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How much are we paying KW to come in and help coach Oliver up?

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Oh, he off the charts.

I like him @ 9 better than I do Oliver.

Sounds like a total disaster... It'd be the same as 9 months notice that Beane was quitting.

Then why did I say This: The key word there is need. Again, if I thought Josh Oliver, or Drew Sample were anything close to Hockenson, I'd concede... -They're not. This kid will be a tremendous help to Allen, and impact the outcome of games if used correctly. 1) Because you're not going to find a better one later... Irv Smith is the closest you'll get, and I'm not buying him as a pure TE... Bringing up OJ Howard, a kid who hasn't been able to work with a decent QB or OC since he got in the league doesn't help your argument at all. -Neither does the breaking news that it sometimes takes players a year or two to develop within a system... I'm perfectly OK with that time frame. -Lets get him in here and get started.

If anything, more targets is an even bigger selling point. You want the kid who can handle 80-100 targets, IMO. Look at what the league's top TE's cranking out: Travis Kelce 2018 150 targets Zach Ertz 2018 156 targets George Kittle 2018 136 targets Rob Grokowski 2017 105 targets You bet your @ss it translates to the pro's... If you don't have great wideout, or a RB who's prolific in the passing game like the Saints, Rams, and Patriots do, a reliable TE is the next best bet. I get your point about Value... I truly wish we didn't need an excellent blocking/catching TE... I wish there'd be one as-good available in the 3rd-4th, but there isn't. Hockenson @ 9 starts helping this offense from day 1. What comp did Kelce play against at Cincinatti? What about George Kittle? He comes from the exact same system at Iowa, and he's not lagging in the least... As far a the LB competition goes, I'm sure Hock played a few Lorenzo Alexanders (UDFA), Matt Judons (5th round), and Danny Trevathans (6th round) as well...-We just don't know those kids names yet.

I wouldn't put it past them.

I wouldn't give a damn if they did... I saw some of those drops, and they were bad... Game-killers at times.... Can't have a butter-fingered TE. -Sorry.

Packers.

What could be more impactful than 3rd down conversions and TD's? -Especially to a team with a 30th -ranked offense last season... What could be of more help on the field to a young, big-armed QB? I think if we let the Jets, or the Cheats take Hockenson, we're going to regret it... And regret it for a looooong time.

Drops WAY too many balls to be taken seriously in the first. I like the kid, but late 2nd-Early third is where I'll leave him.

Hm. Maybe go back and watch some Iowa games... Because of Iowa's offensive style, Hock ended up doing may of the things he'll be asked to do in the pros. I don't think he's anything like Ebron at NC or Olsen at the U.... TBH, I've never seen a better route running TE at the college level... And a better run-blocking TE, you simply won't find. Hock is one of a kind... If you were talking about Drew Sample, or kahale Warring, I might agree, but Hock is in a completely different category... -Easy money at 9.

...And most are in denial about it.

Everyone's dad is weird. -Some moreso than others... Still, this guy sounds like a control freak... Doesn't seem to be handling Dwayne's pro transition well at all.

Wait... -Karlos?

Is it possible that they don't have any confidence in their ability to draft well?

I totally wasn't ready for it... Had to change the channel, I was so grossed -out... Now, I think Gendry wouldn't be such a terrible guy to date your daughter... -He's (mostly) even-tempered...-Has a trade he's pretty good at... Plenty worse son-in-law material out there...

NO to Benny Snell.

In fairness, his tenure was marked by times he said he wasn't privy to things that were going on? -Why was that?

That instance is probably the one pass I'll ever give Whaley...

Sansa is alive because of Baylish too, and look what happened to him... The North remembers... Beheading sir Roderik in the courtyard, and murdering the family of farmers could be too much to forgive... Theon is toast.

Tyree is just too big to really pattern his game off anyone currently playing. I know he's a huge Favre fan, but he's going to need to improve on his own strengths rather than patterning his game off anyone else's... Tyree makes a lot of NFL throws... Throws you simply can't make unless you know what you're doing... The right system is absolutely essential, but I think he wrestles the ball away from any shaky starter at QB.

There can be redemption in death. I don't think Yara will care as long as Theon doesn't die a coward.

I think Theon should stay the hell away from the north. -Especially Winterfell... I don't think he'll last a day if he goes back.