Bleeding Bills Blue

If you plan to release milton then he's really not... worth anything?

The team who got a 5th round pick for a player they weren't planning to keep.

Well... it's the preseason so... likely nothing happens Much like week 18 games against a teams entire roster of backups. I'm not sure how much value you get there. Peterman carved people up in the preseason when the other team doesn't blitz, and end of roster guys are playing the whole game. If that defense Milton faced suited up for the bills for 17 games, they would have been by far the worst unit in the league. None of the tools that existed before are any different than they were a year ago when they drafted him in the 6th (pick 193). He's already 25 (older than trey lance), and the between the ears processing and stuff is where all the question marks were when he came out. Nothing that happened last season or in any preseason changes that. From NE's perspective - they likely floated him in trade talks and took the best or only offer. Signing dobbs to me meant they would either trade him or try and waive him to the PS. Nobody is trying to carry 3 QBs for an entire season as players just get hurt too much to lose that roster flexibility. Ch NE Trades: 2025 - Pick 217 (Chart value of 4.2) 2024 - Pick 193 (Chart value of 13.8) Dallas Trades: 2025 - Pick 171 (Chart value of 23)

They were 4-13 last year, and while they added in free agency and have a new coaching staff - they were not close in many of those games. They were outscored by 128, 3rd fewest points scored in the league ahead of Cleveland and NYG. Washington did the 1 year turnaround, but a lot broke right for them and they made a ton of moves to accrue picks, space, and players. The 3 uncommon opponents of - NYG, LVR, Tenn vs. buffalos Chiefs, Texans, Eagles is an advantage for them for sure. But Buffalo's away schedule is easier, and Buffalo is a really good home team. Buffalo away games of Pitt, Atlanta, Carolina, Cleveland, Houston NE Away games of Tenn, Cinci, TB, NO, and Baltimore

I mean Dalton's last "good" season was what, 2017? I feel like trubisky put up better numbers in Chicago than anything Dalton has done in the last 5 years. He did really suck in pittsburgh, but so did everyone else that played on those bad steeler offenses - to be clear i think Mitch sucked the most 🙂. Pickett, Rudolph, Trubisky, Wilson, Fields - doesn't really matter when they can't block, suck at running, and have one of the worst playcallers in the league. I like vet backups personally. They watch (and have watched) a lot of film, and backup QBs are more and more getting involved in coaching. Help get the starter ready to go.

Maybe they look at him after the draft - Jackson's deal only guarantee's him 500K, so he's far from a confirmed piece and I'd be lying if i said i watched him play at all in Carolina. I assume they'll draft someone early to in all likelihood start across from Benford. Primary boundary depth right now would be Jackson, but if they wanted to bring in Douglas to compete for the same spot I'd be open to it. Douglas is turning 31 this year vs. Jackson who is turning 29. Jackson also... really sucked in 2023 and was one of the main reasons they traded for Douglas to begin with. This would come down to cap space, and whether Douglas is OK with a substantial pay cut. I do think he's as capable of being the 3rd corner here as Jackson, and in many ways is probably still an upgrade. From a drafting corners perspective I'd like to see them get 2 - one early to ideally start on the boundary, and one later to potentially push for the spot currently occupied by Ingram and/or Lewis as depth behind Johnson with inside/out potential.

Or even more likely - he gets no playing time and is cut after camp in 26-27.

But does Maye get better with an inexperienced backup? I mean Milton's 25 and has started 22 games in 7 years...

I also think you get better game preparation with a seasoned backup QB. His measureables and arm talent don't really do a whole lot on the bench behind a 23 year old starting QB. If you keep Milton behind Dobbs it hurts roster flexibility to have 3 QBs, and he probably doesn't clear waivers to the PS. For dallas it gives them a cheap 3 year backup QB you can continue to develop behind your veteran starter. Good point... it didn't really work out for buffalo either so i could see why they didn't get as much.

Assuming the picks are in this draft - 2024 6th and 2025 7th for a 2025 5th. That doesn't seem like a bad trade.

I think that his value is as high as it will ever get.

Well we didn't win a super bowl with diggs, and he's not here anymore... so yes i would go back and switch. They probably would have re-signed JJ and he'd still be on the team, giving you among the best playmakers in the league. Bengals are probably asking for a lot in a trade, and that lot starts with picks in 2025. Maybe he moves during the draft if they lower the ask? Or he moves after for more premium picks in 2026?

I do think that they needed more from playmakers to get further. The goal of having one of these guys like a chase, or a kelce - in the biggest games of the year they tend to get it done. I know kelce didn't this past year, but I'd still say during their run he's one of the biggest reasons they are as successful as they have been. When you gotta have it - it's nice to have a guy like that. Going into this season? There's hope Keon can be that guy, and I think there's a hungry young player there ready to break out - but does he have physical limitations that prevent him from ever being one of those dudes? Shakir was paid as a #2 and is a slot WR with some crazy wiggle at times. Can he become one of those short yardage WR beasts in the vein of St. Brown, who is a true game changer in the big moments? Palmer is likely in the same spot in buffalo he was in LA, but he's now probably in a snap rotation with Samuel. I think he can be an upgrade over Hollins, especially against teams that spammed buffalo with tight man coverage. Samuel likely is who he is - gadget type with speed, who has the size to play inside and out in a pinch. Probably more of a matchup and gameplan specific player, but still a valuable swiss army knife, and an upgrade over harty and mckenzie from that perspective.

I feel like low trajectory knuckler is probably the best way at this point. Obviously going to be some more variance - some will go out of bounds or land short. But kicking out of the end zone seems to provide 0 value. harder to set up underneath for returners. if it lands in the landing zone it's a live ball. if it goes out of bounds - its a 5 yard net loss vs. an in air touchback. if it goes out of the end zone or is downed after hitting landing zone - its the 20.

