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We should find out soon. That'd be crazy, I always liked Ziggy since a rookie. He has that freakish African build. And was overall very productive in Detroit. Why not ? Kick Shaq inside permanently. Have Lorax and Murphy spell Ziggy and Hughes? Sick rotation.

Buffalo has legit leaders that are heavily respected by their teammates. Lorax. Shady . Frank Gore. Hyde/Poyer/Tre going into year 3 together. Dimarco. Hughes Besides Tre , we're not relying on any young guys besides Tre and Edmunds to be leaders. No divas , no outlandish personalities , no crazy media distractions. Who does Cle have that resembles this type of leadership besides Baker. Beckham was not liked in that locker room. He dissed his QB . Was a media ***** and nowhere near a leader or respected as a man.

They expect a rookie HC and two new coordinators to control these personalities? Alot of turnover,no culture,no process , JUST A COLLECTION OF TALENT.Beane and McDermott built a TEAM. I can just see this blowing up, all the media attention , a rookie regime , this team hasn't had a winning season in years . I could totally see them implode. This isn't the NBA

Wow. That's vvery impressive. Murphy had 13 returns and led the team with 24.9 yards per . No player had over 10 yards per punt! As a team, we had ZERO punt/kickoff returns! This is a helluva mood to get a guy that consistently produces and he instantly improves both units. Kick/punt TD or inside the red zone are potentially game and momentum changing plays. If you can get 5+ for the season , that could have a huge impact on your final record

I think McDermott and this defense overwhelm him , kinda like we have with Tannehil basically his whole career

Ahh. Ya I just totally read that wrong the first time , after that I totally see what you meant. Hopefully Josh Allen will continue to make him his female dog

Kiko was a former Bill.

I was really high on Ray Ray coming out as a gadget, do it all type player but he never . Down the stretch McKenzie totally took over his role . Hopefully he puts in some work and proves his worth but salute to Beane for adding 2 quality vets at WR , question mark in Duke Williams and potential rookie(s). Totally revamped this WR corps. I think Foster and Brown outside and Cole in the slot is the 1st string right now. Zay , McKenzie , Ray Ray , Duke , Roberts , Rookie? , Not too shabby depth. PS. - I'm very very very high on Foster. 6'2 with blazing game speed and reliable hands . As an UDFA rookie he could only get better too. I love his upside. Feel he could be a legit #1.

Kiko F'n Alonso.

This has to be worse than the Bills opening day WR roster. Wow.

He's trying to build what Beane has built in Buffalo. All bussiness , everybody is 1/11 and instill that culture . OBJ has been a locker room problem for the Giants . I feel his hands were tied but I don't understand the extension if they were planning this.

Not sure it's even a necessary move after our additions to the ol but he'd be an instant high end starter at RT but I really like the guy from Wash even though he's 33. Schrader can be the long term solution .

Trey Flowers had 7.5 sacks but like Hughes , had a ridiculous amount of pressures . Hughes lead the league in QB pressures and was rated a top 5 DE according to PFF. I just hope he'll re sign for a decent price next year

Jets literally still have zero pass rush and a terrible ol , according to their fans. They should get better with Bell/Mosley but they have tons of holes , way more than But had entering FA . 30th ranked D , also lost 2/3 starting CB in Skrine and Claiborne, Jet Nation wants their GM gone . I do like their young wr Corp , Enuwa and Anderson.

I don't see any alarming holes on defense. I think Beane has set up this roster so we can go bpa in the first 2 rds. Yes we could use a DT but I think we could see Shaq there full time as well.

I wonder what Bell looks like minus the best ol in the game .

We'll see today I guess. Allen put on a show at his pro day , slinging that ball 70+ with ease and having Eisen and Co in awe , I doubt Jackson has as strong of an arm

Y'all came at me in the OBJ trade. I'm with Clowney all day though . We beat the Browns next year with our elite secondary

As I was saying.... ? Put some RESPECT on my name!!

Pardon me. One appearance. As many as Zay Jones . And had very little impact in post season. Man I'm good n love what we're building here. Some don't see it or understand it yet. But you will soon enough. we had a plan and executed it. Obj is already causing Cleveland a headache about his contract and being on Cle . I'm done - quote me please , OBJ will post pedestrian numbers in 2019 on the Browns . I will put my house on that. Mysterious injuries , ridiculous antics, super selfish. I'm so glad this guy isn't a Bill. I'm DONE

I'm going to gracefully bow out of this conversation and continue it in October when the Browns aren't living up to the ridiculous expectations the fans n media will paint. The guy has never even been to the playoffs , he isn't WORTH the negative impact he will have on the locker room. He's already demanding to have his contact redone. I live in Giant/Jet land with basically all my friends fans of either. He is perceived as a nutcase , selfish and has very negative impact towards the process of building a winning culture. There's a reason Gettleman and Schurmer gladly took that deal . They understand that this primadonna , very talented WR will not benefit this team to long term success... There's a reason every Giant fan I spoke to is thrilled right now.. keep listening to ESPN though ! They bailed on AB for dirt cheap draft capital and we don't know the details on obj. My guess is due diligence. If he could front load a contract n get out without a huge cap hit , why not inquire? He did nothing though and never was close

AB has a few with Ben ,a great QB ,OL,and RB and coach plus a Culture! Steelers will still be the Steelers without AB and Bell because their culture from Tomlin and the F.O Oh and Obj has Zero. ?

True but without that Culture winning is rare. Look at NE , Sea when they were winning , SF , even Pitt to an extent. All inputed their culture and winning followed. A collection of talent rarely Trump's a TEAM

Lol. That's why both teams took enormous cap hits to get rid of them. If you never played the game at a high level that's fine , but you might not understand how important that locker room culture is. It's absolutely necessary for winning . How many playoff wins does AB and OBJ have? Exactly

Have you played the game ? Even if not , if we made that OBJ trade , it goes against everything coach has preached for 3 years. Culture, process,hard work. The message that would send to the WHOLE TEAM would be negative imo. It would have a negative reaction to what I perceive as a Bills team that is on the up n up. It's deeper than the numbers and talent. He doesn't fit our team, our process, our culture . He wouldn't equate to more wins for sure imo. I've been hearing whispers in North Jersey since 2017 about OBJ. How many playoff appearances does this "top 5" player have?!? Exactly