worth to you.

As you know already Bill, I have always supported Big Mike's play as a Bill. I've had the advantage of seeing him probably 12 different times at training camp and have seen the potential. Now that he has a real coach, he can reach that potential.

You're right if you are refering to kickoffs.

Of course Bellichick would be the leader of the geeks. I wouldn't be surprised if he designed that site himself as he leaves no statistic or tendancy unturned

Nate has been playing some good ball this season, and provides much additional value on Sprecial Teams. I say let him talk any way he wants to.

Try again bud. Look at the numbers. Top five in the league in all coverage categories. There are way more starters on ST this year than last. I assume you already put down the crack pipe.

He meant KG and the OL coach I bet.. Danny Smith was a pretty good ST coach.

Oh, I thought that was merely a dream

I missed the Titans and on Carolina...

13-2 here. Strangely Cindy89 and I made all the same Pics

Our coverage teams were among the tops in the league under Danny Smith. April's schemes along with the new blood and focus have completely turned around the return teams though. They are doing a fantastic job right now.

Nope. Some were I guess but I've supported his play since he came here and it has gotten better this year, despite the one incident early in the season.

Ok I'm thinking of the wrong play then. I was thinking of a play where Clements went real low to tackle Holt, which prevented more yards after catch. Oops!

Alligator arming my ass. That's nonsense. He tries to do to much (ie. RAC). That's when he drops balls.

You know I didn't see it that way at the time but you're right. His skill as a pocket disrupter is something we've only seen since the benching. He was right . That man can flat out play when he's driven!

With this defense at home and ST we can beat anybody. It's probably the toughest home game on the schedule but not entirely out of the question. All bets are off on the road.

Actually he really had just one. It was a bad one though.

I think you're right in a sense but to me it's more of a Home vs. Road manufactured mental pressure type of thing with Drew. he "chokes" on the road if you will.

No way. Clean textbook tackle.

Like I say, what a panzy conference the NFC has become. Martz's team got his ass kicked today and actually I thought Holt's whining was the most hillarious. Awe Clements made a textbook tackle on you. Wahhhh!! Mould's hit was a legit gripe. That's it.

I think we'll all be happy if you're right about that

It must be hard for them trying to support a pansy-ass conference like the NFC So many finesse teams that throw for big yardage and can't play defense. I was sure yelling at my TV on the "just give it to him"-esque touchdown Holt got today, as well as the hold on Evans that would have had no impact whatsoever on the play.

Ok well according to the roster he weighs about 10 lbs more now than in college. Believe me I saw him plenty as a Cuse fan He probably is indeed a bit slower than in college but he's got plenty of speed to succeed.

Ice is right. He is a bigger back now but guys don't be deceived by what appears to be a "slow" moving inividual. Watch the (should have been) touchdown run again and notice the speed down the sideline. He has long and fluid strides. I would bet that right now even that when he gets to the second level he's going at somewhere between 4.35 and 4.4 which is plenty fast enough. I think when he gets the opportunity he will show that he can not be caught from behind by most players.

Right or Wrong ICE, you're doing the same things that spiked lemonade did just before he was banned.