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Hey there mr. Crazy!

Touche'

I'd also add though that while I agree that teams are generally out to shut down our running game and make Drew try to beat them, The O-line still needs to block better for the riunning game. There are teams out there who can run at will , wether it's based on talent or intelligence, and we need to get closer to that to be effective, especially with the amount of poor weather our team plays in.

*< Crickets chirping > * ...... ......... ...... ........... ..... You know DC I think that may require a thread of it's own

You know ... that really hasn't been brought up here yet I'm sorry I couldn't help myself

Well conducted thread Simon and all... I'd add that I think at times the missed assignments mentioned postgame by the coach included backs and TE's. Of course everyone has a mind of their own but this is something that can often influence an overall perception of how an O-line is playing. The O-line is the Rodney Dangerfield of football. They don't get talked about when they make good plays combined with the fact that when Joe Schmoe sees a Defensive lineman coming clean he assumes that an offensive lineman is at fault. Sometimes that is the case, and sometimes it is the responsibiltiy of a back or TE , and other times yet it is a planned unaccounted for man that the play is designed to account for by the flow of the football.

That was actually pretty cool

1- Good info ICE, thanks. 2- Your quest to be "right" in the minds of all grows nearly as strong as at this time last year.

I'm not sure about Clements not cutting it. Since not making a smart play on the ball in week 1 he has been very solid in coverage, enough so that teams generally aren't throwing his way. He could learn a thing or two still from old AW in run support though. Also, McGee I thought bounced back nicely Sunday night from his piss poor outing vs. the Jets. If you have a tape, watch the plays he was involved in again and look at his improved coverage technique. The Bills were blasted mostly over the middle and vs. zone schemes. This was a non-chickenlittle-esque thread so I thought I might put my $.02 in.

I will continue to post whatever I feel like posting at any time, but thanks for your concern

The sky is falling!!!! The sky is falling!!!

The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!!!

Those O-linemen you see dominating week in /week out for Pitt were mostly acquired by TD.

Good analysis. I would agree.

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1) Agreed, but more because he didn't have the NAD to do something about Gilbride and his run&shoot offensive offense. Probably set back more like 2 years. 2) Bledsoe was a very good move AT THE TIME. The other option would have been Jeff Blake, yipee!!! 3) No longer overweight, no longer out of shape, he's at the weight the strength and conditioning coaches want him at. Agreed he hasn't been spectacular but comparing him to BM, who is swiss cheese against speed rushers, has given up more sacks, and is equally maligned by Vikes fans is not a particularly great arguement. 4) Agreed Denney is not starting material, but is quite serviceable in situations and is not your Erik Flowers "bust" type. 5) Posey is unspectacualr, but really didn't cost much at all. No point made here.... 6 - (some good things)) Kept Moulds over Wiley. Jennings and Henry and Clements all good value picks. Brain Moorman. Mcgee. The risk he took on McGahee. Stealing a #1 for Price. Evans. Losman (we'll see). Takeo, Fletcher, Milloy. Schoebel (don't forget his outing vs. the Best tackle in football). Sam Adams. Kelsay looking good....

I think Drew has played quite well in 5 games this year, but Sunday night I felt there was no excuse for his poor play. Sure he had pressure at times, but nothing that compares to the type of pressure he was seeing against Oakland earlier this year, and all of last year. Drew pressed on Sunday and was inaccurate because of it. He also threw a pass right to Troy Brown which was extremely embarassing (I'm sure for him too). I really can't defend his play the other night, but I still think he'll play well at home (for what it's worth)...

Lol Thanks for playing. There's a nice parting gift awaiting you in the lobby....

Shhhhh AKC, they might run you off a cliff as a witch or something if you don't agree that the entire team and staff sucks because of one game's performance. . Although I do think Brady is a little better than you credit him for (but that's another story)...

BTW, for our daily double, does anybody remember who started the Lynch Mob Mentality in Buffalo?????

Peter, don't worry too much about Bills fans. For every Lynch Mobber here on TSW, I know equally as many fans that are level headed, support the team, and don't actually think every comment from OBD is some slanted spin. Many of those fans refuse to post here or are simply not the message board types, but you will find them sitting at the Ralph on most sundays.

As few wins as they were, there is really no way to "smoke and mirror" physically dominating an opponent , possessing the ball for @ 60% of the time and running out the clock on the ground.

I believe your memories of the old 2-14 back to back years have, let's just say, fogged a little. We almost NEVER showed up or even resembled an NFL football team then. This year the team has "showed up" and been competetive in all but 2 games. Still unacceptable, yes, but not nearly a parallel to the mid eighties.

Darin, I must also commend your voice of reason in this thread. some very good points you bring up. I also like the fact that most of your points aren't made up of: ______ sucks, or _______ is a fool, just because!

I think the max protect approach is still a good idea for a young qb getting his feet wet. Give him one or two reads down field and a possible outlet route underneath with a back and you give him a good chance to succeed. The mobility should allow for a rolling pocket to mask some inefficiencies of the O-line. Of course a steady dose of running plays doesn't hurt either. It really depends on the personnell you keep, and right now we are better with 2 WR's on the field than 3 or 4, so we might as well utilize an extra TE or keep the FB in.