And this season it felt like if you did kick short, more often than not it was starting right around the 30 so teams felt like touchbacks limited risk. Now you have more of an incentive to kick short and work on your coverage, as well as expectations that you will have more return opportunities. The penalty for kicking short or out of bounds is still worse than a direct kick touchback, but not so much that it doesn't make sense to kick closer to the sidelines to try and limit returns or have them bounce into the end zone for the 20 yard TB.

The big factor is that he hasn't really been paid yet - his original deal had paid him less than 3M over 3 years. He now gets some serious money a year earlier.

I think if you play in buffalo, for at the very least about half of your games including playoffs - you have to be able to run the ball, and pass the ball short. That really isn't up for debate. From a top offense standpoint: Passing will get you more yards per play, and more points. Buffalo passes more than they run, and that number is skewed even further when you factor in that allen did not run 100x on run calls. Buffalo does still run the ball a lot, and they use that to control time of possession. They also did a tremendous job limiting negative plays. Fewest sacks, and turnovers. 10th in offensive penalties, but Allen gives you a chance when given another down. Running the ball is how you close out games. Beef on beef, a couple first downs win. Buffalo was pretty consistent in holding leads because of this, and even scoring on these drives. It's also why i felt the Bengals cap strategy is so puzzling, because it's already shown to be a real team weakness.

Thats why they put the pads on though... your draft pedigree matters for maybe one season. He was injured a bunch last year, didn't play particularly well in his limited snaps either. But writing is on the wall now so he has to play better.

Titans pick at 1 and seem likely set there. Colts seem likely to roll with AR and if he's terrible give jones a shot. Other than that it's pittsburgh or bust. And if you're pittsburgh - if he's going to want to wait and do his darkness retreat, you may as well wait until the draft to see if you can get someone you like without having to trade up a lot. It's a weaker class at QB, but they pick at 21 and not a ton of teams that likely want to invest a 1st round pick in a QB. I'd say the rams could probably look to the future, but they're in the playoff mix added davante adams, and it doesn't feel like the right use of resources. Jets at 7 could be, but i think with a defensive coach they'll probably try and grab an impact defender. Giants and browns are potentially options. There's always a surprise though, and because the consensus #2 is deions kid, anything could happen.

This is true, i think some of that impact can be spread to coleman, knox, kincaid in addition to palmer. It's hard to determine... how good a blocker a WR is, but based on snap splits with a rookie and a 2nd year player (all 3 roughly the same), i'd imagine he was the best blocking WR on the chargers. After he landed hard in the jets game he played less than 40% of snaps the rest of the way. Like i think we all expected him to be healthy and ready for a snap increase in january and it actually went the other direction.

I don't think either player's at their peak from an elusiveness standpoint, which was a big part of both wilson and tyrod's games. Other than that they are very similar players. High low type reads, they don't throw people open, not rhythm passers, solid deep ball (wilsons is better). It's a boring safe QB who has enough athleticism to hurt you if you break contain, but if you're smart they'll probably sack themselves a couple times a game.

I think its kind of the going rate though. He's a better route runner and wide receiver than hollins, while hollins adds contributions on special teams. If he had broken out in LA he probably gets closer to 15-20M AAV.

I mean the Jets are weakest at QB, but they have a good defense. Dolphins will have a better offense than the patriots as they have better playmakers even if their offensive line isn't a strength, but their defense took a big step back last year and they can't really hang with playoff teams. The patriots are picking 4th overall, won 4 games total - Bengals week 1, Jets, bears, bills backups week 18. They were blown out 7 times. They were truly among the worst teams in the league. 31st in yards, 30th in scoring, 21st in turnovers, 29th on 3rd downs. Diggs, Maye development, and some offensive linemen don't fix everything. Josh McDaniels (who's never coached a top 10 offense without brady) isn't going to just fix a bad unit in one season. As for the defense - they were 22nd in the league and can't really stop the run. They added some players to help there, and will probably get a contributor in the first between either Hunter or Carter - but nothings just overnight fixing a young team like this. I don't see them finishing 2nd, and if they do i would assume NYJ and MIA had terrible seasons more than NE making a massive jump. You do get the last place schedule though - which gets you the giants, raiders, and titans as non-common opponents. Commanders season show that it CAN be done, and the easier schedule did seem to tilt things their way (giants did this in year 1 with daboll).

I think there's some truth to that, but all 3 played a similar number of snaps. It's hard to see how many run vs. pass snaps though, and they were a running team. Running teams use a lot of rotation, 2 TE's, a FB, multiple backs. I don't expect him to pop off here statistically, because we philosophically do the same thing with player rotations and running plays. But i do see him making some impact plays, and potentially being the 3rd option behind Shakir and Kinkaid (ideally). The group as it stands now (not including backs): Shakir - give this guy the ball, he makes plays Kincaid - rough 2nd year and a very big drop. Hopefully him and Allen can get on the same page because tight ends can be chain movers. Coleman - who i see making a jump and being the 3rd target in the passing offense. He's a little janky at times but when he's on, he's pretty solid. Active blocker too which just keeps you on the field. Palmer - Man beater type for high low crossers. Chiefs killer :-). Maybe he can be like a bateman though and step up. Samuel - Forgotten injury guy but he's a speedy yac guy and can be a man beater against certain teams. Knox - Sunk cost financially, but the guy scores touchdowns and blocks well which again gets you snaps.

I'd have to look at the exact ramifications... but I'd have to say it limited things the bills were able to do during the season. It created a hole that they were only realistically able to fill with cooper from a salary perspective.