TheBrownBear

We essentially ended Duck Hodges' professional football career that night.

I like Shavers and have beaten the drum for him since his signing, but some of the fanbase (especially on social media) is fast approaching drought-era levels of hopium with this kid. I see a good special teams guy and a potentially solid number 4/5 type. Outside of this week it's not as if he's getting consistently open and he's nothing special with the ball in his hands. He looks like a 35 catch, 500 yard type, but maybe I'm wrong and he surprises.

Shavers more reminds me of other big bodied ST journeyman types like Andre Holmes or Mack Hollins.

I honestly feel no better or worse facing Mills. If we play undisciplined like we did against Pats, Falcons and Phins, we will lose - hell, maybe even get blown out.

Lol. Don't think he belongs on the WOF yet, but he's showed some nice things when given an opportunity. I noticed he ran a slick little route against Miami last week too on the end zone interception. It was just a bad ball by Allen.

I wonder if any of the veteran receivers have tried to take him in under their wings? Seems like an immature, disorganized mess right now in need of a stern mentor type that can keep him in line. Kind of a bummer if we don't have anyone in his position group keeping an eye on him.

I'm with you. Clearly, he's on everyone's sh*tlist - coaches, players, fans - at the moment, but an injury or two and we will end up desperately needing something from him. I don't have much faith right now, but I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the best until we are able to move him in the offseason.

Prescient of him to pick 0 as his number. Or maybe was trying to tell us.

If true, what an enormous whiff by Beane. Basically set the offense back a year.

Looks like a high character guy.

Clearly, quite the opposite. He hasn't been paying for TBD TSW+ service. My threads are never deleted (but no one responds to them either).

The remaining schedule does not give me the warm and fuzzies. Maybe I'm insane, but I can see 9-8 as a real possibility. I'm willing to pencil in the Browns and Jets as wins (should I even do that after yesterday???), but beyond that I can see the rest of those games going either way. Does 9-8 get us into the playoffs?

The offense was a dud in the playoff games against the Ravens (defense won that) and the first Chiefs playoff loss. He was at the helm for the Pats/Chiefs combo in 2021, sure, but we had some good offensive playoff performances under Brady too. Our current sense of desperation is sure bringing out the rose colored glasses. Seems we've completely forgotten beauties like this: https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401326456/bills-jaguars.

I mean, we had a prime Diggs, Beasley, Brown, Emanual Sanders, a productive young Gabe Davis paired with an emergent Josh Allen. He wouldn't have nearly the same type of toys today.

Pats have the better coach and roster. We have the better QB for now. Feels a bit like watching the '94 Bills right now.

First off, the roster just isn't good enough in many areas, which is why you're seeing us get our teeth kicked in by mediocre teams. As for Josh, he isn't playing well. Part of me wonders whether Brady and McDermott's hyperfocus on limiting turnovers has pushed Josh from cautiously aggressive (last season) over into complete fear and indecisiveness this season. In the second half when desperation mode took over, the Bills racked up nearly 300 yards of offense. So they are capable of throwing the ball and moving it downfield when the shackles are off. I know the receivers suck too, but they sucked last year and we were mostly able to produce a consistent offense.

The offense is fine when we aren't turning the ball over. Josh needs to get rid of it quicker and we can't turn the ball over. (Don't get me wrong - I want better receivers too)

Moulds was a freak. Unless Coleman goes the Daryl Boston route, I'm not seeing it. Moulds is a bigger AJ Brown

@Draconator Obviously, all of us here at TBD are grateful for your friend's phone call! Happy to hear you're healthy and thriving. I was at a similar point 20 years ago. Had made up my mind to jump in front of a subway car during a mental health crisis in grad school. Luckily, a fellow classmate saw me at the edge of the platform with a glazed stare, grabbed my shoulder and asked me if I was okay as I hadn't been in class for a couple of weeks. I shrugged him off with an excuse, but it was enough of a speed bump to get me to reconsider it. Went home that night and shared my inner turmoil with my wife. Began counseling/treatment the next day and, while it hasn't always been easy, I haven't been back to that darkest of places since.

The guy is a dawg. Natural leader. Really hope he makes a full recovery and can give us something next year.

That's right. I met three of my ex-wives that way.

A lot of hot takes in this thread. I seem to recall Burrow going through our D like a hot knife through butter. Guy is damn good and we'd all be fearing the Bengals if he was healthy. Having said that, can you imagine Josh with Chase and Higgins? He could throw for 5500 yards.

The Colts saw their likely playoff opponents and knew that they absolutely needed someone that could lockdown Keon Coleman.

Can't believe we aren't even going to try and bolster the defense. We are another injury away from disaster on the front seven.

Probably Wilson and Hall to the Chiefs. Ha.