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Yeah, Kelly could stand in there and take a hit in order to make a play, no doubt. Fearless as they come. But more often than not, he had a pocket to step up into as Hull and Co. weren’t in the habit of getting pushed back and letting the pocket collapse. We’ve seen that a few times out of our current group and I have little reason to think they’re going to improve so Daboll will have to scheme protections to compensate. Kelly was sacked 70 times his first two seasons combined. By contrast, Carr was sacked 76 times in his rookie year alone. Instinctual or not, that’s gotta get inside your head after a while. Carr was ruined as a result.

So you’re giving him the rest of this season? A season playing with little other than Shady as a viable offensive threat. Prepare to be disappointed or dissatisfied with your expectation of showing “enough.”

How long do you give Allen to “show it?”

True. But that’s an entirely different discussion.

Yep. Simple as that.

Time can mean more than just this season? Who knew?! That said, time will mean no more than two miserable series for half the idiots out there.

Of course Allen isn’t miraculously any more ready than he was last week, but that’s really not the point, is it? Are you familiar with the term, “ready or not?” Because that’s the situation when there is no other QB to turn to that is any MORE ready. Idiots or not, the coaching staff has no other option. I haven’t heard any of them proclaim Allen is “any more ready”, either. Like us, they see the situation for what it is: dire.

OK, you lost me.

Somehow I just don't think that having Reilly around would have mitigated one iota of the fan base anger displayed after Sunday's debacle in Baltimore.

Good question and that’s why Daboll makes big bucks. I’d like to see two TEs in the lineup most of the time, Clay and Croom, who can both flex and create matchup problems. I’d at least look at it for a series or two, anyway. But yeah, we are lacking in talent at WR, so the pickins are slim for sure.

Oh, he is gonna get his ass handed to him and sometimes look as bad as Peterman doing so, but as far as debuts go, he gets a good grade. As I said, his most impressive feat didn’t involve any play at all; it was coming back strong immediately after screwing the pooch so spectacularly on a national stage on his very first play as a pro.

It’s one thing for Daboll to give him easy and well defined reads, quite another for opposing DCs, which is what it comes down to play after play. I’ve never been a fan of “simplifying” the offense. If your QB is smart and has an aptitude for the game, (and I believe Allen does), then go ahead and game plan for your opponent with the full playbook at your disposal to do so. It would be a shame if Daboll sees matchups he’d like to try to exploit and has certain schemes in his book to employ to do that only to have him eliminate those possibilities in order to dumb it down because he thinks his QB can’t handle it. That said, I agree that he should tailor the plan to what Allen does well. That doesn’t mean dumbing it down, though.

Yes, it is. But when a QB is weak minded, it has devastating results for the other 51. And EVERYBODY else knows it. Peterman looked scared crapless yesterday. How can he command a huddle like that? He can't.

I don't know about his mental toughness. He looked like he would rather have been anywhere else yesterday on that sideline. I wondered how he was commanding the huddle carrying himself that way.

Yeah, well, he lied.

I get your point, but just because Darnold has a better supporting cast is no reason to diminish his performance. But I'm most impressed with how he rebounded after embarrassing himself on the opening play. Mental toughness is a key component to QB play.

As good as Darnold and his supporting cast have looked, I'm far more concerned about the Jets defense. They were good last year and have only gotten better it seems. Fast, tough, and relentless from snap to whistle, play after play after play. We better be ready to strap it when we play them.

Well, Allen may very well not be as good, especially early on. He's a far less experienced QB, after all, and has a lesser supporting cast to boot. That's a very real possibility but certainly not something to fear. I like Allen's trajectory none the less. He's smart and level headed; two of the most desirable traits a QB needs, imo.

The jealousy in this thread is strong. But why? We have our own young QB to rally around. Are we that insecure that we have to disparage a fine debut performance by another rookie QB? Are we arguing that it's not a "fine" debut performance? If that's the case, people don't know as much as they think they do.

I appreciate the concern, but I don't see how you're gonna convince 31 other teams not to rush Allen as rushing the QB is a time honored defensive tactic. Maybe we can convince teams to count 3 Mississippi before rushing Allen.

Go pound sand. I don't need to convince myself Beane didn't screw up about something in order to justify his decisions or not.

Yeah, well that's part and parcel to a QB looking good, isn't it. I've never seen a QB look good all by himself.

More like the Colts didn't have the balls to pick at 12 instead of at 6.

I think the comparisons to Favre in that regard are apt.

Great answer by the Jets.