Bleeding Bills Blue

Whats with grudens strange obsession with bills offensive players? Shouldn't you want the defensive ones from the last 5 years? Incognito? Sure... but Peterman, O'leary, jones? Why? Everyone was criticizing him for icing his kicker - and its like.. you have to do that. And its not his fault herbert took a terrible sack there.

Yeah, i felt like Pitt was a game you'd think he'd have done more. Getting behind the backers in a zone blitz look. I'm not sure if they just don't have that trust there yet - but it seems like daboll has him heading out to the boundaries more often.

Interesting that the comparison is kittle there at the end (simply as an athletic upside player comparison, with little production). And Kittle didn't have Metcalf and AJ brown at WR either.

Yeah - a lot of these guys treat it like basketball. The first down signals, the incompletion signals, all the jawing after plays. I liked the quick high five and line back up - communicate with teammates etc. But they're pro's and I sell software so they're probably on to something...

I've always been like that too. I played catcher growing up, and then played some first base later on and you just get into the habit of chatting. In football even playing corner I never really talked much though. I always found i got called for less penalties by being less vocal. Lots of guys like to get into the other guys head by talking, but i'd usually be more of the "nice catch, good play" kinda guy.

Right. Kittle is a really solid blocker so for their PA/run game he's super valuable. Also a load to tackle. Kelce is insanely good, just such a matchup nightmare in the RZ and so much faster than he looks. Waller's also a freak athlete. Also - none of those guys were drafted in the first round.

I doubt he'll ever be Kelce or Kittle... and thats OK. I'm not of the opinion that a TE is turning this offense from top 10 to top 3. To get there would mean improvements on the line IMO. They've played better with feliciano in, but the run blocking has been a problem all year and it makes the team more one dimensional. They also need to clean up fumbles as a whole - Knox has a big 2. But 15 total? Plus 9 int's? That's a lot of possessions lost. I'd say with the question marks around Sweeney, and with Kroft likely gone TE should be a mid round draft priority. Maybe 1 of the 2 5ths.

Right - Same goes for butler, and probably Diggs and addison too. Move base salary out of 2021 into a year with a likely larger cap. The chance of getting more term is very low out there currently.

Someone made a point elsewhere - but if the cap hits 175 - a lot of those guys will restructure. Why? Because there is a capped amount of cap space remaining and several of these guys are north of 30. You can take john browns 9m hit, and position most of the base salary into bonuses in 2022, and guarantee another base salary in 2022. So 1 year 9M cap hit becomes like 3.7 on year 1 and like a guaranteed 6-8M in 2022. 1 year 9M becomes 2yr 12M with a 3M cap hit in 2021. Normally the player can say "i'll hit the market" but this market has fewer teams spending, and fewer jobs available. If you lose the musical chairs game your 2 years fully guaranteed 12 could be 1 year 2 million. The players have a ton of risk in free agency this year. Same goes for the dlinemen. Addison and butler are likely to get less money than they did a year ago in a lower cap market. If Buffalo needs space on the butler deal, he extends a 3rd year and gets a 2020 market rate add-on to 2022.

I like going on twitter for news and commentary. I don't like going on there for people who are essentially baiting bills fans into confrontation for clicks. It's annoying, and bills fans are getting a reputation as being insufferable.

Don't even bother. Easier to ignore. I never understood how players could compartmentalize like that but you really do have to completely ignore stuff. If you're tremaine edmunds and you're on twitter after a game you're going to be wondering why everyone hates you or wants you to die.

I've been just ignoring people on twitter. I don't mind criticism of my team - but these guys aren't really football guys. I can't stand the hot take guys with basic numbers as the only thing backing them up. OOO his QB rating was 82 - he must be bad! With 0 context.

I ignored him. Same with Foxworth. Team is relevant so you're going to get this kinda crap, easier to just ignore it.

IMO there's usually a bunch of other evidence. Matchup plays into a bit, as well as recent performance, injuries, and what you've put on film. A bad gameplan is as likely to tank you as players not being "up". I think momentum in game can exist - moreso when there are fans in the stands. I think when a team like the jets finishes 7-9 in 2019, and ESPN says they can carry that momentum over to 2020. That's total bull to me. Roster turnover is one thing, but its also like 8 months before they play. Nothing carries over 8 months in sports. Not our best matchup either. Run/PA/Bootlegs. Its a lot to put on the LBs. They've been better lately, and its nice to have milano back. On the other side, they're banged up all over so you want to say with good execution buffalo should be able to hurt them.

Probably because he won't go to the jets...

It's likely a fumblerooski either way. The problem with kickoffs is every player is 70 yards down field running towards the returner. If you get the offense out there you can match personnel, and they have to come up with something. You can have multiple DB's out there at different levels, and may have a strategy to screw up their plan.

On 3rd and 11, house is coming - past bills teams totally run there just to keep the clock moving. Buffalo just had the trickiest little release route that worked to perfection.

It's rare that a single player elevates a football franchise. Stafford was picked #1 and they are 0-3 in the playoffs over his 12 seasons. Jared Goff and Wentz helped their teams get to super bowls, but neither was a tank worthy player. Burrow seems like he'll be a good/great player, but he didn't necessarily flip and put that team over the hump. Mahomes went 10. Watson went 12. Allen 7. Wilson was in the 3rd. I disagree on a draft lottery. If you go 0-16, its so difficult to flip that into 13-3. Probably takes 2 or 3 seasons to even sniff playoffs. By that point your qb just became incredibly expensive, and now you're forced to somewhat dismantle what you built. Not to mention, QBs with unparalleled ability flame out. In hockey, or basketball - if you have unparalleled ability, you control the puck/ball. You can succeed all on your own. A qb needs weapons, an offensive line, and a coach to make it all come together.

That's what everyone said about greg roman last year. Same with Eric Bienemy. Then McCarthy got a job... Rivera got a job... Stefanski was coordinator for 1 year and was hired. They pulled Rhule out of college like kingsbury the year before. Is this the year for a meyer or riley? Who knows?

Roman to the jets is interesting to me. He's built some pretty good offenses that are very QB friendly, and i think Lawrence would thrive in that type of situation. The question is if they can put together a group of 5 linemen to get the run game moving in the right direction, as well as find a running back who can help there - maybe a carson or some combination including ingram after he's cut. I think they'd probably give Mike Shula a look. Makes a lot of sense to me - carolina connection with beane/mcd, worked with strong armed cam newton before, has worked with a lot of different QBs in his career.

Money saving. His contract runs out this year, so they don't even need to fire him. Dumped players who needed big money extensions too.

Norv Turner's seasons with Dallas - ok you had insane talent. And even his best years with SD it was tomlinson and rivers. But man, that guy had a Brad Johnson offense as #2 in the league.

Correct, it was holding.

No you're right - its the ACC one at 430. Either way - why is the NFL playing on saturday? Notre Dames a huge draw too, possibly the worst "nationally" televised game.

Why is this game on saturday during the SEC championship?