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It's not even debatable, IMO.

Marcus seems like a real stable individual.

Because he's old school and still lives under the disillusion that the game can be managed offensively.

Most definitely sarcasm. How in the hell could anyone say they can't praise Whaley for anything?

Some still complain because every question about him isn't answered in that same year.

"You know what Bruce would do if he found me messing with his shoe man? Bad things man."

Whaley has this team in a downward spiral. He's done next to nothing to bring viable NFL players to this team. We're one of the oldest teams and almost completely void of talent. He's definitely not worthy of praise from you. Let's blow this thing up and start over with a real GM.

It doesn't. I didn't respond to a Fontes and Rex comparison.

Winning is marrying a girl you love and can build a life with. Screwing the prom queen isn't an indication you've won.

Exactly - that's why the prudent thing to do is let Tyrod prove he's worth the money.

Oh of course I'd be interested but I can't imagine the Browns not taking that risk compared to the draft pick they'd get.

It's not. Spotrac doesn't help those that want to fit things into their narrative.

You confuse me again. Are the "stars aligned" or are you betting this blows up?

He's not a free agent

The bold confused me. Just admit it - you're excited to see Tyrod play and you should be. He had one hell of a year and he's worthy of our high expectations. We're afraid to go out on that limb because of all the crap we've been through - but Tyrod is worth it. He's not going to be a bum and flake out. He's good and it's just a matter of how good. Enjoy it - we have a good QB with potential. Let's let him play and have fun watching him grow. He doesn't have to be Joe Montana next year but he's our future.

Probably easier to tell by the hands for someone that knows him better.

I don't think anyone thinks Fitz is the answer. It's just a funny thread about whether it would be worth it to block the Jets. Of course it's not but not much else to talk about in July.

Of course - but I'll give credit where it's due. He wasn't just some running scared QB. He's a legit weapon that defenses will have problems with. I also know he did enough work over the middle that has me feeling he can. He played within the system and it didn't ask him to much - that's very typical for a rookie QB (I call him that). We are very fortunate to have him in terms of hope. I can't think of a better scenario than a rookie in terms of playing time with the combined benefit of NFL coaching/learning experience. This young man did some extraordinary things last year. We're a group of fans that have built a tolerance to disappointment and it's difficult to have any other feeling than to believe it when we see it. However because of that hardness we're also having trouble understanding what fantastic things he did to earn a little more belief from us than he gets.

Sad to see

Sad to see

I'd say he is too but when you consider cutting EJ means his salary counts equally against the cap - it doesn't make financial sense.

Go look at his game logs. He did it every week and we played some good defenses. Why didn't they figure it out? They saw it all last year. It's because he isn't easy to contain. Of course teams will game plan and look back on what he did to figure out what their going to attempt to do. Won't be easy - because he's a big problem to worry about.

What an amazing rookie season TT had

The media doesn't go easy on any athlete whether it's warranted or not. They've just gotten ridiculous and they aren't judged on being factual anymore.

I'm sorry but that's just stupid if you look at our draft position and the likelihood of that working out. I really knew what you were going to say - but wasn't sure if you would let everyone know how flawed you are in your thinking.