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Agreed that OT is our best hope to push the WR talent down, along with WR depth. Best case scenario would be to land Mitchell or Legette at 28.

You think Mitchell falls to 28?

Agreed. He was my pre combine crush but his frame really turned me off. Shorter. Lighter. Weaker. Dude fell over himself a couple times. WRs weighing 176 lbs shouldn’t be falling over themselves. Just looked so weak. I like his game tape though and I think he can be a weapon regardless of his 40. He’s the only guy that really moved down a lot in my rankings after the combine. I’d rather draft Ladd as an X even though he’s best in the slot. Pearsall is my biggest riser, but I hadn’t watched very much of him prior to the combine. I think he’s legit I think I’m currently: Thomas JR Mitchell leggette mcconkey Worthy Polk Pearsall Franklin

Do you think 15 sacks is his only goal here? That line of thinking implies that15 sacks is the only incentive. It’s not. There are several incentives. Each sack is that much closer to getting him millions more. He’ll be playing with 💯+ effort as long as his knee isn’t still bothering him. I have no doubt. I don’t think he’d be trying harder if he had that money guaranteed, especially if he didn’t have confidence in his knee.

So he took less, and now has the ability to earn more…..which also happens to benefit the Bills. Imagine that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Blasting out of the gate was last season. 2024 season, he’ll be 21 months removed from surgery. That’s not out of the gate anymore. I doubt he’ll ever be the player that he was, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a very good player. I haven’t read much of this thread, have the incentives been announced? I’ve yet to see the incentives. We have one guy here saying that the incentives will be easy to achieve or he’d never agree to them. You’re saying that he needs 15 sacks to make his money back. If his knee feels good, I don’t see Von giving any less effort. If he’s knee is shot, none of this matters, effort or no effort, he’s useless.

You’re the one that said “The only way Von would agree to this is if he's essentially guaranteed that it won't cost him anything that he was already owed.” I agree with you that the idea isn’t silly, but that’s not what you’re saying with the bolded. With your bolded statement you’re implying that the incentives will be simple and that he will be making 17-18M as long as he plays a few games…..that’s the “only way”. That’s just not a true statement. Again….i agree that your scenario isn’t silly. It’s just not unheard of for players to take less money to help the team. It doesn’t happen more often than not……but those that do are often already ridiculously filthy rich and extremely motivated to win a/another SB

So you saying that he’s basically guaranteed to get paid the 18Mish he was originally slated for even if he only plays a handful of games?

He will play harder so he can earn the incentives…..which could allow him to earn more of that money that he came for. Do you expect him to play with less effort?

He was coming off a tremendous playoff run with the Rams and looking like an all pro. He won a SB and played a big part in them winning it. Injury due to age was the only worry imo. If he hadn’t gotten hurt, the price tag wouldn’t be bad at all considering the players ability and work ethic. You can’t predict an acl tear. Was it a gamble? Definitely. Did he way overpay? I don’t think so. It’s a lot easier to say that after his injury. We needed a stud pass rusher….and most here wanted Chandler Jones to be that guy.

We have 2 quality starters outside, an all pro nickel back and a quality backup outside. Why would we want to use our limited cap space on a CB when we have massive holes at WR, DT, DE and S? Makes ZERO sense

Wake up!!! You must’ve been sleebing!

More than I wanted to pay him, but figured this would happen. Was hoping it would be for 3-4M a year tho

💯 always

Why Boyd? I see his name come up often but he’s a slot. I don’t see him as a fit in the least.

Farewell Jordan Poyer. One of my favorite Bills of all time. I appreciated your hard work, determination to become the best and your love for our fan base You’ll be missed and considered Mafia for life

Keon Coleman? No thanks, maybe rd 2-3

all to save 1.4M and receive a 5th rd pick for a backup

Interesting. Incoming Jackson Powers-Johnson!! 🤣

Well, it happened. no restructure. No paycut. He was cut and saved 4.66M, which was the only move to make involving Hines. An ultra speed back coming off what was said to be a possible career threatening injury. He’ll be back for close to the minimum and might make the team. Cutting him and was necessary. Glad that Beane didn’t make him any ridiculous promises as was speculated.

Yeah I hear ya- it’ll help his production and the team when he can make plays like that….but it may also lead to injury. I’m not sure that physical style will translate very well to the nfl unless he can add substantial weight/strength

That’s the biggest problem I have with him tbh

Solid comp. I thought flowers was slightly better but I’m pulling hairs there. While Worthy isn’t ideal for me as I’m just not a fan of 165lb ball carriers, he’s electric and I’d look forward to him playing with 17.

Love Tip Reiman in rd 7. That would make me very happy. if we took Blake Corum in rd 3 I’d puke 💯

I think it’s funny how the combine has had such a negative effect on how this board views Troy Franklin. prior to the draft, 90% of the board had Franklin as a top 5 WR in this class. Now he’s WR8-10. Barely anyone wanted Worthy over Franklin. Now, almost everyone does. Same with Mitchell. it was a poor combine for the kid, no doubt. But I think people are putting to much emphasis on the underwear Olympics rather than tape. Prior to the combine, I wanted Franklin, Mitchell or Legette. Those are still the guys I want most. Never thought thomas would make it out of the top 20.